Champions League Round of 16 (12th Feb - 13th Mar)

I'm convinced that James/Martinez/Thiago is the most solid midfield we can field this season. They made it possible for Hummels and Süle not to be overwhelmed.
I‘d prefer Goretzka to James. The latter offered nothing today.
 
They rely on Messi in attack because they want to, not because they need to.

Subbed off a 130 million forward for a 140 million forward tonight.

Umtiti, Vidal, Aleña and Coutinho on the bench... The squad is the last of their problems.

Who are you going to rely on?

Suarez? He's a fumbling mess out there. Coutinho? He's neither a winger nor a central midfielder. Dembele's the only player in their attack who can conjure up something besides Messi.

Are we going to use the cost of players to judge their quality now? It means nothing.

Vidal is finished. He's not a good player anymore. Imagine citing him as a positive.
 
Haven't missed a game. Maybe you just don’t watch the other strikers play.

There isn’t one single striker in world football right now that’s a clearly better player than Suarez.

Just like last season you were certain Suarez was being replaced and I guaranteed you there was no chance that was happening, I guarantee you the Barca board will agree with me and Luis Suarez will be Barcelona’s starting striker next season
Are you joking? Kane, Aguero, Lewandowski, Benzema and hell even the likes of Rashford, Laca, Auba are better than him.
 
I'm convinced that James/Martinez/Thiago is the most solid midfield we can field this season. They made it possible for Hummels and Süle not to be overwhelmed.
Wasn't really impressed by James. The game passed him by and he couldve done more from attacking midfield to help unlock the Liverpool defence. If you solve this I think you will progress in the 2nd leg. Theyre not good away in Europe.
 
Wow the team that should have been pounded 4-0 are now favourites. You should replace Hargreaves in the BT studio. :)
We will see what the odds are for the game, but I think Bayern will play a lot better than they did tonight.
 
Who are you going to rely on?

Suarez? He's a fumbling mess out there. Coutinho? He's neither a winger nor a central midfielder. Dembele's the only player in their attack who can conjure up something besides Messi.

Are we going to use the cost of player to judge their quality now? It means nothing.

Vidal is finished. He's not a good player anymore. Imagine citing him as a positive.
If the fellow thinks Suarez is the best #9 in the world I think arguing with him is a bit pointless.
 
If the fellow thinks Suarez is the best #9 in the world I think arguing with him is a bit pointless.

Messi has carried Suarez for 2 seasons now.

But he won't mention that.

Suarez is nowhere near the player he was in 2015-2016. When he was actually the best #9 in the world.
 
Aguero, Kane and Cavani.

Others more arguably.

Cavani... the same Cavani that’s clearly second best everytime they play in a Uruguay shirt? If you think Suarez is subpar technically and that he breaks down attacks then how come Cavani is a top striker?

Lewandowski is a clearly better striker than Cavani.

I’ll give you Kane and Aguero on current form.
 
Bayern focused on defence and were happy with the draw believing in their strength at home. Martinez was MOTM in my opinion.

Still Liverpool missed some great chances (although not a 100%er).

I'd say it's a 50/50 right now. Van Dijk will be back. Bayern will miss Kimich.

Still a very interesting 0:0
 
Cavani... the same Cavani that’s clearly second best everytime they play in a Uruguay shirt? If you think Suarez is subpar technically and that he breaks down attacks then how come Cavani is a top striker?

Lewandowski is a clearly better striker than Cavani.

I’ll give you Kane and Aguero on current form.

To be honest Cavani was a bad nominee. Scratch him.

Kane and Aguero are definitely better players than Suarez now. Not even just a current form thing.
 
Messi has carried Suarez for 2 seasons now.

But he won't mention that.

Suarez is nowhere near the player he was in 2015-2016. When he was actually the best #9 in the world.

2015/16 he was outscoring Messi and Ronaldo, no shit he isn’t as good as that. That was beyond incredible.

Doesn’t need to be half as good to be up there with the best strikers in the world today.

Which is something you just agreed with. You tell me there are 3 better strikers than Suarez at best in world football and then tell me Messi has been carrying him for 2 years. Wtf
 
2015/16 he was outscoring Messi and Ronaldo, no shit he isn’t as good as that.

Doesn’t need to be half as good to be up there with the best strikers in the world.

