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So in fact the government have no mandate to leave the EEA - just as well Leavers knew what they were voting for.

They have a mandate to leave the EEA, that's part of their normal power but the referendum didn't gave them a specific popular mandate on EEA, it was on the EU.
 
The EU doesn't lead the UK anywhere. The UK is part of the EU and lead itself wherever it wants by either influencing the EU's routs or by opting out of new treaties if it wants to. Your question is the same as asking if the UK will lead itself to great prosperity up to at least 2100?

Things change a lot in 80 years.
Just think 80 years ago there was some RW fascists who brainwashed their people ....
 
Have you a roadmap of how the EU will take Britain to continued prosperity until at least 2100 please? As i've not seen one presented

I'd also be interested in how that roadmap to a utopian existence will address the problem of discrimination against ethnic groups and the use of racial based terminology in everyday language. As an example, using a term such as 'White Crusaders' to describe a perceived negative issue of western/ European people offering charity to deprived areas of Africa, even though such a 'problem' could be conducted by people of multiple ethnicities

Kinel.
 
And you have bundles of evidence to show how the EU will lead Britain to great prosperity up to at least 2100?

I look forward to you posting it

You are are the one making the claim. Prove it.
 
Quality control
You never answer any of the points raised, which is typical of all leavers and throw empty insults around. You have no answers.

Bias is getting in the way of your judgement. Let me run you through the steps

-I stated my belief and a few factors why I believe that being outside the EU was better long term
- that 'evidence' was questioned (fair enough)
- I then ask for the evidence of the opposing view, namely the EU bringing prosperity to 2100
- I was told to provide evidence of the above point, even though I'm not claiming it
- I made the comment on 'comprehension' based on the above point

Does that help chief?
 
Order, Order, Point of Order!!

Instead of focussing on the referendum , shouldn't some legal expert team prevent the government leaving under false pretences.

Leavers have not actually voted to stop FoM or leaving the Single Market. The government only have a mandate to leave the EU. Not the same thing.

If only the government had a party in opposition and one who had some brains.

That is, to me the most frustrating thing. Labour and the people running the party seem completely impotent to take the lead as the opposition and offer a genuine alternative.
And I say this as a traditional Labour supporter.
 
Bias is getting in the way of your judgement. Let me run you through the steps

-I stated my belief and a few factors why I believe that being outside the EU was better long term
- that 'evidence' was questioned (fair enough)
- I then ask for the evidence of the opposing view, namely the EU bringing prosperity to 2100
- I was told to provide evidence of the above point, even though I'm not claiming it
- I made the comment on 'comprehension' based on the above point

Does that help chief?

You provided absolutely nothing.

The EU doesn't reduce democracy in the UK and leaving won't increase it. And then you talk about syncing the UK's economy with large and rapidly growing economies that are supposed not be protectionist.
Who are these economies? I hope that you are not talking about China or India because they are very much protectionist.
 
Bias is getting in the way of your judgement. Let me run you through the steps

-I stated my belief and a few factors why I believe that being outside the EU was better long term
- that 'evidence' was questioned (fair enough)
- I then ask for the evidence of the opposing view, namely the EU bringing prosperity to 2100
- I was told to provide evidence of the above point, even though I'm not claiming it
- I made the comment on 'comprehension' based on the above point

Does that help chief?

Why do you keep saying that people are biased if they disagree with you - you did it to the American who is just an observer, like me and many others, we have plenty of other nationalities in here who you disagree with and even though I'm British born Brexit isn't going to affect me.
It is a fascinating topic of how gullible people have been influenced.

No-one can possibly project so far ahead. The world is changing continuously.
If you can foresee what state the UK will be in within five years if they leave with no deal, this would be more interesting

Expecting to be able to sell an increased volume of whatever to emerging economies over the next 80 years when in all likelihood the British manufacturing base will disappear within five or ten years if they leave the EU is rather stretching it.

I wasn't talking just about that one point but many that have been raised by other posters over the last few pages.
 
Bias is getting in the way of your judgement. Let me run you through the steps

-I stated my belief and a few factors why I believe that being outside the EU was better long term
- that 'evidence' was questioned (fair enough)
- I then ask for the evidence of the opposing view, namely the EU bringing prosperity to 2100
- I was told to provide evidence of the above point, even though I'm not claiming it
- I made the comment on 'comprehension' based on the above point

Does that help chief?

I’ve only quoted this one post, but you have several accusing others of being biased and being sheep. Of lacking critical thinking. You’ve been utterly indoctrinated, everything you’re accusing others of is everything you are.
 
This changes week by week ,but at the moment i feel this will go to a extension then a new referendum.
 
It makes sense as long as you work on the basis Corbyn really does not want a second referendum... 3 months isn't long enough for one so it let's him carry on saying bad deal and pretend there is somehow a majority for his particular brand of unicorns
Yes. Whenever Corbyn or McDonnell are asked whether they want a second referendum they always answer with 'I want what was decided at the Labour party conference', they never say they themselves want one. And for those that remember that conference we know they didn't want a second referendum to be debated there in the first place. Why would they want a second referendum when they're lifelong Leavers?
 
I do.

But we have a parliament half full of incompetent children who can’t be bothered to deal with serious issues, and half full of lying malevolent shits who won’t listen to any reason.

Sure there is people like you. But @foolsgold decide to disappear in front of the question. I have an idea why
 
This changes week by week ,but at the moment i feel this will go to a extension then a new referendum.
I hope bloody not. Here is me hoping, that some tiny country like Slovenia will block the extension. There has been enough time for a decision. The picture will not become more clear in three months.
 
You lie, you're lie gets exposed and you pretend as if it's nothing. I hate these people so much.
 
I hope bloody not. Here is me hoping, that some tiny country like Slovenia will block the extension. There has been enough time for a decision. The picture will not become more clear in three months.
Same here. Unless the UK gives some major concession to make it worth it to the EU I don't see any reason to let this mess drag on another 3 months. You'd need to be an extreme optimist to believe another 3 months would change anything at this point. I think I've finally found some common ground with the brexiteers:"getonwitit".
 
You lie, you're lie gets exposed and you pretend as if it's nothing. I hate these people so much.


But if we don’t implement Brexit, people will lose trust in politicians....

What was she retweeting anyway - that lie about the Lisbon Treaty forcing us to adopt the euro?
 
But if we don’t implement Brexit, people will lose trust in politicians....

What was she retweeting anyway - that lie about the Lisbon Treaty forcing us to adopt the euro?

Yes exactly that. She's deleted it now but rather than apologise she's changed tack with that second tweet and is just retweeting people that agree with it.

She is an absolute weapon. Can't stand her or any of her ilk.
 
But if we don’t implement Brexit, people will lose trust in politicians....

What was she retweeting anyway - that lie about the Lisbon Treaty forcing us to adopt the euro?
Yes.
Its like saying today is Friday then following up by saying some agree that it's Friday and some do not. It's condescending.