Not a recommendable investment for the risk you take. You get less in the bank but you wont lose it. And any low risk investment will give you more surplus.
How is possible with the price of the fares that they get that low profit?
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Not a recommendable investment for the risk you take. You get less in the bank but you wont lose it. And any low risk investment will give you more surplus.
How is possible with the price of the fares that they get that low profit?
Because fairs are regulated.... As you can see from the breakdown it's taken up with leasing trains... Operating costs but mostly repairing and maintaing the network which as it's so old and was massively underinvestment in for decades is basically held together with string and crossed fingers
So is not entirely private? Is not the companies that sets the fairs?
Neither of those options will ever happen in the UK. You can either have an inefficiently run rail network or a privately run inefficient rail network. Take your pick.
Yeah I agree. I was using a hypothetical to demonstrate the logic as to why a less-efficient system could possibly be better, for the public, in some scenarios.
Not to suggest it would, or would not.
Probably not the thread for it but yes fairs are regulated... The large increase over recent years has been to fund infrastructure upgrades and maintenance... Largely because our network is old and in technical terms it's fecking shit
SOrry, you are right. Not the thread. Thanks for the explanations though
I am mostly at fault for derailing this thread, I think. Apologies.
"Just get on with it!"
I haven't followed the news for a few days and I'm not really clever enough to make sense of a lot of it anyway, so I'll ask one of you kind lot to sum it up for me: are we any closer to May leaving/stopping this whole thing?
Thanks for any replies
Thanks for any replies
Study shows 60% of Britons believe in conspiracy theories
Leavers more likely to doubt immigration figures and think there is a plot to make Muslims the majority in UK:
https://www.theguardian.com/society...-60-of-britons-believe-in-conspiracy-theories
Leavers more likely to doubt immigration figures and think there is a plot to make Muslims the majority in UK:
https://www.theguardian.com/society...-60-of-britons-believe-in-conspiracy-theories
Well, we've spent the last few days arguing about communism and rail privatisation to be honest.
the first vote on the deal is still like 3 weeks away, we'll find out then
Cheers guys
I think the past 4 years will go down as one of the most mismanaged periods of British political history.
What an absolute shambles.
Brexit should NOT happen. What a shame...
What an absolute shambles.
Brexit should NOT happen. What a shame...
Thats what they want you to believe.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/21/...bro9mlX7PjZe3rPnu5iU51zoOU5gwhR1mqObqJmP6Zl5Y
Where Brexit Hurts: The Nurses and Doctors Leaving London
Where Brexit Hurts: The Nurses and Doctors Leaving London
They completely believe that we had no say at all in the EU and it's solely down to Merkel and Macron.
That's why they're stung when we pay in what we pay because they think we don't contribute despite writing most of the common law.
We put genuine refugees in third world gulags for indefinite periods. We propose cutting migration when we need to increase it and we have a massive shortage of workers to do jobs at the more menial end of the spectrum due to our immigration policy. Perfect my arse.Yet migration from non-EU countries is 3 times that from EU countries and if we could be bothered to apply the rules we could make sure EU migrants go home when not employed. So it sounds like you are buying in to what is in fact xenophobic propaganda.
Nothing could be worse than the shower of shit presently in government.
As I said earlier, we are a stupid country.
It's about right for Network Rail but they are a quasi governmental appointed entity that manage the rail infrastructure. The profiteers are in the rail operators but as Sun Tzu says, even they are regulated.
Network Rail do a solid job on a piss poor budget so their much needed upgrading of the Victorian Rail network is "getting there" but still at the sort of pace BR manage. Lest we forget, the precursor to Network Rail was the fully private Rail Track and I would have praised them for making similar much needed if slow progress on an impossible task with a ludicrously small budget yet they were allowed to go bankrupt as the government continued to stael back their budget with fines for delays that were beyond their control.
It doesn't matter if it's privatised, semi private or nationalised. When we refuse to spend the amount needed to even maintain the status quo on our dilapidated infrastructure how can we be surprised that the service gets progressively worse.
Most countries are like that but their leaders are not stupid enough to hold referendums on such complex issues as staying in tbe EU.
May I just point out that blaming the EU for an influx of eastern Europeans is a bit rich coming from the country that lobbied hard to get eastern European countries into the EU...
Indeed...and was the only country (apart from Ireland) to allow full unlimited freedom of movement to citizens of those countries from the date of their accession.
And in Ireland we're generally much more approving of immigration from those countries than the UK.
I find it funny that arguably the most backward country in Europe of past times now seems to be much less backward than one of the supposed most progressive countries on earth.
A lot about brexit defies reason. We complain about rules we played a huge part in writing.
The single market was the brain child of a politician the Tories worship ffs!
Er....I mean their not really that wrong on this one. Change the whole lizard vibe into ''“even though we live in what’s called a democracy, a class will always run things in this country anyway” and it's class politics.
that sounds like a conspiracy theory to me... must be true!! but our reptillian overlords wont be happy that the truth is out there
We’re heading for a second referendum – and maybe a third
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brex...-third/ar-BBQ0vz3?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignout
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brex...-third/ar-BBQ0vz3?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignout
Agreed. Still, keep voting for them chaps.
How about the 3 Morrocan islands that Spain still cling on to? Don't suppose they'll be giving those up at the same time.
Yes it can. Wait and see.
In the 70’s I went to watch Man Utd all over the Midlands. I’d get an away day ticket that would let me on both buses and trains anywhere in the Midlands. It was cheap easy and the trains and buses were far more frequent.
Two months after they were sold my bus fair to work went up from 10p to 50p over night. It’s gone up steadily ever since. Half the buses that use to run have been cancelled and it cost you a fortune to get on one the trains are far worse. You could get a train every 10 minutes between my town and Birmingham before privatisation. If they cancel a train now your only option is the bus because the trains only run every 40 minutes.
They say that they want people to use public transport but it’s so shoddy and expensive that you have no choice but to drive.
Why is this numpty suddenly everywhere. He's a cretinous thick bastard who I wouldn't trust as far as I can throw. An unscrupulous careerist politician who has zero substance and will say anything to get a vote.
True but most of the underfunding was based of a report by a Tory Richard Beeching.True... but equally the biggest cost is the funding for network rail as they are pretty busy upgrading the Victorian era network as British fail did nothing with it
How? State sanctioned nuclear strike on central London?