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He’s basically saying that he wants all the benefits of being in, without being in. Confusing

Yes he wants all the benefits and no obligations, even worse than May's cake and eat it strategy at the beginning of the negotiations.

The UK couldn't have chosen a worst time to have the two most incompetent leaders of the major political parties.
 
it's like living with someone for years, paying rent, and bills, and contributing to cleaning and maintenance, and then telling them you no longer want to pay or contribute but still want to live there with all benefits, and then when they say no, throwing a strop and tell them they're being incredibly unreasonable.

Corbyn's a fecking moron.
 
I am not a commiesta far from it but I think that Jeremy's deal is far more realistic then anything being thrown by the Tory party. If he adds freedom of movement, substantial fees to access the single market and respect to the ECJ rules then he might have a winner there.
 
It's simple frustration due to the fact that after almost two years, UK leaders aren't close to have an idea about what brexit means to them. And the UK leaving has nothing to do with EU leaders, that's a UK decision based on UK internal politics considerations.

Yes. Tend to agree with you.
I have watched Tusk ever since we voted to leave and it was very clear from the beginning that he was not only very disappointed for the sake of the EU but I felt that he was also disappointed for the British people.

He has behaved with great dignity thus far but at some stage he had to make his frustrations evident.

Like all of us, he is a human being and humans have emotions.
His comment was not an off the cuff outburst but designed to let everyone know exactly how he feels.

Unfortunately there will be no winners in this process but ultimately both sides will have to move on and deal with the outcome as best as is possible.
 
Its evident that the EU's usual sober tone hasn't really worked out with an audience who would rather listen to the likes of Farage, Davis and Boris then experts. Maybe that's the reason for a change of tone?

He is just venting, there is no particular reasons or point. While we all understand why he would be frustrated, it's still stupid to do it on twitter.
 
It's simple frustration due to the fact that after almost two years, UK leaders aren't close to have an idea about what brexit means to them. And the UK leaving has nothing to do with EU leaders, that's a UK decision based on UK internal politics considerations.

I think he probably has realised that what Brexit means, is the UK leaving the EU, with or without a deal, that's why he's panicking now. Tusk has believed in Tony Blair and had hoped that Remain would gain the upper hand and negotiate a soft Brexit or Brino, or even a second referendum that would overturn the first one, but now he can see that hope fading rapidly.

Like his other colleagues leading the EU, Tusk is now between a rock and hard place, the Irish want their back stop and the British don't, if anyone's staring hell in the face its Donald Tusk, bridging the gap between Ireland and Britain has been attempted for the last 300 years without success, somebody should have told him!

I still think May will concede and call off Brexit altogether, then walk off into the sunset like Cameron and the world will return to normal, but with British politics changed forever.
 
I am not a commiesta far from it but I think that Jeremy's deal is far more realistic then anything being thrown by the Tory party. If he adds freedom of movement, substantial fees to access the single market and respect to the ECJ rules then he might have a winner there.

I assume you're being sarcastic - remain in the EU.
 
He is just venting, there is no particular reasons or point. While we all understand why he would be frustrated, it's still stupid to do it on twitter.

maybe you're right. There again as said, the EU usual sober tone is constantly being drowned by moronic comments from Davis, Boris and Warleggan. Maybe a change in tone might reach a sector of the audience that hasn't yet been reached till this time of date. Also it might be that the EU is using reverse psychology. I mean when the EU tried to court the UK it was interpreted as the EU needing the UK more then the UK needs the EU. Who knows maybe by sending them to hell as good old De Gaulle did, then they might have a change of mind.
 
I think he probably has realised that what Brexit means, is the UK leaving the EU, with or without a deal, that's why he's panicking now. Tusk has believed in Tony Blair and had hoped that Remain would gain the upper hand and negotiate a soft Brexit or Brino, or even a second referendum that would overturn the first one, but now he can see that hope fading rapidly.

Like his other colleagues leading the EU, Tusk is now between a rock and hard place, the Irish want their back stop and the British don't, if anyone's staring hell in the face its Donald Tusk, bridging the gap between Ireland and Britain has been attempted for the last 300 years without success, somebody should have told him!

