Has political correctness actually gone mad?

MadMike said:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/news/survey-reveals-correct-way-to-pronounce-scone/

I'm a bone kind of person.
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I can't bring gone and scone to rhyme in my head. Once again the slight majority is wrong. (does wrong still rhyme with gone though? it better do).

Found this though:
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Red Defence said:
Surprising innit!

Trot off to Selfridges, Harrods or F and M and they only know them as scones (stones). If you say scones (gones) they haven’t a clue what you’re talking about.
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The one thing Harrods folk and the residents of Hull's most impoverished council estates have in common I guess!
 
VeevaVee said:
I'm pretty sure this is just using a common tactic for social media attention - winding people up with something obviously controversial/ridiculous.

I mean, I hope it is.
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Instead of bring home the bacon, I'm going to say bring home the vegan. Delicious vegans :drool:
 
I'd prefer my son to not be gay as well. Has nothing to do with me being a nazi. Would simply be easier for me to connect with him and more importantly, he would have an easier life.

Kevin Hart is about as funny as a root canal though, so who cares.
 
I wonder how some music aged. What if Queen released Fat Bottom Girls today. With lyrics like:

Left alone with big fat Fanny
She was such a naughty nanny
Heap big woman, you made a bad boy out of me

I imagine there would be some backlash.
 
KirkDuyt said:
I wonder how some music aged. What if Queen released Fat Bottom Girls today. With lyrics like:

Left alone with big fat Fanny
She was such a naughty nanny
Heap big woman, you made a bad boy out of me

I imagine there would be some backlash.
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What about Angel of Death by Slayer, the opening lines are:

Auschwitz, the meaning of pain
The way that I want you to die
Slow death, immense decay
Showers that cleanse you of your life
 
People who scroll back 10 years in someone’s Twitter feed are obviously seeking this stuff out deliberately as ammunition, and it seems to me that organisations should just be a bit stronger, instead of terrified. It’s probably what, 6 people on Twitter with their knickers in a twist? They need to put that in perspective. No-one really cares.

You can see that by the way comedians, film directors etc are always apologising for things like this, whereas Trump managed to get elected as president despite saying 10 times more shady things himself. The public voted and most people didn’t care. Even though he had more skeletons for the Twitter police to find than the usual person they’re trying to ruin, things were just bouncing off him because the average person isn’t bothered.
 
KirkDuyt said:
I wonder how some music aged. What if Queen released Fat Bottom Girls today. With lyrics like:

Left alone with big fat Fanny
She was such a naughty nanny
Heap big woman, you made a bad boy out of me

I imagine there would be some backlash.
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To be fair those lyrics were dodgy when they were released.
 
Grinner said:
Fairytale of New York could be out too because it has 'faggott' in the lyrics.
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Shane McGowan said:
The word was used by the character because it fitted with the way she would speak and with her character," he wrote. "She is not supposed to be a nice person, or even a wholesome person. She is a woman of a certain generation at a certain time in history and she is down on her luck and desperate.

Her dialogue is as accurate as I could make it but she is not intended to offend! She is just supposed to be an authentic character and not all characters in songs and stories are angels or even decent and respectable, sometimes characters in songs and stories have to be evil or nasty in order to tell the story effectively.

If people don't understand that I was trying to accurately portray the character as authentically as possible then I am absolutely fine with them bleeping the word but I don't want to get into an argument.
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Depressing that people need this to be explained to them.

What next? Ban 'Mississippi Burning' because there are racists in it?

Interesting that no one seems to have a problem with the woman in Fairytale of New York being called an 'old slut', although that's probably next.
 
2 man midfield said:
People who scroll back 10 years in someone’s Twitter feed are obviously seeking this stuff out deliberately as ammunition, and it seems to me that organisations should just be a bit stronger, instead of terrified. It’s probably what, 6 people on Twitter with their knickers in a twist? They need to put that in perspective. No-one really cares.

You can see that by the way comedians, film directors etc are always apologising for things like this, whereas Trump managed to get elected as president despite saying 10 times more shady things himself. The public voted and most people didn’t care. Even though he had more skeletons for the Twitter police to find than the usual person they’re trying to ruin, things were just bouncing off him because the average person isn’t bothered.
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Honestly, this is pretty close to my stance on the whole issue.
I'm not a big fan of digging through people's history and using their old selves as a stick to beat their current selves with, unless they've shown persistent occurrences of whatever behaviour is being highlighted.
In this case, Kevin Hart has been called up for his homophobic tweets and jokes in the past, apologised then and hasn't faltered since which I think is the most ideal outcome.
Which begs the question, why is this being dragged out again, and why now?

That points me to the particular journalist who decided to spark this whole issue up, for a number of reasons, one of them being he accused Tyler the Creator of 'queerbaiting' when he came out as bisexual - which seems, nonsensical at best if you're a member of the LGBTQ community. The journalist seems to have a contentious history with black men, and the timing of this whole issue strikes me as opportunist. Also the relationship between the LGBTQ community and black men (gay or straight) is very peculiar - male white, LGBTQ members are of course discriminated against, but also have the capability to be racist - and likewise straight black men can be discriminated against, while also being homophobic - and both groups often are at odds with each other for those very reasons.
It's obviously a sensitive topic because you're dealing with two minority groups, but at some point these uncomfortable discussions should be had out in the open.

Those are the places where political correctness has gone too far, if it stifles constructive conversations & progression from being made.
Nobody gives a feck about song lyrics or PETAs attention whoring.
 
villain said:
Honestly, this is pretty close to my stance on the whole issue.
I'm not a big fan of digging through people's history and using their old selves as a stick to beat their current selves with, unless they've shown persistent occurrences of whatever behaviour is being highlighted.
In this case, Kevin Hart has been called up for his homophobic tweets and jokes in the past, apologised then and hasn't faltered since which I think is the most ideal outcome.
Which begs the question, why is this being dragged out again, and why now?

That points me to the particular journalist who decided to spark this whole issue up, for a number of reasons, one of them being he accused Tyler the Creator of 'queerbaiting' when he came out as bisexual - which seems, nonsensical at best if you're a member of the LGBTQ community. The journalist seems to have a contentious history with black men, and the timing of this whole issue strikes me as opportunist. Also the relationship between the LGBTQ community and black men (gay or straight) is very peculiar - male white, LGBTQ members are of course discriminated against, but also have the capability to be racist - and likewise straight black men can be discriminated against, while also being homophobic - and both groups often are at odds with each other for those very reasons.
It's obviously a sensitive topic because you're dealing with two minority groups, but at some point these uncomfortable discussions should be had out in the open.

Those are the places where political correctness has gone too far, if it stifles constructive conversations & progression from being made.
Nobody gives a feck about song lyrics or PETAs attention whoring.
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Hmmm... So it's an issue for you now but didn't bother you when - for example - James Gunn got fired because of ancient tweets which were in bad taste?

I think it's obvious why you see the two scenarios very differently but I don't think that's reasonable. It's wrong for someone to have a great opportunity in their career sabotaged - because of self-righteous arseholes mining old tweets - whether or not the person affected belongs to a minority group, surely?
 
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