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Wow that's a load of nonsense. The DUP have zero and I repeat zero interest in doing anything for the better of Northern Ireland. Their whole strategy is to keep their supporters in constant fear they will lose everything. They are not going to suddenly start throwing money around making their lives better
As a distant observer the feeling I get is that the current impasse can not be broken and thus the UK will just crawl itself to and dully fall from the edge of the no deal cliff. Is this a correct assessment?
I can only see a no Brexit end to all of this and hopefully any future government will never again let people vote for something they know nothing about
No my comment about the “civil war” wasnt aimed at blaming any faction for it but was hinting at the negative economic effects of the troubles and I was concluding that the DUP’s deal (irrespective of political allegiances) can only be a good thing for NI.
Who can single handedly cancel Brexit ? Surely the only thing that can happen by inaction is no deal. That's how A50 is supposed to work.
No confidence = election and new Tory leader, and none of them want the job right now because they know the situation is fecked.
Just wait until after the deadline and we'll see the weasels like Johnson and JRM scurry about demanding another vote of no confidence.
That just about sums it up.
It can be cancelled and most likely will as Noone will ever get their version through and there is very little support for a no deal .
I’ve come up with the hard figures promised by HM Government. What have you got?
So what are the DUP going to do with their billion quid then? Spend it all on propaganda?
I'm absolutely sure the creationist, anti abortionist, sectarian, former terrorist, hard right bible literalists of the DUP will use that money to the betterment of NI.
Is it still a promise or it has been budgeted?
I imagine even they are worried though that the Tories would tear themselves apart when picking a new leader and that you'd see an eventual election.
But it's the parliament that has the authority to cancel it , unless I am mistaken and the PM can do it as well however that appears extremely unlikely to me. And if it's the people 's representatives that are the only ones to do it, then it would appear to be defying 'the will of the people' if they do it without a second referendum.
Just seen May's speech and, basically, she can go feck herself.
She's absolutely useless. Sick to death from this incompetent fool.
Mrs May...
Ok so he says he suports the deal, he gets ripped to shreds.
He says he wants a peoples vote, he gets ripped to shreds.
He says he is ok with no deal, he gets ripped to shreds.
Yes, he can make a stand, but which ever way he turns he gets torn apart and regardless of what he says the papers will attack him anyway.
As a consolation if she was replaced another incompetent fool would take her place.
Oh I'm sure a certain few areas of Northern Ireland will see some of the money at work .
Like the DUP are doing as Northern Ireland voted to stay yet they are pushing for it
People given a yes or no decision over something with so many complexities, what could possibly go wrong?
The country is in a right mess with incompetent political leaders across the political spectrum. The public just aren’t knowledgable enough to decide on an issue such as this. People are also ignoring the crimes Vote Leave committed which are currently under investigation and all the hatred Brexit has created giving rise to racist groups.
A complete and utter shitstorm. It needs a political genius to get us out of this mess and reunite the country. Don’t see that person anywhere.
The country is in a right mess with incompetent political leaders across the political spectrum. The public just aren’t knowledgable enough to decide on an issue such as this. People are also ignoring the crimes Vote Leave committed which are currently under investigation and all the hatred Brexit has created giving rise to racist groups.
A complete and utter shitstorm. It needs a political genius to get us out of this mess and reunite the country. Don’t see that person anywhere.
Just fecking awful.
You'd think so, wouldn't you.
Exactly.Struggling to care much about this anymore.
Roll on the Crossaint famine and impending socialist revolution.
Roll on the Crossaint famine and impending socialist revolution.
"Representative democracy"
Corbyn saying May should rule out “no deal” before talking.
Doesn’t he realise the EU set the deadline date, not the British Government, so how can May possibly agree it won’t happen?
Posturing & more BS, basically.
Just get round the table now and act like grown ups ffs. No time for stalling
Doesn’t he realise the EU set the deadline date, not the British Government, so how can May possibly agree it won’t happen?
Posturing & more BS, basically.
Just get round the table now and act like grown ups ffs. No time for stalling
What the feck are you talking about?
“Under domestic law, extending article 50 would require changes to the March 29 exit date set in the EU Withdrawal Act. As a matter of EU law, the text of article 50 states that the UK cannot unilaterally extend the two-year negotiation period. Nor can it “demand” an extension. It can only “ask for” one.”
Ah, so we can ask for an extension these days. The EU should tell us to feck off in that case.
As far as I understand the issue now:
If things continue as it is, there will be a no-deal brexit.
The people in parliment won't want that, so they'll ask for a extension at the very least to decide between any sort of deal or no deal. For the EU to accept an extension they'll want a referendum where one option is to revoke article 50 and cancel brexit.
So it's likely to either be a no-deal brexit or a referendum between 2+ options where one is revoking article 50. Due to the time left and how people comment around how parliment looks at it there will likely be a second referendum when someone finds the balls to call it like it is.
If things continue as it is, there will be a no-deal brexit.
The people in parliment won't want that, so they'll ask for a extension at the very least to decide between any sort of deal or no deal. For the EU to accept an extension they'll want a referendum where one option is to revoke article 50 and cancel brexit.
So it's likely to either be a no-deal brexit or a referendum between 2+ options where one is revoking article 50. Due to the time left and how people comment around how parliment looks at it there will likely be a second referendum when someone finds the balls to call it like it is.
May has had years to get them round the table. She instead froze them out and waited until her deal was humiliated in the vote, and now with weeks left invites them for talks.
Desperately hope you're right!
Exactly. It's a desperate last resort & mere window-dressing, yet it'll be presented as selflessness.
If you cast your mind back,less than a month ago, Corbyn was asking that the discussion in the commons was carried out before the Christmas break.
The whole process has been in the hands of the government, and yet you think Corbyn has been stalling?
I see she's met with opposition party leaders tonight, making out that she's some sort of saviour prepared to do whatever is in the nation's best interests. She's had two fecking years to consult other parties and try and reach a consensus with them. Instead she's spent that time trying to conjure a deal that can placate the No Deal supporting extremists in her own party.
Charming people.