Which is something you just agreed with. You tell me there are 3 better strikers than Suarez at best in world football and then tell me Messi has been carrying him for 2 years. Wtf

You called him the best #9 in the world. He clearly isn't. Not anymore.

Messi has been elevating his performances for a while now. It's obvious when you watch them.
 
Vidal is finished. He's not a good player anymore. Imagine citing him as a positive.

Either you’re the absolute best in the world at your position, or you’re shit as soon as you got Messi as a teammate...

Having Arturo Vidal as a bench option is fantastic. Even if he’s nowhere near as good as he once was.

He’d be a starter for teams like Juventus or Liverpool ffs
 
Cavani... the same Cavani that’s clearly second best everytime they play in a Uruguay shirt? If you think Suarez is subpar technically and that he breaks down attacks then how come Cavani is a top striker?

Lewandowski is a clearly better striker than Cavani.

I’ll give you Kane and Aguero on current form.

I think you should be comparing 2019 Suarez to those players not 2016 Suarez.
 
Either you’re the absolute best in the world at your position, or you’re shit as soon as you got Messi as a teammate...

Having Arturo Vidal as a bench option is fantastic. Even if he’s nowhere near as good as he once was.

He’d be a starter for teams like Juventus or Liverpool ffs

Is there any player at Barcelona who is clearly not the best in their position?
 
Either you’re the absolute best in the world at your position, or you’re shit as soon as you got Messi as a teammate...

Having Arturo Vidal as a bench option is fantastic. Even if he’s nowhere near as good as he once was.

He’d be a starter for teams like Juventus or Liverpool ffs

Vidal a starter?

Are you having a laugh? Are we watching the same Arturo Vidal? He's finished as a top player.

He wouldn't be a starter for any top team in Europe.
 
Messi has carried Suarez for 2 seasons now.

But he won't mention that.

Suarez is nowhere near the player he was in 2015-2016. When he was actually the best #9 in the world.
I really didn't know he had an anti Messi agenda behind his bewildering support for Suarez but I guess it does make sense. I doubt you'd get more than 5 posters on here who would think Suarez is Top 5 also in the world if they actually watched him instead of looking at numbers.
 
I think you should be comparing 2019 Suarez to those players not 2016 Suarez.

2015/16 Suarez shits on any forward playing today... at least 2 levels above, that was an historically great season that stacks up against any other great striker in football history. This Suarez doesn’t but he’s definitely still up there for sure.

If he was playing for Bayern or PSG and Lewandowski/Cavani was playing for Barcelona I guarantee you the people criticizing Suarez would be criticizing Lewa/Cavani exactly the same way.
 
Vidal a starter?

Are you having a laugh? Are we watching the same Arturo Vidal? He's finished as a top player.

He wouldn't be a starter for any top team in Europe.
I really don't think he watches Barca as much as he claims if he's making the claims he's making or he really does have an agenda against Messi :lol:
Vidal has been a decent squad option and nothing more than that.
 
Either you’re the absolute best in the world at your position, or you’re shit as soon as you got Messi as a teammate...

Having Arturo Vidal as a bench option is fantastic. Even if he’s nowhere near as good as he once was.

He’d be a starter for teams like Juventus or Liverpool ffs
Current version of Vidal as a starter are you mad? He’s close to hanging up his boots.
 
Vidal a starter?

Are you having a laugh? Are we watching the same Arturo Vidal? He's finished as a top player.

He wouldn't be a starter for any top team in Europe.

Ahead of Henderson and Sami fecking Khedira?????

You’re bonkers. It’s not even a contest
 
2015/16 Suarez shits on any forward playing today... at least 2 levels above, that was an historically great season that stacks up against any other great striker in football history. This Suarez doesn’t but he’s definitely still up there for sure.

If he was playing for Bayern or PSG and Lewandowski/Cavani was playing for Barcelona I guarantee you the people criticizing Suarez would be criticizing Lewa/Cavani exactly the same way.
Last time I saw, none of the other top strikers in the world struggle to make 2 yard passes, have zero ball control, miss 19 clear goal scoring chances by the end of December.
 
No. The lineup presented itself because of injuries and suspension, and we had no plan apart from hanging on for dear life.
I think your attacking plan was non-existent, but i don't know how much of that is down to key players having off days (Coman, James) or Kovač not being good enough?

I haven't been following Bayern this season so i'm not sure.

