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This is usually the way. Especially the French. C'est la vie etc. No information for the people of France. Just the stupid Brits being stupid.
Then when their fishermen are run out of UK waters by patrol boats following a hard Brexit they'll suddenly be up in arms about it.
Ford is planning on moving it's plants if a no deal Brexit happens - https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-b...tive-production-sites-the-times-idUKKCN1Q12SK
That sounds like a headline in The Sun alright.
@Jippy thinks it’s a skill to write Sun style headlines. I reckon it’s piss easy
“Foreigners feck off back home - UK rejoices”
I’m planning on moving plants in the event of no deal
From the kitchen to the porch maybe
From the kitchen to the porch maybe
The point is the whole of the UK will be affected by Brexit, a small portion of the other countries in the EU will be affected , some won't be affected at all.
We're back to the 'they need us more than we need them' - it really is not true.
Why do you make things up and act as if you knew anything. There is a plan for fishermen and money has already been allocated for them. Also no one in the media or politics calls the Brits stupid.
That is not what I said. You can't have a net contributor of the size of the UK drop out of your organisation with minimal effect. The French should be made aware of this and you say that's not happening.
If it isn't said expressly it is implied all the bloody time by media and by politicians. My point is that if the French are just trundling along with no mind as to what is happening then I think Stanley is right and they are in for a surprise.
Nothing is implied concerning Brits. And the UK do not represent a large part of our economy, from the beginning the idea has been to plan for a hard brexit and from that point there is nothing discuss, if there is a deal it's better otherwise we planned for no deal.
''Brex-Fit - new study says food shortages after Brexit could lead to record weight loss levels among Brits''
We're talking about two different things.
The Uk is a net contributor in fees , which is made such a big thing of but is peanuts in reality.
What actually affects the countries themselves is the trade , eg 10% of NL's trade is with the UK , that's why it will affect the NL more than most whereas France's trade with the UK is 7%.
Certain sectors will be hit, of course people are aware, but most people won't be affected at all.
Fine.
So the UK leaving is no big deal?
A no deal is a big deal because it messes up supply chains but the UK leaving with a deal is just an inconvenience for most countries.
Nowhere near as much as it is for the UK. Roughly half of the Uk's trade will be affected whereas only a small fraction of each of the EU's countries will be affected, Ireland and NL the most whereas some have no trade at all with the UK.
No-one outside the UK is talking of stockpiling food or medicine, no-one needs to.
If there is a no deal and supply chains are affected then those manufacturing plants will gradually move to mainland Europe but the average person will not be affected at all.
Why? Do you really think they're going to rush to insist their politicians cut a great deal for the UK as a result? If my neighbour was about to knock his house down and build a shanty in its place, I'd be annoyed by the dust and potential for my own house price to drop, but I sure as feck wouldn't be rushing to offer to help pay for the bulldozer.
The UK has been acting like a demented idiot child for over 2 years now, and it's about time people realized that has consequences. We've already cost the other European countries tens of millions in having to plan for a no-deal they never asked for, and if we crash out we'll cost them a shitload more. That's money they want to be spending on things like health and pensions and policing, not dealing with a British temper tantrum. Don't think for one second that they won't be fecking angry about that.
“Windass lets rip at Exeter” was a personal favorite of mineThere are some classics.
Nope. But the argument here is that Brexit isn't an issue in France. Nobody talks about it. Fait accomplis. We're preparing for no deal. Bye bye Britain. The French didn't want the UK in the EU in the first place. And now they are the member that least wants the UK to change it's mind. They see an upside to this which they obviously think will more than compensate for any no-deal prep costs. That is why Macron is paying hard-ball. So no I don't buy this Britain has kicked us all in the bollocks crap - especially when it comes to France.
You are assuming a lot here, De Gaulle was against the UK joining but the man is dead a long time ago and he doesn't represent France today. In France the situation is simple, the UK is a sovereign country that chose to leave the EU, it's your choice and we respect it, there is nothing to discuss about. If you chose to stay we will respect it too.
The childish ones are the best.Reverse the situation. Imagine France was the one about to cost Britain hundreds of millions of pounds for no reason (from the British perspective). Now imagine what the headlines would look like in the Sun etc, and what the average bloke down the pub might have to say about it.
They should though, we are. Or rather, just slightly over 50%, of those who expressed a preference, are.
Everyone in Ireland is calling the Brits stupid, to be fair
Yeah, where do you think British bacon comes from?
Haven't they always?
Already being discussed in Holland mate
Do you only get your medicine from the UK then?
Edit: just checked 13% from the UK
There's about 50 types of medicine left on a list of 2700 medicines deemed 'critical for maintaining national health', for which there's no alternative supplier yet. The UK is also a big supplier of pacemakers for the Netherlands.
No stockpiling has been mentioned as an option. In fact the health minister is a bit strange on that one because he said that they are looking at three alternatives, produce the goods on the continent, import them from an other country or temporary allow UK medical imports.
Used to be the other way round
Yeah but that was just so they can make themselves feel superior. Land of saints and scholars motherfeckers
Point is, they can source medicines easily from 26 other countries in Europe (although realistically France & Germany would take up the 'slack').
The UK can also source medicines from many other countries, but how easily?
What a monumental cnut this woman is.
"Yvonne Stone, 62, is one of the younger members of the club and tells me she voted for Brexit: "I've been here for three years and have no plans to go back to the UK - but it will depend on what happens.
"When I voted to leave I didn't think it would change anything for my rights to live here. We like it here and we don't want to go back but if I don't get my pension we might not have a choice.""
She emigrated to Spain 3 years ago, has no intentions of coming back, yet decided to vote leave. I almost hope no deal does happen and fecks her over.
"Yvonne Stone, 62, is one of the younger members of the club and tells me she voted for Brexit: "I've been here for three years and have no plans to go back to the UK - but it will depend on what happens.
"When I voted to leave I didn't think it would change anything for my rights to live here. We like it here and we don't want to go back but if I don't get my pension we might not have a choice.""
She emigrated to Spain 3 years ago, has no intentions of coming back, yet decided to vote leave. I almost hope no deal does happen and fecks her over.
The British government is giving no one another option, including their own citizens. Truth be told, European business would love to prepare and be ready for when brexit happens, for whatever fashion it happens, but no one knows.
No one knows because the UK government doesn't know. We are waiting, we've been waiting, we'll be waiting. But up until that point when the UK decides what the actual feck it wants to do, and how, and tells someone, there's very little anyone can do other than quarantine all business related to Britain.
A50 is written into the Treaty. No-deal would inevitably be the default method of leaving. If the EU doesn't like the impact of a country potentially triggering A50 then the EU lawyers should have built safeguards in.
Lets face it. It is a 'You can leave if you really want to, but we know you won't want to' clause.
Much as I didn't want to leave, you can't blame the UK because they've chosen to and others have had to spend money to mitigate it.
Who is blaming the UK for leaving? At worst other member states are fed up with the UK's indecision but not for leaving. Also art.50 is irrelevant, you keep using it for absolutely no good reason, a country can secede however he wants, there are zero safeguards possible.