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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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After seven years of intensive discussions with the East Unicorn Islands for a free trade deal to export 10000 inflatable Reliant Robins, Dr Liam Fox presents his agreement to parliament which is refused on the grounds that the UK will not allow work visas for the East Unicornians.

Go back and try again, Dr Fox.
 
And now she's pushed back the debate by an hour, the dillydally prime minister

I'll be disappointed if Labour don't back Coopers amendment today or at least declare a free vote. I can understand the argument that it'll portray them as trying to block brexit but there's an obvious counter argument to that, the prime minister doesn't know what she's doing, we can't let her lead us to the worst kind of brexit through incompetence.
 
Brexit conversations are getting more and more heated.
Believe me, I want the thing cancelled. My boss's haven't given guarantees they won't be moving operations to mainland Europe. Most of my office's work is risk analysis for the European credit market. Only a small part is domestic.
I have already started exploring the Canadian skilled migrant worker express entry.
Not knowing is killing me.
I hear you mate. It's a fecking joke. Eye opening wrt politicians and how they think, the average citizen and how they don't think, the extremists and the lengths they'll go to.

I despair...
 
And now she's pushed back the debate by an hour, the dillydally prime minister

I'll be disappointed if Labour don't back Coopers amendment today or at least declare a free vote. I can understand the argument that it'll portray them as trying to block brexit but there's an obvious counter argument to that, the prime minister doesn't know what she's doing, we can't let her lead us to the worst kind of brexit through incompetence.
They (Labour) have already voted to block May's crappy version of brexit, no need to be shy about doing it again.
 
Labour are supporting the Cooper amendment:



Could this be the first step in the endgame of this process? Which May has turned in to a fiasco of shambles?
 
The Brady and Cooper amendments will pass now i think. So we'll have another couple of weeks of failed talks before the extension is requested followed by more of the same for the next few months. At least we'll all be more prepared for no deal i guess
 
Labour are supporting the Cooper amendment:



Could this be the first step in the endgame of this process? Which May has turned in to a fiasco of shambles?

presumably they will aim for less than 3 months to avoid the euro election?
that said whats the probability of a whole new negotiation being started and finished in 3 months - pretty low I'd guess
so probably more the end of the start rather than the start of the endgame
 
The Brady and Cooper amendments will pass now i think. So we'll have another couple of weeks of failed talks before the extension is requested followed by more of the same for the next few months. At least we'll all be more prepared for no deal i guess

No deal is two months today, after latest government action any hope of an extension would have evaporated.

I revise my opinion to 95% no deal 5% cancel Brexit.
 
The Brady and Cooper amendments will pass now i think. So we'll have another couple of weeks of failed talks before the extension is requested followed by more of the same for the next few months. At least we'll all be more prepared for no deal i guess
I still think it might be pretty close actually - assuming all of the conservatives other than the 20 or so remain rebels vote against it along with the DUP they will need to keep opposition rebels down to pretty low numbers - and I think 6 voted for Mays deal... I think there will be a few in leave constituencies who think twice about being seen to "block brexit"...
 
It's going to be mega lols when she goes back to the EU to try and re-negotiate something she's wasted 2 years on....and they tell her to feck off
 
I still think it might be pretty close actually - assuming all of the conservatives other than the 20 or so remain rebels vote against it along with the DUP they will need to keep opposition rebels down to pretty low numbers - and I think 6 voted for Mays deal... I think there will be a few in leave constituencies who think twice about being seen to "block brexit"...

Possibly but I've got the feeling that if it's close she'll just adopt that position anyway. The fact she's backing this suggests she has no other ideas
 
Oh no a backbench MP is proposing a bill on smoking, a backbench MP raising a new bill. A constitutional crisis according to Mogg just last week he said this couldn't happen.

Poor lass no one's listening :lol:
 
Possibly but I've got the feeling that if it's close she'll just adopt that position anyway. The fact she's backing this suggests she has no other ideas
Depends how close the Brady motion is... These votes are non binding so she might still choose to refuse to rule out no deal and try to renegotiate (and yes I know it's futile... But shes stubborn enough to not care)
 
Oh no a backbench MP is proposing a bill on smoking, a backbench MP raising a new bill. A constitutional crisis according to Mogg just last week he said this couldn't happen.

Poor lass no one's listening :lol:

Even after the Speaker telling MPs to shut up and listen, they still aren't
 
Just drive a stake through her and be done with it

Can already tell this is going to be about painting Labour as blockers
 
Just drive a stake through her and be done with it

Can already tell this is going to be about painting Labour as blockers
TBF its valid - problem is either just under or just over half of the country actually want it blocked... going to have to be a GE basically fought as a second referendum at this rate I think... a Brexit party / conservative alliance with Farrage Mogg and Johnson running the show... May might actually look competent in comparison?
 
Can someone please point out to her the reason she's going back now is she didn't ask the house in the first place and she still isn't
 
Can someone please point out to her the reason she's going back now is she didn't ask the house in the first place and she still isn't

What's happening today should have taken place before they triggered A50.

I can't actually believe what is going on in parliament. Every day becomes more farcical.
 
Well all the Commonwealth countries were supposed to be falling over each other desperate to have deals with the UK.

The Tories still think it's the 19th century but the world is watching very closely at their behaviour. They're going to be in for a nasty surprise.
Not only are they leaving an important trading bloc but are proving they cannot be trusted and also will not have any trade deals in hand.

I wonder who will have the upper hand in any negotiations. Bit of a turn around from the Empire.

Yes, no Gun-boats to send this time, only aircraft carriers... with no aircraft!
 
I wish the opposition would just abandon pleasantries and jeer the PM to actually answer the fecking question
 
Brexit is the perfect example of "everything that can go wrong, will go wrong". Except in this case, it's going wrong because the leader's of your country are a bunch of idiotic, self-serving twats.

At this stage there's a small part of me that wants to see the UK crash out with no deal and watch the madness unfold, because they've earned it, but unfortunately there's a bigger part of me that doesn't because I don't want to see my country do the same.
 
Is May suggesting she didn't know the backstop was of importance or that she previously failed in her negotiations to get something that was achievable?
 
True that. Cameron and the conservatives probably should have done it before the referendum really.

It would never have crossed their minds before the referendum because none of our politicians, including those advocating Leave, ever believed for one minute there would be a Leave majority. That's why virtually all MP's voted for the referendum to be put to the people in the first place and didn't bother specifying percentage outcomes to carry the day. When you think how Labour only added Corbyn's name to the list for their leadership race because they wanted to make up the numbers and be seen to be 'fair'; when the leadership of the Liberal Democrats were so eager to join a Tory government, to 'assist the country' and then promptly sold their souls over tuition fees; then on reflection you realise how incompetent our political class has become, add to that the scandal of MP's expenses and you begin to see why there is a large majority of MPs wanting to remain in the EU, and can shelter behind any laws made in the EU that the general public doesn't like.

If the UK ever were to leave the EU, and even now I doubt it will ever happen, the only protection for the people against further calamitous politics, is for the country at last to adopt a written constitution.