Only a Chinese club would take him off our hands with what he's reportedly on.
Our weak attack
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This, when you play a narrow formation with nothing coming from fullbacks in terms of width up top you're asking for trouble. In that sense us and Chelsea are in the same ship.
I think our current attackers could do with better support from midfield and the full back positions. Part of this is time, part of this is better tactics, part of this is better personnel (a good RW or RB if Dalot isn't ready, and a replacement for Matic).
I'm tired of dipping into the market, only to find out our newest toy isn't performing well enough because we just expect a plug and play solution.
And I don't think Lukaku is an oaf, so there's that.
I'm tired of dipping into the market, only to find out our newest toy isn't performing well enough because we just expect a plug and play solution.
And I don't think Lukaku is an oaf, so there's that.
Sterling or a wide attacker at his level and a top CB would make us challengers
All we need is a young RW with big potential to come in aka Sancho.
Martial Rashford Sancho. That front three would cause problems for anyone.
Martial Rashford Sancho. That front three would cause problems for anyone.
This. We need at least one attacker on Sterling level, not just another "prospect".
And if we're striving to mount a genuine title challenge, another experienced striker who can bring others to play. That's if Sanchez can't stay fit.
I have watched highlights of a few games for Dalot and he could be a fantastic wing back given the chance, I feel.
We need an upgrade on lingard apart from running he is neither scoring or assisting enough
Pepe from Lille, an explosive pacy(technical) RW, who is killing it in ligue 1 will be up for sale for many clubs in the summer if he keeps going like he is.
It's not that our attack is weak, it's lopsided.
Look at Liverpool and City. Their attacks come from all directions making it harder for the opposing team to defend space.
Our opponents overload the right side of their defence (left side of our attack) without consequences. If teams overload the right side against Liverpool or City, Salah or Sterling kills them. If the overload the right side, Mane and Sane kill them.
We have to depend on a widely inconsistent converted 33 year old winger.
Look at Liverpool and City. Their attacks come from all directions making it harder for the opposing team to defend space.
Our opponents overload the right side of their defence (left side of our attack) without consequences. If teams overload the right side against Liverpool or City, Salah or Sterling kills them. If the overload the right side, Mane and Sane kill them.
We have to depend on a widely inconsistent converted 33 year old winger.
RW and RB urgently needed.
27% shots from left side attacks (i assume) and 7% from right sided? So does that mean 54% from central attacks?
If true it underlines how wing play has been left our game since SAF retired.
If true it underlines how wing play has been left our game since SAF retired.
Makes sense. Most shots in football are fairly central.
I think CB and fullbacks are something need to be focused on first more than our “weak attack”. Unless if we end up selling Lukaku or Sanchez, then we do need a replacement for sure.
Right minded fans have been arguing for years that our attack has been grossly neglected by the previous coach(es). It feels great to be validated.
Our attack can be scary on the counter. Enough of this bollocks.
Our attack can be scary on the counter. Enough of this bollocks.
What a time to bump up this embarrassing thread. I've never disagreed that we need to upgrade FB and CB. I just think, if Sanchez doesn't come good / injured all the time, we need one ready-to-go attacker if we want to challenge for the League next season.
We play an attacking possession style down the left, and direct counter-attacking style down the right.
I dont think our right side is weak at all. Yes, it lacks a dedicated rightwinger, but that's by design.
We score plenty from players drifting into that space on the right. Both the first two goals today, for example.
I dont think our right side is weak at all. Yes, it lacks a dedicated rightwinger, but that's by design.
We score plenty from players drifting into that space on the right. Both the first two goals today, for example.
Our attack is fine apart from the RW. Keeping all of our attackers and adding a RW would put us in a very good position with the prospect of Greenwood, Chong and Gomes emerging. It has always been our defence that is the problem. Sign a top RB, CB and LB and you will see the attack shine even more. I'd be happy to sign a DM too but honestly I believe if we sort out our defense then Matic will look way better too. Same goes for both Pogba and Herrera. CB, LB, RB and RW are the areas we need to be investing heavily to progress. Young and Valencia let go, Rojo (firstly) and Jones (promote Tuanzebe) gone and get some top class talent in. We'd have one of the best squads in the World if we can manage this.
We have scored 22 league goals in our last 8 games. We can bump this thread anytime.
Yes you never. But you act like that our attack is weak that we should focus more (more glaring) to upgrade our attack. The thing I’m against with your statement is that our attack isn’t weak, it does need an improvement I do agree but we have other position that needs an upgrade first since those other positions are our weak sides. We have lots of attacking option, and some of their wages aren’t small at all so we do need to sell as well if we want to upgrade.
Another issue is that summer windows for PL clubs has been cut down to very short period of time. Signing three or more quality players might be too hard especially that we haven’t even settle our future manager too.
Remember, attack wins you a game, defence wins you the league. Can we challenge the league with our current attackers next season? If we are playing like in the last 8 games then yes. Can we be a favourite to win it with our attackers option? May be that’s different answer. But I don’t really expect to win the league from the new manager next season even if Ole is the one in charge.
I think we should go for Nicolas Pepe on our right wing. Give Sanchez 1 More season and move him on if he’s still not up to it.
Apart from that though everybody is looking really dangerous right now.
Apart from that though everybody is looking really dangerous right now.
Ruud left in what, 06? Rooney and Ronaldo were our main men for the next three seasons when we won 3 in a row, they were still very young in 06.
Exactly
Another example of someone either with a bad memory or just making stuff up as no one would forget Rooney and Ronaldo being young leading us to 3 in a row. Ruud was way before that
he's good this season ( purple patch ? ) but I don't think that he's good enough for this club
I thought this thread was a bit of joke and looks even worse now. In what way is our attack "weak"?
