Are these types of automatic rifles legal in NZ?
Mass Shooting in Christchurch, NZ Mosque | 14th March 2019
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Total terrorist outrage. People at their place of worship ffs.
RIP
I can't believe that this has happened in NZ.
I have been there a couple of times and have a lot of family members there
I spoke to my cousin this morning - the whole country is mortified.
It is without a doubt one of the friendliest welcoming places on the planet.
No place more so than Christchurch - it's a lovely place.
What with the earthquake in 2011 and now this, the people there must feel totally gutted.
Why preserve these monsters?
RIP
I can't believe that this has happened in NZ.
I have been there a couple of times and have a lot of family members there
I spoke to my cousin this morning - the whole country is mortified.
It is without a doubt one of the friendliest welcoming places on the planet.
No place more so than Christchurch - it's a lovely place.
What with the earthquake in 2011 and now this, the people there must feel totally gutted.
Why preserve these monsters?
our senate voting system is broken. Simple as that. He received 19 first-preference votes, but his initial party (One Nation Party, which he dumped on his first day in office), won enough to seat multiple senators.
Yeah same. The fact it has happened in NZ is very sickening. Don't get me wrong this kind of terrorism is sickening everywhere but you always associate security/peace with NZ.
I agree with monitoring, but this kind of behavior surely is easily fueled and escalated when you surround yourself with the group of people with same train of thought. If somehow their platform can be consistently removed, maybe it would make it harder for them to communicate thus can prevent such behavior in getting recognition and fueled by other cnuts.
Just woke up to this news.
F'king hell, the world is messed up. NZ is one of the places where one thought something like this doesn't happen.
Rest in peace.
We should stop acting as if MAGA/Far Right/Neonazis are any less dangerous than ISIS. They're the same.
F'king hell, the world is messed up. NZ is one of the places where one thought something like this doesn't happen
.Rest in peace.
We should stop acting as if MAGA/Far Right/Neonazis are any less dangerous than ISIS. They're the same.
It's a fecking disgrace that these white supremacist groups are not classified as terrorist groups and not given the same treatment as ISIS. They are as big of a death cult.
People who call this arsehole a shooter instead of a terrorist are scum.
People who call this arsehole a shooter instead of a terrorist are scum.
These things are so deflating, it's hard to handle the amount of hate in the world.
Trump and his ilk have a lot to answer for with their rhetoric.
Trump and his ilk have a lot to answer for with their rhetoric.
People who keep saying they can’t believe it’s happening in NZ are missing the point. The country isn’t just the fecking Shire, just like every other country there are the dregs and arguably they feel more isolated than anywhere else.
Just woke up to this news.
F'king hell, the world is messed up. NZ is one of the places where one thought something like this doesn't happen
Rest in peace.
We should stop acting as if MAGA/Far Right/Neonazis are any less dangerous than ISIS. They're the same.
I partly agree, wouldn't say they are as dangerous as ISIS but certainly anti-immigration and anti-muslim politicians need to brought out in the open and berated for their hateful lies and rhetoric which causes all of this. It's fecking disgraceful the sh*t they get away with saying without consequence when it leads to things like this.
Agree. Our (the Aussie) PM is a moron, but he at least called the shooter a terrorist.
New Zealand out of all places. Gun control should be a serious issue everywhere in the world.
Looks like the person arrested isn't even from NZ, which must be absolutely devastating for the people who live there and have to end up bearing the trauma for years.
THQ made a PR disaster but are no way responsible for the actions of a mass murdering white supremacist terrorist.
Can't we just put all these right wing terrorists and all the isis terrorists together on another planet and let them kill eachother whilst letting us decent folk live together in a civilised manner?
Just woke up to this news.
F'king hell, the world is messed up. NZ is one of the places where one thought something like this doesn't happen
Rest in peace.
We should stop acting as if MAGA/Far Right/Neonazis are any less dangerous than ISIS. They're the same.
I think there is a distinction to be made. One group believes that they are doing god's work, that they are ordained by god and that they have a right to do what they do.
I believe that the other group mostly does it because they are racist scumbags.
Just seen the video. Can't believe twitter haven't taken it down.
I visited NZ a few years back and was warned by locals that Christchurch was a depressing place to visit. Not because of the people, but because of the infrastucture following the earthquake was so basic. I was able to speak to a few people that had lost pretty much everything from that Earthquake as insurance is extremely difficult/impossible.
It's a beautiful country with a fantastic set of people but they have their own set of issues just like the rest of us. Racism was pretty high on that list.
Truly depressing for this to happen, love the country and its people. People need to take the rise of Right Wing seriously. We need to start having a hard long look at ourselves in light of attacks like this frankly. Action has to be taken and I include the UK as part of the problem.
In the UK they are.
All we know is that he is an Australian citizen but that doesn’t mean he didn’t live there and has for some time. It’s devastating regardless, I know someone from Christchurch and as @RedSky says it’s not rosy for sure.
