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I'm sure Juncker said no existing member would stand in way of extension if Britain wanted to delay brexit. It can possibly be extended if there is election allowing people to vote.
Doubt any 'special reason' is needed other than more time to negotiate a proper contract or new election/referendum.
Edit: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...k-brexit-extension-juncker-says-idUSKCN1Q82DE
Just end this madness FS
An election or referendum sure. More time for May to keep asking the same question? Unlikely.
From Sky News...
Seems like if they're going to agree an extension, we have to agree on a reason why. Second Referendum or General Election. I personally think it'll be an election.
I think that a vote to take no deal off the table tomorrow will mean that the ERG will vote for May's deal when it is next tabled. Probably in the next couple of weeks.
Its already split in half, I'd rather it be split in half but not completely crippled thanks.
EU has this hope that in absence of a deal or alternate options, a new election/referendum would keep UK in EU. That would be their preferred solution.
So they will extend this time. Perhaps after new election/referendum, brexit still stands...then they won't extend anymore.
Again, we don't know and Juncker doesn't either it depends on the reason of the extension and whether EU members thinks that its a good reason.
That would be the best thing that could happen. Especially if it achieves an actually significant majority showing that the leavers no longer want it.
I think if they had to have the choice, it would be an election over a referendum.
They'd likely be under the impression that a referendum could cause more trouble than it's worth, and even if leave won again, we'd be no further in, because there would still be squabbles over the deal.
Under an election, the Conservatives can put their deal out, and Labour can put their alternative out. Lib Dems can continue to be as irrelevant as ever. If Conservatives get elected again, then they do so with the mandate of the people like our deal, we must approve it. Same with Labour. If it's a hung parliament again, well, we may as well just shut up shop and go home.
That's nobodies fault but their own, given that they were told every single day by everyone who knew anything about this that it would be anything but a clean break.
There is no guarantee...but the expectation is that an extension should sail smoothly with no issues.
Yes, the eternal hope is that people would ask again "why brexit?" as the old slogans have been proven to be lies. They should drag up the mop haired idiot in front of the big red bus with the lies and use that to oppose brexit.
Oh I agree. The whole thing was a massive clusterfeck, and should never have been put to a public vote to start with.
Thankfully a precedent for ignoring the results of a referendum wouldn't have been set for Farage, the ERG and co to demand a third one and another 3 years of this.
Like when Farage and co said they were going to push for a second referendum if remain won the first time? When they win a 2nd referendum is off the table but if they lose, then they want one?
This is pure genius!
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Would they really attract a majority for going through all this shit again?
To anybody in Britain: Hammer your leave friends with questions, ask your brexiteer family members what has come from 3 years of Brexit. Demand answers, be obnoxius, be intrusive, never mind manners.
The people responsible for this should at the very least feel the wrath of those fecked over by it. You won't change anything by being nice.
The people responsible for this should at the very least feel the wrath of those fecked over by it. You won't change anything by being nice.
Well I was making the assumption that Remain would win, which I certainly don't think is a done deal. If it did, I think it would depend on whether Farage decides leaving the EU or trying to get his party MPs in the Commons is the ultimate end goal.
Had a colleague tell me today how he convinced his brother to be in favor of no deal on the basis that beer would be cheaper because of zero import tariffs
He was chuffed with himself until I pointed out that we work in an industry that would probably be most adversely affected by tariff free imports.
Brexit Odds
So I make it 81% we will still be in the EU March 30th
So I make it 81% we will still be in the EU March 30th
Bring in James fecking May at this rate.
Can I post this
Nail on head again from Bush
Meaningful Vote
Meaningful Vote 2: Electric bogaloo
Meaningful Vote Forever
Meaningful Vote 2: Electric bogaloo
Meaningful Vote Forever
I'm wondering if May knows that eventually her deal will go through, hence why she doesn't seem too bothered.
Realistically, whats the chances of no deal being stopped? Unless we change the law stating that no deal is the default, then any amendment thats put forward really doesn't do much? I could be wrong there, but i'm sure i read a tweet saying most are useless. Coupled with May not wanting a general election and being unlikely to, and under no obligation to, sanction one, and knowing there is no majority for a second referendum, plus Corbyn doing his utmost to prevent it anyway, she knows the EU won't sanction an extension. She could leave it until late in the month to say they rejected our extension request, no deal remains the legal default and therefor i'll put my deal to the house again.
I imagine in that situation, there would be little to no option but to approve the deal, hence she gets what she wants. Then again, who knows whats going on in her head?
Realistically, whats the chances of no deal being stopped? Unless we change the law stating that no deal is the default, then any amendment thats put forward really doesn't do much? I could be wrong there, but i'm sure i read a tweet saying most are useless. Coupled with May not wanting a general election and being unlikely to, and under no obligation to, sanction one, and knowing there is no majority for a second referendum, plus Corbyn doing his utmost to prevent it anyway, she knows the EU won't sanction an extension. She could leave it until late in the month to say they rejected our extension request, no deal remains the legal default and therefor i'll put my deal to the house again.
I imagine in that situation, there would be little to no option but to approve the deal, hence she gets what she wants. Then again, who knows whats going on in her head?
What in tarnation is that?
Britain winning over Europe
At the very least they have to request for a 1-year transition period into this hard brexit. feck all is ready for the end of the month.
Laughing stock of the planet. I would enjoy this so much more if it wasnt fecking over my country.
Didn't someone say they favoured a long extension if there was to be one?
Is the bill tomorrow amendable
Ie could somebody tag on something like this house rejects no deal and the government will withdraw A50 if we reach 7 days till leaving with no extension or deal agreed?
Ie could somebody tag on something like this house rejects no deal and the government will withdraw A50 if we reach 7 days till leaving with no extension or deal agreed?
doesn't matter and can't affect A50, it's a motion not a bill, it's symbolic
Isn't Loise Mensch the one who was "pretty sure" Guilani would be executed for treason ?
?Louise Mensch has brain worms bro, if it's windier than she likes Putin's behind it