Do Real fans wishing for Poch really know what they would be getting? He is not the type of manager for that club.
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Fair enough.
Top players won't work for him, so Madrid's 'buy the best' model will be destroyed.
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Has Mourinho been paid up for his severance package at United or is it one of those deals that he gets paid until he gets another job? Like AVB got at Chelsea.
In the league during Ronaldo's time it was 12 wins for Barcelona, 4 draws, 4 wins for Madrid. Which is still quite terrible. Madrid did better in the Copa del Rey.
Madrid got Mourinho at the peak of his powers and yet it still ended with him losing the dressing room and losing to Atletico at home in the cup final.
Now they're getting a Mourinho that has lost another 2 dressing rooms, been sacked twice and shown he is completely unwilling or incapable of adapting his methods to modern football.
They're getting an inferior version of the Mourinho that didn't work the first time anyway. It's very odd.
Now they're getting a Mourinho that has lost another 2 dressing rooms, been sacked twice and shown he is completely unwilling or incapable of adapting his methods to modern football.
They're getting an inferior version of the Mourinho that didn't work the first time anyway. It's very odd.
You gotta feel for the young lads in that Madrid team if they hire Jose. Their development will stop instantly.
If I were them, the moment they hire him, I'd hand in a transfer request.
If I were them, the moment they hire him, I'd hand in a transfer request.
When Ramos doesn’t play Madrid are a disaster defense I felt. They nearly choked to Juventus last year in the second leg when Ramos doesn’t play. Madrid were never elite defensively but without Ramos it isn’t even close. Ronaldo was fantastic in getting them to the CL finals where Bale and Ramos shined the brightest but Ramos was always the heart and soul of that team.
Madrid scores 3 goals on a two legged tie, normally that would be enough even though yes, they were wasteful.
They only conceded one goal in the first leg when Ramos played and 4 when he didn’t in this tie.
Hell, they even hit the post twice yesterday.
10 wins for Barca, not 12. He was there 9 years, so only 18 games
Hard to tell, but Madrid are not really known for signing big name managers, surprisingly.
Their two most successful managers from the last 2 decades were Del Bosque and Zidane.
While the biggest names were Capello, Ancelotti and Mourinho.
The problem and culprit of all of this is one person - Florentino Perez.
Fans saw the results of a season as a direct result of what he was doing at the moment but the truth is the success that happened from 2014 to 2018 came from his good management from 2009 to 2014. Since then he’s done next to nothing to contribute positively to the success they had on a football point of view and it’s showing now. There were people who had been criticizing him for years but when you’re winning CL after CL it’s easy for the criticism to be dismissed.
Bad managerial choices, not renewing with players who should have stayed, missing obvious transfer targets, etc. so many mistakes. His biggest mistake was letting his ego take over and start worrying about his legacy and the Santiago Bernabeu comparisons over the success of the club. He put himself over the club.
Winning with a star player he didn’t sign was good but not good enough. He wanted to win with his signings, playing a certain way, with as many spanish players as possible, wanted to renew a stadium that doesn’t need renewing, sign a star player of his own (Neymar)... and instead of letting the winning cycle continue he destroyed it to attempt to start a new one without the humility to realize how tough that task is.
He either turns this around fast or he needs to go.
Fans saw the results of a season as a direct result of what he was doing at the moment but the truth is the success that happened from 2014 to 2018 came from his good management from 2009 to 2014. Since then he’s done next to nothing to contribute positively to the success they had on a football point of view and it’s showing now. There were people who had been criticizing him for years but when you’re winning CL after CL it’s easy for the criticism to be dismissed.
Bad managerial choices, not renewing with players who should have stayed, missing obvious transfer targets, etc. so many mistakes. His biggest mistake was letting his ego take over and start worrying about his legacy and the Santiago Bernabeu comparisons over the success of the club. He put himself over the club.