I still think May will concede and call off Brexit altogether, then walk off into the sunset like Cameron and the world will return to normal, but with British politics changed forever.

Don't panic Mr Mainwaring the UK are leaving the EU.

The problem is that although the EU accepted that the UK are leaving back in 2016, the UK still haven't accepted that the UK are leaving the EU in 2019.
 
I assume you're being sarcastic - remain in the EU.

A customs union with the EU is achievable especially if it commits itself to a close alignment with the single market which will force the UK to follow ECJ rules. The UK can also subscribe to EU projects as long as it handsomely pays for them as well.
 
Don't panic Mr Mainwaring the UK are leaving the EU.

The problem is that although the EU accepted that the UK are leaving back in 2016, the UK still haven't accepted that the UK are leaving the EU in 2019.

You are obviously not resident in the UK! Not only is it accepted, the cries to get on with it grow louder every day!
 
I think he probably has realised that what Brexit means, is the UK leaving the EU, with or without a deal, that's why he's panicking now. Tusk has believed in Tony Blair and had hoped that Remain would gain the upper hand and negotiate a soft Brexit or Brino, or even a second referendum that would overturn the first one, but now he can see that hope fading rapidly.

Like his other colleagues leading the EU, Tusk is now between a rock and hard place, the Irish want their back stop and the British don't, if anyone's staring hell in the face its Donald Tusk, bridging the gap between Ireland and Britain has been attempted for the last 300 years without success, somebody should have told him!

I still think May will concede and call off Brexit altogether, then walk off into the sunset like Cameron and the world will return to normal, but with British politics changed forever.

So you think that the Irish want the backstop to protect the Good Friday Agreement but the British don't?

Why do you think that is?
 
I think he probably has realised that what Brexit means, is the UK leaving the EU, with or without a deal, that's why he's panicking now. Tusk has believed in Tony Blair and had hoped that Remain would gain the upper hand and negotiate a soft Brexit or Brino, or even a second referendum that would overturn the first one, but now he can see that hope fading rapidly.

Like his other colleagues leading the EU, Tusk is now between a rock and hard place, the Irish want their back stop and the British don't, if anyone's staring hell in the face its Donald Tusk, bridging the gap between Ireland and Britain has been attempted for the last 300 years without success, somebody should have told him!

I still think May will concede and call off Brexit altogether, then walk off into the sunset like Cameron and the world will return to normal, but with British politics changed forever.

Tusk has nothing to do with any of these things, your attempt at shoehorning him is almost impressive. The UK leaving is a fact, EU member states have actually prepared themselves for a hard brexit not a soft or a cancelling. The issue is that seemingly the UK don't realize that it's supposed to happen at the end of March, they are still drafting unicorns and wondering whether they should be pink or blue. Today, Uk's parliament has ruled out soft and hard brexit, which is the source of the frustration, no one knows what you want.
 
You are obviously not resident in the UK! Not only is it accepted, the cries to get on with it grow louder every day!

Internet was installed last week in France and just bought a TV for the first time in my life today.

What I mean is that the UK haven't accepted the consequences of leaving the EU. We're waiting for them to go but they keep trying to hang on.
 
So you think that the Irish want the backstop to protect the Good Friday Agreement but the British don't?

Why do you think that is?

The British don't want to be a hostage to fortune, so they want the backstop removed, or at least time limited, neither of which the Irish want or will agree with; so Tusk's reputation is going down the pan, the UK left the EU on his watch!
 
The British don't want to be a hostage to fortune, so they want the backstop removed, or at least time limited, neither of which the Irish want or will agree with; so Tusk's reputation is going down the pan, the UK left the EU on his watch!
The backstop was the UKs plan. The EU plan was to move the EU border to the Irish sea.
 
A customs union with the EU is achievable especially if it commits itself to a close alignment with the single market which will force the UK to follow ECJ rules. The UK can also subscribe to EU projects as long as it handsomely pays for them as well.