I thought you were let down a few times in promising positions. Mostly on breaks when Coman or Gnabry got the ball. On another day, who knows what happens...
 
Why are you laughing. I don't get it. I thought Bayern played well all things considered.

You don't think so?

No, I don't think so. They defended their box well but still allowed enough chances for Liverpool to win the game while offering nothing going forward. Don't think 0-0 is such a great result either. With Liverpool fielding centre backs #4 and #5 getting an away goal really should have been their priority.
 
Last time I saw, none of the other top strikers in the world struggle to make 2 yard passes, have zero ball control, miss 19 clear goal scoring chances by the end of December.

I don’t see Cavani, Lewandowski, Firmino, Benzema, Morata, Diego Costa, etc. having all out of the output Suarez has, his energy off the ball, his ability on the ball and being able to destroy a top team like Real Madrid with an hattrick and a 10/10 performance like Suarez did earlier in the season. Was Messi carrying him from the stands in that one too?

Spent the summer shitting on every Argentinian player alive, now it’s back to Barcelona.

God forbids Messi actually leaves to a normal team one of these days. He either has the best team that has ever been assembled in the history of the sport or it’s not good enough for you guys.
 
No, I don't think so. They defended their box well but still allowed enough chances for Liverpool to win the game while offering nothing going forward. Don't think 0-0 is such a great result either.
What did you expect? Of course Liverpool are going to create a chance or too, they were hardly clear cut too. So i think Bayern done their job well tonight.

I thought Gnabry, Coman & James were individually poor tonight. Harsh to pin that on Kovač when the key creative outlets perform so poorly.

Obviously they would have preferred an away goal but i still back them to go through.
 
2015/16 Suarez shits on any forward playing today... at least 2 levels above, that was an historically great season that stacks up against any other great striker in football history. This Suarez doesn’t but he’s definitely still up there for sure.

If he was playing for Bayern or PSG and Lewandowski/Cavani was playing for Barcelona I guarantee you the people criticizing Suarez would be criticizing Lewa/Cavani exactly the same way.

2015–16 Suarez was very good indeed but I don’t think he was ‘two levels above everyone else’ and I wouldn’t really have him as the best in the history of universe like you seem to have.

Current Suarez barely deserves to be starting.
 
I don’t see Cavani, Lewandowski, Firmino, Benzema, Morata, Diego Costa, etc. having all out of the output Suarez has, his energy off the ball, his ability on the ball and being able to destroy a top team like Real Madrid with an hattrick and a 10/10 performance like Suarez did earlier in the season. Was Messi carrying him from the stands in that one too?

Spent the summer shitting on every Argentinian player alive, now it’s back to Barcelona.

God forbids Messi actually leaves to a normal team one of these days. He either has the best team that has ever been assembled in the history of the sport or it’s not good enough for you guys.
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Okay your views on Suarez and Barcelona players suddenly make a lot of sense.
 
I really don't think he watches Barca as much as he claims if he's making the claims he's making or he really does have an agenda against Messi :lol:
Vidal has been a decent squad option and nothing more than that.

I think he has stopped watching them a while ago. It’s not possible to follow them in 2019 and have these views.
 
2015–16 Suarez was very good indeed but I don’t think he was ‘two levels above everyone else’ and I wouldn’t really have him as the best in the history of universe like you seem to have.

Current Suarez barely deserves to be starting.
The only reason he starts is because the alternative is KPB :lol:
 
Luis Suarez; where attacks come to die. His technical ability never cease to amaze me, random RedCafe user can’t be much worse.

Decent away game from Barca but Lyon where very underwhelming, to say the least. Barca will probably win at the Camp Nou and get a absolute hammering in the quarters, no matter what team they draw.
 
The only reason he starts is because the alternative is KPB :lol:

Yeah. He still has his moments but is not really that good anymore and breaks up too many of their attacks. They will probably be looking to replace him come June.
 
Yeah. He still has his moments but is not really that good anymore and breaks up too many of their attacks. They will probably be looking to replace him come June.
This has been due for the past 2 years but I just don't see it happening while Messi and he are still great friends. However, off late, it's noticeable that even Messi seems to be avoiding passing to Suarez. He's way way past his expiry date and we'll see he won't find him many takers if he's put up for sale.
 
Malcom was the best player in the Clasico and hasn't had a minute since. Weird manager.