That's a distinction without a difference.
He is, but it's not a contradiction, unfortunately. These things can only happen when insanity, political ideology, and practical rationality merge.
In the aftermath of the shooting this absolutely makes sense. It's the propaganda these bastards would want. But after a while it would be good to be able to openly discuss it, imo. This kind of ideology will not go away, it's better to be aware of it.
Maybe because he couldn't get access to the guns in his homeland?
I think it's a disgrace the media is avoiding his manifesto and all the people that have influenced him.
It's like saying a terrorist that has been inspired by a radical preacher has nothing to do with the preacher. I am so angry we are so scared of offending people that we can't say these right wingers are inspiring a bunch of terrorists.
It's like saying a terrorist that has been inspired by a radical preacher has nothing to do with the preacher. I am so angry we are so scared of offending people that we can't say these right wingers are inspiring a bunch of terrorists.
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That’s what I was wondering too.
White supremacists reckon that God's on their side too.
The likes of Tommy Robinson, Katie Hopkins and other anti Muslim 'celebrity' figures and all their thick apologists should be hanging their fecking heads in shame this morning but who am I kidding, these cnuts don't care. They're getting exactly what they want, violence against innocent Muslims. 49 lives lost. Devastating.
They are as bad as each other, I was just talking about motivations is all.
Yeah there’s a lot of Crusades bullshit to say the right wing extremists don’t have some religious influence.
Agreed. If the boot was on the other foot and a muslim cleric was preaching hate it would be all over the media.
He's an immigrant who is against other immigrants coming to what is a country of immigrants.
The "logic" of a white supremacist.
Yes this is true.
Though IMO ISIS is primarily motivated by what they believe that their god wants them to do, and the other is primarily motivated by racism.
I'm not saying one is better or worse, it was just a statement is all.
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https://www.sbs.com.au/news/who-is-the-australian-suspect-behind-the-new-zealand-terror-attack
An article that discusses, but does not directly quote his manifesto.
An article that discusses, but does not directly quote his manifesto.
White terrorists also believe they are saving the Caucasian race. There's no difference between the two.
The difference in social media and news network reactions when a mass shooter is a 'white person' as opposed to a Muslim is quite telling. The world is a fecked up place which cannot see beyond labels and colours.
Almost 50 dead. No matter who they were, they had lives and they had dreams. They laughed like we do, they cried like we do. Some of them must have left parentless children behind, some childless parents. The sorrow of this is not limited to a social media newscycle - the families affected will be traumatised and changed for the rest of their lives. If some of them can't deal with the loss, their issues will propagate to the next generation. Two hours changing the course of the next twenty years.
Every time I see the term 'thoughts and prayers' and I wonder - can we really give them that? If you genuinely thought about every victim of such a mass shooting, you'd be traumatised yourself. If you genuinely prayed to whichever God for every child shot in these incidents, half your day would be prayer. We are not equipped to deal with such an avalanche of loss and carnage.
And the thing is, we seem to be having these incidents at such an alarming rate, the long term dehumanizing consequences are going to be unprecedented and unpredictable.
NZ of all places. No corner of the world is being spared. I'm scared for my children, because of the world they will be born into.
Almost 50 dead. No matter who they were, they had lives and they had dreams. They laughed like we do, they cried like we do. Some of them must have left parentless children behind, some childless parents. The sorrow of this is not limited to a social media newscycle - the families affected will be traumatised and changed for the rest of their lives. If some of them can't deal with the loss, their issues will propagate to the next generation. Two hours changing the course of the next twenty years.
Every time I see the term 'thoughts and prayers' and I wonder - can we really give them that? If you genuinely thought about every victim of such a mass shooting, you'd be traumatised yourself. If you genuinely prayed to whichever God for every child shot in these incidents, half your day would be prayer. We are not equipped to deal with such an avalanche of loss and carnage.
And the thing is, we seem to be having these incidents at such an alarming rate, the long term dehumanizing consequences are going to be unprecedented and unpredictable.
NZ of all places. No corner of the world is being spared. I'm scared for my children, because of the world they will be born into.
Rise of right wing politics and hypernationalism will ruin this world much faster than religion ever managed to do. We're doomed.
Pathetic cnuts. It's easy to be brave when you're the only guy with a gun.
Horrible pricks
Horrible pricks
RIP to the deceased. My thoughts are with their families and those that are injured.
The world has gone mad. There is so much hate out there that it’s sickening.
The world has gone mad. There is so much hate out there that it’s sickening.
What the absolute feck.
Not sure man. They are an offshoot child of Nazi who caused more harm and pain than ISIS ever did, God help us all if they ever gain some type of power. Their ideology should be purged, the same as those of dead cult Islamist terrorism like ISIS or AQ.
Also, many of these acts are very religious related. Like Breivkin, this one was a christian terrorist.
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