You were being serious.
The Uk would have no say in EU commercial policy or any part of discussions without being a member of the EU.
They'd have to accept the ECJ.
They'd have to pay the fees.
They'd have to accept the four freedoms.

Firstly why would they leave the EU and which of the above would pass through parliament and be acceptable to Brexiters, not one of them would, never mind all of them.
 
The British don't want to be a hostage to fortune, so they want the backstop removed, or at least time limited, neither of which the Irish want or will agree with; so Tusk's reputation is going down the pan, the UK left the EU on his watch!
You really are just another shit stirrer.
 
Tusk has nothing to do with any of these things, your attempt at shoehorning him is almost impressive. The UK leaving is a fact, EU member states have actually prepared themselves for a hard brexit not a soft or a cancelling. The issue is that seemingly the UK don't realize that it's supposed to happen at the end of March, they are still drafting unicorns and wondering whether they should be pink or blue. Today, Uk's parliament has ruled out soft and hard brexit, which is the source of the frustration, no one knows what you want.

If this is true, then to quote a famous footballing term..."if he isn't interfering with play, what's he doing on the pitch"? Donald is 'front and centre' on this and future EU leaders will curse him for letting the cash cow wander out of the field.
 
The British don't want to be a hostage to fortune,

No the backstop isn't holding the UK 'hostage' that would be the Good Friday Agreement. And let's remember the UK signed up to uphold and protect the GFA not the EU.

so they want the backstop removed, or at least time limited, neither of which the Irish want or will agree with; so Tusk's reputation is going down the pan, the UK left the EU on his watch!

Well the backstop was designed around the UK governments wishes. Also if it's removed or time limited then what protects the Good Friday Agreement if no solution to the border issue is found in the future?
 
I think he probably has realised that what Brexit means, is the UK leaving the EU, with or without a deal, that's why he's panicking now. Tusk has believed in Tony Blair and had hoped that Remain would gain the upper hand and negotiate a soft Brexit or Brino, or even a second referendum that would overturn the first one, but now he can see that hope fading rapidly.

Like his other colleagues leading the EU, Tusk is now between a rock and hard place, the Irish want their back stop and the British don't, if anyone's staring hell in the face its Donald Tusk, bridging the gap between Ireland and Britain has been attempted for the last 300 years without success, somebody should have told him!

I still think May will concede and call off Brexit altogether, then walk off into the sunset like Cameron and the world will return to normal, but with British politics changed forever.
I'm pretty sure the Irish don't want any of this mess nor do the EU. The gerronwitit stance makes feck all sense when you don't know what you want to get on with.
 
If this is true, then to quote a famous footballing term..."if he isn't interfering with play, what's he doing on the pitch"? Donald is 'front and centre' on this and future EU leaders will curse him for letting the cash cow wander out of the field.

Even if we ignore the fact that he has no executive power and his only the voice of the EU council aka the member states. He also isn't responsible for UK politicians and their national power struggle.
 
The British don't want to be a hostage to fortune, so they want the backstop removed, or at least time limited, neither of which the Irish want or will agree with; so Tusk's reputation is going down the pan, the UK left the EU on his watch!

Four times and counting. Why is Tusk's reputation going down the pan. The Uk are leaving, it's the UK's choice. Tusk can't control the decisions of the British electorate.
 
Only by those who are willfully ignorant as to what the actual consequences are.
...and those who have been force-fed Brexit by the media every day for two years-plus; they're understandably bored with it.
 
Idiotic, emotional reactions like this (combined with ignoring the facts) is why the UK is in this mess.

 
Idiotic, emotional reactions like this (combined with ignoring the facts) is why the UK is in this mess.



In fairness who isn't laughing at the UK at this point? The UK government's handling of Brexit from its very inception has been objectively very funny, albeit in a rather grim way.
 
Idiotic, emotional reactions like this (combined with ignoring the facts) is why the UK is in this mess.


But surely getting the battle of Britain, 2 World Wars and 1 World Cup, Stiff upper Lip spirit going again will see you through the hardship of Brexit...................seriously wtf