And this is the main reason why EU members might not agree to an extension, there is still a pretty big uncertainty within the UK regarding what Brexit means and EU members will most likely choose stability over anything else.
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And this is the main reason why EU members might not agree to an extension, there is still a pretty big uncertainty within the UK regarding what Brexit means and EU members will most likely choose stability over anything else.
yes - If I were on the EU side of the negotiation Id probably think let them go - they can reapply in a few years when they are prepared to come in with no veto and taking the euro
As I say I dread to think what an uncooperative bunch of MEP's we would elect in the EU referendum if we did choose to stay but i suspect the EU wouldn't fancy working with them
I still think no deal on 29th March is most probable
Europe must be totally fed up with our incompetence by now and cant wait to see the back of us
Everyone has a veto though. It's treaty based and there's no obligation to join new treaties.
Agreed.
Regarding the EU elections in May, I believe candidates have to present their candidature in France between 21st April and 2nd May 2019. I presume similar dates would be applicable to other EU countries.
This alone does not leave much time to extend A50.
I was actually thinking about your last sentence. I don't think anyone has an issue with the UK or Brexit, but your main politicians are probably on a blacklist, they used the EU membership to gain/maintain power at a national level, then they triggered A50 without having an idea or an agreement about the type of withdrawal they wanted, now after two years some are thinking about cancelling it or extend the withdrawal period and they still don't have a clue about what Brexit means and what they want.
If EU members refuse to extend it or negotiate, it will be because there is no point wasting time with people that don't have a plan or even common sense. I don't think anyone will actually try to look tough on the UK but your politicians are making the all process pointless and probably fruitless too.
what would be the theoretical timetable for extending - I'm guessing its not a few phone calls and a group email - there would have to be legislation etc - whats a realistic time-frame - id guess not too long after they agree the deal this weekend?
They definitely won't extend A50 for some arbitrary further negotiation. It would only be for a referendum on remain.
No argument from me on the rest of it. We are lumbered with one of our worst ever generations of politicians, at a time when we needed some of the best.
Increasingly convinced May's deal will pass at a second attempt.
I really don't know. I guess that if there is a withdrawal agreement and the UK accept a no deal if Leave wins, then an extension would be easy and quick, probably less than a month. I assume that an extension will only happen if there is a definitive answer at the end, so the referendum needs to create a finality.
Oh god we could be sooooooo fecked.
Oh god we could be sooooooo fecked.
I think that she is just not good at communicating. Surely you are not planning to use the army for any sort of emergency relief related to Brexit?
It could all be bollocks but it's been reported before
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...military-police-leaked-document-a8529401.html
army-on-standby-to-handle-food-and-medicines-shortages-in-event-of-no-deal-brexit-11453093
Probably not but the very idea that it is being discussed shows the absurdity of Brexit. This is the sort of measure normally used in the aftermath of a natural disaster or war.
That's why I'm surprised, this should be the sign that Brexit isn't a good idea for the UK. It feels like someone calling the ambulance before attempting to cross the highway.
If you think the last two and half years have been insane in the UK, at least it will have prepared you for what happens in the next two and half years if the UK leaves with no agreement.
A Tory using NI to further their own political agenda. 130+ years of tradition and good breeding right there.
If they have any sense.
...Of course they'd probably let Britain keep Larne and Lurgan.
I doubt many people who start a business are thinking about what they'll be taxed if they eventually earn above 80,000. In fact that is such a far off and fantastical sum that the fact that they could earn 80,000 would be motivation enough. We had tax rates way higher than this in the post war years, do you think no businesses were started then?
Yeah, I'm gonna have to go with a hard no on that.
https://fullfact.org/economy/tax-avoidance-evasion-uk/
Any more "alternative facts"?
You belive HMRC? Especially one run by the Tories?
This makes my blood boil. If she’s blocking a criminal investigation for political gains she should be held up in front of our highest court and tried for obstruction of justice.
Words cannot describe how much I despise these odious creatures. They’re in their own fecking career bubble with zero concern for the nations interests.
You do know that's probably India at the moment?
If there are major blockages because of customs checks at borders and medicines are held up by that, then army/RAF personnel and army/RAF aviation vehicles would be the best way of moving them I would have thought
Good grief!
You tend to chop and change with France.
Apparently so: http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Documents/PCSTaxGap2014Full.pdf
Disclaimer: I haven't read it, will not read it and have no idea if it's even remotely convincing. It does display a big scary number on its front cover though.
As Spanner says we chop and change with France but India is right up both arses with a much higher growth rate. I personally believe in paying tax for public services, and I'm willing to pay more myself, not just say someone else should. The size of the economy is a crap metric though, GDP per capita would be better.
The army have stepped in for striking firefighters before. It’s what they’re there for in part.
If there is a second referendum it should be:
A) Remain a member of the European Union, lets pretend this nightmare didn't happen
B) I don't have a fecking clue. This is a parliamentary democracy do what you think is in my best interest like I fecking pay you for
C) Leave under the terms of the agreed deal, staying would be too embarrassing
D) Leave without a deal, I don't have a job anyway
A) Remain a member of the European Union, lets pretend this nightmare didn't happen
B) I don't have a fecking clue. This is a parliamentary democracy do what you think is in my best interest like I fecking pay you for
C) Leave under the terms of the agreed deal, staying would be too embarrassing
D) Leave without a deal, I don't have a job anyway
E)boue
What's that got to do with HMRC?
Who can blame politicians for not bothering with knowing things when the people vote on what they want to believe anyway. As long as you manage to leave before you have the actual responsibility to see it through and you don't suffer the political consequences beyond the few nerds who pay attention.
Just don't go against the Brexit hive mind.
Just don't go against the Brexit hive mind.
freedom of etcetera is the best freedom
Are we really claiming that the general public know more about the EU than Tory MPs?