Jeremy Corbyn - Not Not Labour Party(?), not a Communist (BBC)



And there it is, proof if it was ever needed that it's about Israel and not about antisemitism.


Yep. So many people turning a blind eye to the amount of pockets being stuffed by Israel in west minister.
 
It does hint at one of the problems that this current form of Labour would have in power though. When you're that close to the unions, you really have no choice but to say yes when they ask for improved terms for members, or you face accusations of hypocrisy.

But what happens if the unions start asking for improvements in terms that are completely OTT? Its not their role to worry about Government finances, its their role to campaign for their members, so Labour can hardly hope that they'll just be reasonable. In a weird way the unions are more of a threat to Labour than to the Tories. With the Tories, its a given that they'll be butting heads with the unions, no-one expects otherwise. But widespread action by the unions against the decisions of a Corbyn led Government? That could have all sorts of strange consequences.

Didn't the Unions bring the Labour Party to its knees in the 70s though?
 


And there it is, proof if it was ever needed that it's about Israel and not about antisemitism.


Hodge is in the contingent of people to ignore on this issue really. No reasonable person would ignore that some have weaponised the issue to attack Corbyn and she's one of those who did and continues to do so.

I still think that's happening but it doesn't mean there isn't underlying issues as well with the membership, just not to scale discussed.
 
Didn't the Unions bring the Labour Party to its knees in the 70s though?

Very much so. They wanted to keep public sector wages down to try and row in runaway inflation that at one point had reached 25% (!) but while the Unions played ball for a while, in the end they got tired of taking real term pay cuts year on year and we had the biggest run of strikes in 50 years. Given that Callaghan had been so close to the Unions his authority was fatally undermined.

Of course, his replacement was Thatcher, who was probably the worst thing to ever happen to the Unions in the UK, so maybe they'd be a bit more circumspect this time round. But i wouldnt bet on it.
 
Very much so. They wanted to keep public sector wages down to try and row in runaway inflation that at one point had reached 25% (!) but while the Unions played ball for a while, in the end they got tired of taking real term pay cuts year on year and we had the biggest run of strikes in 50 years. Given that Callaghan had been so close to the Unions his authority was fatally undermined.

Of course, his replacement was Thatcher, who was probably the worst thing to ever happen to the Unions in the UK, so maybe they'd be a bit more circumspect this time round. But i wouldnt bet on it.

The best thing that Thatcher did was break the stranglehold of the unions. I dare say that's not a particularly popular opinion round here though :D
 
Listen to yourselves. It's frankly pathetic.

Just seen the hate on twitter for the ehrc from labour supporters, very sad. In its role in pushing equality duty its been genuinely life changing for many minority groups. But now labour supporters want to tarnish its name for taking up what seems to be an issue well within its remit, seemingly because labour should be seen as above suspicion and hence the rules shouldn’t apply to them. Sad times.
 
What's pathetic is the whole Antisemitic onslaught on Corbyn.

There's some balance to be had. I'll absolutely agree that there's a tendency for even the slightest criticism of Israel to often be dismissed as anti-semitism. Similarly I think there's a solid argument that Labour's in-house issues (like this) get a ton more treatment than similar ones within the Tory party, who've shown in the last couple of years they have their own deep-rooted problems in need of addressing.

But there's no doubt that some of the rhetoric that's come from Labour and people involved has been problematic, and there's something fairly sinister when you're seeing lots of Labour members dismissing what seems to be a majority view of the Jewish community that there's a significant problem that needs to be tackled.
 
Just seen the hate on twitter for the ehrc from labour supporters, very sad. In its role in pushing equality duty its been genuinely life changing for many minority groups. But now labour supporters want to tarnish its name for taking up what seems to be an issue well within its remit, seemingly because labour should be seen as above suspicion and hence the rules shouldn’t apply to them. Sad times.

The far left and the far right are just two sides of the same coin. Stuff like this just shows it.
 
That this House is appalled, but barely surprised, at the revelations in M15 files regarding the bizarre and inhumane proposals to use pigeons as flying bombs; recognises the important and live-saving role of carrier pigeons in two world wars and wonders at the lack of gratitude towards these gentle creatures; and believes that humans represent the most obscene, perverted, cruel, uncivilised and lethal species ever to inhabit the planet and looks forward to the day when the inevitable asteroid slams into the earth and wipes them out thus giving nature the opportunity to start again.

Sponsored: Jeremy Corbyn, 2004

https://edm.parliament.uk/early-day-motion/24837
 


I'm sure we'll hear Fiona Bruce attacking a Conservative for how far behind they are in the polls.
 
The only way they think they can get in is by bribing the general public.

Why doesn't he make St George's Day a BH too? And what about the Welsh and Scottish ones?

Was the plan in the last election to make all the patron saints days into bank holidays. There’s a lot of evidence that it would improve our economy to have more bank holidays because people spend more on bank holidays and a few extra days off a year wouldn’t effect productivity.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-39682388
 
Was the plan in the last election to make all the patron saints days into bank holidays. There’s a lot of evidence that it would improve our economy to have more bank holidays because people spend more on bank holidays and a few extra days off a year wouldn’t effect productivity.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-39682388

Fair enough. I like that idea.
 
Yeah, St Edmund, the true Patron Saint of England. Feck George who had feck all to do with England except being liked by a French king. All hail St Edmund's day.

Yeah but he killed a dragon bruh. He’ll the Night King, only good. Wait a minute, what if the NK is good?!?
I’ve been drinking
 
Yeah, St Edmund, the true Patron Saint of England. Feck George who had feck all to do with England except being liked by a French king. All hail St Edmund's day.

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Absolutely pathetic at this hour. Why did Corbyn not sort out the Tory division and negotiate a deal with the EU much sooner?
 
While I enjoy a laugh at Corbyn's expense as much as anyone, let's be honest it would have made feck all difference if he was there. In the sense that May wasn't there to negotiate anything in the first place.
 
While I enjoy a laugh at Corbyn's expense as much as anyone, let's be honest it would have made feck all difference if he was there. In the sense that May wasn't there to negotiate anything in the first place.

How's that relevant? If she were there to negotiate, he's done one instead of representing his party.