Lukaku.
I wish it weren't the case and I know he's capable of a good assist to two, but it's not why we bought him.
Rashford is better than Firmino.
Admittedly not RvN in 2006, but several senior attackers who contribute to assists and goals. Did Giggs doesn't count as attacker, or Saha? The 2006 attack was almost run out of gas, thus Henrik Larson loan. Fergie learnt the lesson. Then in 2007, we bought Tevez, then Berbatov the season after that, even though Rooney and Ronaldo were actually getting matured.
As said before, we may be fine, if Sanchez will contribute more.
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Yeah agreed, like you say we have Sanchez who will hopefully find some sort of form, Pogba whos stats lately are like a strikers
plus Rom who will always score plenty and Mata who can chip in. People forget as well how important Lingard is to our play.Well this is what the scouts job is. You have to tell whether this is a 1 of season or if this is his natural level.
Personally from watching him this is his natural level. His athleticism is fantastic, he's got great ball skills. He's basically a Bailly in attack. Rough round the edges but huge potential.
He isn't going to cost 70+million either, he could be our Mane.
Didn't we have a buy back clause for Memphis Depay ? Surely he would come back now since Jose is gone.
One thing in my opinion you have mistaken is that the idea of SAF who doesn’t rely on young player to lead the attack. Larsson was signed on loan because we need more depth in attack not mainly because we want to add more senior, Giggs was considered to be midfielder, Saha was our XI striker but the star and the ones who led our attack were Ronaldo & Rooney.
If you are old enough you are good enough, having experienced players in the team is also important to support the young players and share their world class mentality and leadership in dressing room. In that case, Saha wasn’t exactly that type of experienced players, the experienced players with world class mentality and leadership skills were Neville, Giggs & Scholes or may be Rio. None were attackers.
Sir Alex has been doing this whenever he built his team in different generation. From the class 92 with Cantona, Bruce, Schmeichel, or even Keane (young age but gifted with world class leadership) until end of his managerial career. In our current situation we don’t have those type of players anymore. Pogba is the closest we can have right now, and signing a leadership centre back can give us massive boost as well in defence, mentality and leadership.
Assume if we stuck with Martial, Rashford & Lingard trio and if they can keep performing like they have been doing up to now until end of season and if our manager is still Ole and playing in the system next season then the only way to upgrade our attackers to be comparable with at least Liverpool is by signing a world class one or hoping Sanchez or Rashford or Martial step up next season into a world class level. Because imo we are one world class behind compare to Liverpool trio. I believe both Martial and Rashford in their current form are similar to Mane & Firmino.
No it's not, but the manager who bought him didn't have a clue how to use him properly.
He is a really useful player to have in the squad. He proved last night that he has more than one string to his bow, and he gives us options in how we set up
Jesus Christ drop the Lukaku bollocks
He’s scored nearly 40 goals for us in a season and a half whilst under a manager that played shite football, yeah his first touch can be a let down but how many time does Martial feck up a dribble or Rashford when the ball gets stuck under his feet whilst in sprint mode?
This place just needs someone to bash it’s either Lingard, Pogba, Jones.
Everyone has improved since Ole has taken over, can’t people just be happy with that without STILL spouting negatives?
Thought Rom played great last night, made that right side his own, ran their back line ragged with some powerful runs, some dangerous crosses and two excellent assists.
Not a weak attack just a weak manager in Jose Mourinho.
Ole has shown the world we have the best attack in the world.
Ole has shown the world we have the best attack in the world.
He's not at the moment. Also it's not Firminos goal scoring that makes him a great CT it's his ability to create space and bring others into the game. It's exactly what were lacking since we have great fire power from the wings and midfield.
Lingard.
If we can somehow offload Mata and Lukaku in the summer, then buy Sancho and promote Greenwood then that'll be perfect.
1st choice: Martial - Rashford - Sancho
Reserves: Sanchez - Greenwood - Lingard
Sanchez would come in for anyone of the starting 3 whenever one was injured, off-form, Sancho while he's still settling in, etc. Lingard will continue being an excellent squad player, and Greenwood can get enough minutes to begin developing.
All of these players can play more than one position as well, which makes things even more fluid, exciting, and useful.
Martial - LW and CF
Rashford - LW and CF and RW
Sancho - LW and RW
Sanchez - LW and CF and RW
Greenwood - CF and RW
Lingard - LW and RW (and AM)
Pogba can always come in as a very advanced midfielder as well if we get hit by a once-in-a-generation injury crisis.
1st choice: Martial - Rashford - Sancho
Reserves: Sanchez - Greenwood - Lingard
Sanchez would come in for anyone of the starting 3 whenever one was injured, off-form, Sancho while he's still settling in, etc. Lingard will continue being an excellent squad player, and Greenwood can get enough minutes to begin developing.
All of these players can play more than one position as well, which makes things even more fluid, exciting, and useful.
Martial - LW and CF
Rashford - LW and CF and RW
Sancho - LW and RW
Sanchez - LW and CF and RW
Greenwood - CF and RW
Lingard - LW and RW (and AM)
Pogba can always come in as a very advanced midfielder as well if we get hit by a once-in-a-generation injury crisis.
Have to hold my hands up. I've started to think that Lukaku is "savable", means that he has a lot of use as an attack option.
Although, I'm just greedy to have one of attacker who could mesmerize us, just like Best, Ronaldo, Giggs, or Rooney (on his day). I think that's the mark of "great team" to have that kind of talisman.
Although, I'm just greedy to have one of attacker who could mesmerize us, just like Best, Ronaldo, Giggs, or Rooney (on his day). I think that's the mark of "great team" to have that kind of talisman.