Winning with a star player he didn’t sign was good but not good enough. He wanted to win with his signings, playing a certain way, with as many spanish players as possible, wanted to renew a stadium that doesn’t need renewing, sign a star player of his own (Neymar)... and instead of letting the winning cycle continue he destroyed it to attempt to start a new one without the humility to realize how tough that task is.
He either turns this around fast or he needs to go.
The irony: the manager who routinely treats clubs as stopgaps before he moves to more prestigious clubs...now may be viewed as a stopgap by Real Madrid.
Solari sentenced. Mourinho warming up.
Real can get Pochettino if they want. Makes zero sense to go after retreat Mourinho.
Oh yeah, right, I counted this season's games, too, for some reason.
Mourinho just gave an interview clearly flirting with the idea of going there.
Says there’s been no contact at all as of now but that he felt pride that fans chanted his name after the game.
Says there’s been no contact at all as of now but that he felt pride that fans chanted his name after the game.
I absolutely agree with the gist of your post, but Ronaldo was signed by Perez right? I believe it was Calderon Ferguson wouldn’t «sell a virus».
Jose seems like a good fit to me. Poch couldn’t cope with Madrid I feel.
Just when Real fans think they've had enough, in steps Jose.
Ronaldo was Calderon’s signing although Perez was president by the day he got signed.
Calderon teed it up and Perez got to smash it home, in other words?
Its weird when you look at the options available.
Poch seems to have that underdog mentality (which some see as a loser mentality). He seems ok with losing and not competing for all trophies.
Jose is defo not the same Jose as when he went to Madrid first time. (Are there still players who he fell out with first time?)
Guardiola will never go there.
I dont see Klopp going there right now.
Would Tuchel leave PSG now? (imagine him and Mbappe at the same time).
There are many '#top' names that seem Madrid suited unless they go for somebody younger or try another ex player.
This call was spot on.
This call turned out to be very wrong
I didn't think he'd actually step up a gear either tbh but damn he's playing well.To be fair to Jose he can talk his way into most jobs in football and Madrid,again,is no exception.
Madrid offered Zidane to come back but 'Zizou' asked to wait until June.
Goal for this season: Staying ahead of Getafe and Alaves.
This would be the best option to get Zidane back.
But Perez needs to give him some more power regarding transfers.
Maybe waiting to see how things turn out with Allegri at Juve?
Would be weird for him to return 1 year later after deciding to leave and the fans would demand a proper explanation that they didn’t really get last time around.
Even worse is Atletico in 2nd with supposedly better players & a worse goals scored per game.
You mean Fellaini will be recalled from his Chinese holiday.
Lovely to see how much stick OP got for this thread when he was absolutely spot on and with a little football knowledge you could see it even before the season started. They are old and tired, and their front three isn't even better than ours. They have so much to do now. Varane is the only key player who isn't over 30. With that said, I struggle to name key players. They just lack prolific players right now. Benzema (who is abysmal right now) is their main striker and he's flanked by some kids and people thought they could win the league and CL
Even if Mourinho doesn't end up back there, he will say he was the offered job and turned it down. The way Real are just now, in need of a major rebuild, I think he would be a nightmare for them just now.
At a time where they need a bit of solidarity, his outdated divide and rule style would probably make things even worse. I think they need someone to come in a bit like OGS has at United and bring a bit of a feelgood factor back.
At a time where they need a bit of solidarity, his outdated divide and rule style would probably make things even worse. I think they need someone to come in a bit like OGS has at United and bring a bit of a feelgood factor back.
How do you feel about a potential comeback? Even though he could have a good reason to resign, isn't there a part of you that feels betrayed/abandoned?
I would be very happy. I didn´t feel betrayed. I think he was honest and perhaps he gave up hastily because after everything he had achieved he had not managed to draw the signings and strategy of the club.
The season of Madrid itself is the explanation. A stubborn president who did not want to invest.
That can be easily solved. In any case, I do not think it will take a long time to announce unofficially the coach is.