Don't mind Corbyn as PM as long as he has competent people around him.
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I get that my point is that May had issues with 'European Institutions' as home secretary and, I believe, she was therefore not an overly staunch fan of having any institutions outside of Parliament and UK law telling us what we can and can't do.
she's not even a fan of parliament having a say if her time as home sec and pm are anything to go on
Rare honesty among DM readers.
The concern is not the content but the upticks.
She's woeful. I want them to knife her for her time as home sec. She's miserable. Made my life when I was trying tyring to get citizenship hell.
All I am saying is that she is not as much of a remainer as people think.
Therein lies the problem.
If people think Brexit is bad just want until Corbyn gets in. Stuff like capital fight, active sabotage from the civil service and god knows what else will make what we are seeing now seem like child play. Still it's the only way I'm getting the chance of some decent housing.
Why not get rid of Corbyn and have a competent person as PM?
I don't know if it was the intent but what you wrote is actually crazy, that's not an issue with European institutions but an issue with International Law and foreign policy as a whole.
If she actually believes that then she isn't fit for politics.
I don't think he's less competent than the other labour labour colleagues and I agree with a lot of his policies. Although on a personal level, I would suffer if he gets into power.
Also don't like those that make it seem like you're not doing it right if you're not on the Corbyn train.
And those people keep a calculator handy.
I think the fiscal fears about a Corbyn government are somewhat exaggerated tbh. He's not going to do all the things he says.
What I most look forward to is the infrastructural spending the country needs and a government that gives a shit about our rail network.
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Was just a Diane Abbott joke.
Haha. Poor me. I actually like Abbott. By all accounts, she's a great MP. she should not be anywhere near government.
It's a bit harsh to say that anyone who criticises the ECHR isn't fit for politics. There is a lot of criticism aimed at it from numerous quarters. Many saying that at the very least it needs reforming.
The issue isn't the ECHR, it's the idea that you can interact with other sovereign nations without having to respect rules that governs said interactions.
Yeah looks iffy with those accent symbols. I have been largely leaving the DM thread alone tbf.
I have really strong memories of her being a eurosceptic back in the long distant day but I can't find any confirmation online. Maybe I imagined it, but I'm sure she used to be one of that group.
She'd join the Black Panthers if it meant keeping her job.
Christ. No wonder he and Trump admire each other. Seems like birds of a feather.Anyone seen Boris Johnsons '6 point plan to earn a better Brexit' ?
From The Daily Mail...
2 & 6 are my personal favourites. feckin clown.
Probably a dopey Russian troll instructed to post divisive tweets on UK media.
Anyone seen Boris Johnsons '6 point plan to earn a better Brexit' ?
From The Daily Mail...
2 & 6 are my personal favourites. feckin clown.
Mother of Christ.I don't know whether to laugh or be terrified, this is a guy who's transcended into one of the most powerful and influential politician's in the UK for feck sake.
Free movement of people means freedom of movement for workers between Norway and EU, and that Norway is a part of the Schengen Area.
I can't see how all this upheaval and having a 'Norway' agreement makes it worthwhile. The main issue is 'immigration' and if there is no realistic way of 'curtailing' this outside of a hard brexit, then we should just pack it all in.
In all honesty, I reckon the brexit process alone has already put off many Europeans from ever setting foot here.
The DM comments section has been entertaining recently. It’s fair to say a lot of the regulars are not too happy about, post-Dacre, the slight moderation in the editorial position towards the EU. It’s become like The Guardian apparently.
Have a listen to May in 2016 (much nicer hair too which I think is the most important take-away here btw
)https://www.theguardian.com/politic...s-what-theresa-may-really-thinks-about-brexit
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I believe Cameron was very critical of her back in 2016 privately for her fairly lackluster campaigning during the referendum. Not to mention she gleefully went all-in for a hard Brexit post-referendum when she could've been more measured. I don't think she's a full-on Rees Mogg/John Redwood type but she's hardly going to walk through Brussels draped in a European flag either.
Turkeys, Christmas etc..
WTF? She was clearly and openly remain. She wasn't blackmailed into voting remain (which she admits she did) she is on record as believing wholeheartedly it was the in the best interests of the country.
From my post above …
Have a listen to May in 2016 (much nicer hair too which I think is the most important take-away here btw
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...s-what-theresa-may-really-thinks-about-brexit
I think she was pro Single Market but there was one of the four freedoms that she doesn't like. Have a guess which one.
Same town had previously been a recipient of EU funds to regenerate its town centre too. You get what you vote for.
Baffling.
Says more about the poor education they probably received, the dominance of right-wing news outlets and the spread of misleading or false news through hearsay and social media.
Yep. One of the features of the Brexit result was that a lot of the places that voted leave were among those most likely to be negatively impacted by Brexit. That doesn't happen unless they've been seriously misled.
Jeremy Corbyn speech at CBI - extract:
First, we want a new comprehensive and permanent customs union with a British say in future trade deals that would ensure no hard border in Northern Ireland and avoid the need for the government’s half-baked backstop deal. Businesses and workers need certainty. The Tories’ sticking plaster plan for a temporary customs arrangement, with no clarity on how long it will last and no British say, can only prolong the uncertainty and put jobs and prosperity at risk.
Second, a sensible deal must guarantee a strong single market relationship. Talk of settling for a downgraded Canada-style arrangement is an option popular only on the extremes of the Tory Party. It would be a risk to our economy, jobs and investment in our schools, hospitals and vital public services.
Third, a deal that works for Britain must also guarantee that our country doesn’t fall behind the EU in workers’ rights or protections for consumers and the environment. Britain should be a world leader in rights and standards. We won’t let this Conservative Government use Brexit as an excuse for a race to the bottom in protections, to rip up our rights at work or to expose our children to chlorinated chicken by running down our product standards.
1. When does the application to rejoin the EU go in?
2. You accept the four freedoms?
3. How much are you going to pay for the privilege?
First, we want a new comprehensive and permanent customs union with a British say in future trade deals that would ensure no hard border in Northern Ireland and avoid the need for the government’s half-baked backstop deal. Businesses and workers need certainty. The Tories’ sticking plaster plan for a temporary customs arrangement, with no clarity on how long it will last and no British say, can only prolong the uncertainty and put jobs and prosperity at risk.
Second, a sensible deal must guarantee a strong single market relationship. Talk of settling for a downgraded Canada-style arrangement is an option popular only on the extremes of the Tory Party. It would be a risk to our economy, jobs and investment in our schools, hospitals and vital public services.
Third, a deal that works for Britain must also guarantee that our country doesn’t fall behind the EU in workers’ rights or protections for consumers and the environment. Britain should be a world leader in rights and standards. We won’t let this Conservative Government use Brexit as an excuse for a race to the bottom in protections, to rip up our rights at work or to expose our children to chlorinated chicken by running down our product standards.
1. When does the application to rejoin the EU go in?
2. You accept the four freedoms?
3. How much are you going to pay for the privilege?
How much of that came from uk payments?
Unrelated i guess by why are french people moaning about have petrol 20c cheaper, per litre, than NL for example?