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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
So am I. So they don't want a No Deal, but they also don't want to extend the deadline, but they also rejected the final deal last night?
Do they think this is a game of fecking chicken and they expect the EU to swerve the way we want them to at the last moment? I know the entire Leave campaign was based on that fantasy bullshit, but come on...
They all are. They fight tooth and nail for the rights and welfare of their constituents. It's refreshing.
How much longer can Theresa May go on.
Yes, they, namely Nigel Dodds and Boris Johnson still think that the EU will come back and say here you go theres everything you want.
Yes, they, namely Nigel Dodds and Boris Johnson still think that the EU will come back and say here you go theres everything you want.
Well apart from Scottish independence but i do agree they're very good. Easy to do so in their position mind you
It was wasn't it. He almost sounded statesman like, especially when compared to Mrs May who is now taking it personally.
Don't really like him but well done Jeremy.
She's running out of people to fill seats in her cabinet.
the feck is going on over there. If this were a comedy film, I'd say it's over the top and a more subtle approach to humour would have been better.Damn you for getting that song stuck in my head Silva.
No. No deal is still the legal default.
You can always move...
Yes! Fascinating.
Quite correct.
Stephen Bush is
You'd definitely say that bit where she lost her voice was hammy and overdone.
Oh and lazy writing as we had already seen that gag in season 1.
Ken Clarke dropping some misogyny in there
Ken Clarke speaking, the original European - talking about the three-line whip and saying that in his opinion, the debate tomorrow should be about agreeing policy on extending Article 50, not expressing views. Bercow agrees.
But what way is that? It's still not clear what it is that the UK actually wants.
Leave him be, he's 78.
Can someone give me a summary please? Am I right in thinking MPs said we should leave only when there is some sort of deal?
They've said we definitely shouldn't leave without a deal, which might be slightly different.
So if EU27 doesn't agree on the extension, then because the parliament has voted for no-no deal, it would then mean May's deal will be voted on again?
Surely the ERG will come round to a deal. No way they risk a long delay, a long delay would likely result in a 2nd ref.
Meh. Everyone's very excited but I think this has still gone May's way as far as I can see. We'll ask for an extension, we won't get one, that will take the best part of a fortnight, and then there'll be a last-minute third vote on her withdrawal agreement. The more avenues that are closed off beforehand (deliberate no deal, extension etc) the more likely she'll get it through in the end.
it's going to be voted again regardless of anything else
There was no way that some of them would vote for no deal but wouldn't vote against the whip.
I think she's going to throw the dice one more time on her deal. At least sound the hard Brexiters out on it, warning it's that or possibly no Brexit at all.
'no second referendum, over my dead body'
interesting choice of words given that an MP was already killed over this fecking thing.
interesting choice of words given that an MP was already killed over this fecking thing.
Who said that?
Why won't we get one?
If EU doesn't unanimously agree to an extension am I right in thinking that one (fairly comical) option is for the UK to unilaterally revoke article 50, then immediately reinstate it so we can all enjoy another two years of this nonsense.
Yes... But even with the erg votes I'm not sure she can get her deal through...
Not sure dup will vote with her
And switching from a free to whipped vote I suspect she will have lost some of the more moderate conservative support for good as well
Brexiteer on Sky News, paraphrasing Tory backbenchers.
May might not actually be able to, it depends on whether she brings something different back and whether Bercow thinks it's substantially different. There's a thread above this, but I've quoted this tweet as it has the relevant bit of Erskine.
Because it would only take one country to object.
On what basis? Assuming we are requesting in good faith?
She didn't update the details of her statement to reflect the fact that she had effectively been defeated twice. Just another detail to the shambles.