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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?

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Penna said:
Parliament has already voted against no-deal, so I would hope that it would get through.
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I don't quite get how that works. The law is in place that on 29th March Britain will leave Europe. The only way to stop that beyond an extension, which I don't see happening unless the government commit to a new referendum, is to revoke article 50.

I reckon we will see the UK crash out because of the bumbling idiots that are currently in government.
 
Paul the Wolf said:


Don't panic everyone. Dr Fox will save the day.

UK exports to Norway $4bn, imports from Norway $21bn - defecit $17bn
UK exports to Iceland $0.5bn , imports from Iceland $0.5bn (mostly fish)
UK exports to and imports from Liechtenstein, sweet fa.

But as the terms of the Swiss deal he boasted about wasn't as he said, I'd be very wary of small print.
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That's really the angle you go with? Not EEA vs EFTA?
 
Green_Red said:
I don't quite get how that works. The law is in place that on 29th March Britain will leave Europe. The only way to stop that beyond an extension, which I don't see happening unless the government commit to a new referendum, is to revoke article 50.

I reckon we will see the UK crash out because of the bumbling idiots that are currently in government.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46393399

This diagram is a really good illustration of what could happen next.
 
Paul the Wolf said:


Don't panic everyone. Dr Fox will save the day.

UK exports to Norway $4bn, imports from Norway $21bn - defecit $17bn
UK exports to Iceland $0.5bn , imports from Iceland $0.5bn (mostly fish)
UK exports to and imports from Liechtenstein, sweet fa.

But as the terms of the Swiss deal he boasted about wasn't as he said, I'd be very wary of small print.
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To be fair Lichtenstein has some beautiful hotels that I'm sure he and his best friend will enjoy staying at.

Is that petty? Maybe. But not nearly as petty as shagging your pal for years and making the taxpayer foot the bill, getting caught, staying out of the spotlight for a couple of years as a "slap on the wrist", and then worming your way back up to a cabinet position.
 
sun_tzu said:
Don't they need the queen's authority to do that...
C'mon Lizzie... Show em whose the real boss and refuse
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Mogg is a fecking moron, there's not nearly enough time. We've all met yuppie twats like him who assume because it only takes them three hours to wipe their arses then it must only take other people a few seconds to do something as simple as, for example, making a battleship out of toothpicks. Which is what Brexit was in the first place.
 
Dante said:
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46393399

This diagram is a really good illustration of what could happen next.
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That diagram doesn't mean shit if the 27 members states of Europe don't unanimously vote to allow the extension.

The only guarantee is that there is an ACT of Parliament that means without a unanimous approval from Europe the only way to stay after 29th is to revoke article 50 and repeal the act.
 
Green_Red said:
That diagram doesn't mean shit if the 27 members states of Europe don't unanimously vote to allow the extension.

The only guarantee is that there is an ACT of Parliament that means without a unanimous approval from Europe the only way to stay after 29th is to revoke article 50 and repeal the act.
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That's on the diagram.
 
Paul the Wolf said:
James Cleverly, a Conservative, says if Bercow had made this ruling earlier, MPs might have realised that last week was their last chance to vote for the Brexit deal. They might have voted differently, he says.

Here's a suggestion, what if all the parties in parliament would stop playing party politics and put their country first .
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Honestly like a bunch of little kids. You've accumulated a staggering amount of incompetents in UK politics.
 
A few questions - why did may not seek collaboration with Labour for a deal to begin with?

Is there any hypothetical deal that might actually have been negotiated that Parliament would ever accept?
 
B20 said:
Honestly like a bunch of little kids. You've accumulated a staggering amount of incompetents in UK politics.
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Thats true of every country's politicians, you just need the right platform to highlight it on a global stage.
 
B20 said:
Honestly like a bunch of little kids. You've accumulated a staggering amount of incompetents in UK politics.
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More of a moron storage facility than a parliament.
 
Stanley Road said:
I'm not sure thats correct. We the people call them elite because they are fireproof in any disaster situation. They'll always be ok.
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In France they call themselves the elite because they think that they are smart and have answers that the average man doesn't. The fireproof part is simply a function of the influence that they get as politicians.
 
Wibble said:
More of a moron storage facility than a parliament.
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The first past the post voting system is very counter-productive, I think. Every candidate needs to appeal to as wide an audience as possible. Bland morons (and charismatic con men) tend to be the best at that.
 
Siorac said:
The first past the post voting system is very counter-productive, I think. Every candidate needs to appeal to as wide an audience as possible. Bland morons (and charismatic con men) tend to be the best at that.
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Bear in mind we got Fraser Anning via proportional representation.
 
We should hold a referendum to get rid of Johnson, Chameleon Gove, and Farage. I promise the country will be instantly better.
 
Stanley Road said:
Thats true of every country's politicians, you just need the right platform to highlight it on a global stage.
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I am not so sure. History has seen national leaders tackle big issues and crises with far greater maturity than this in the past. Not all political periods are equal in competence and yours is probably at a historic low. The baby boomers dismantling the post-WWII world order out of ignorance of the frailty of it.
 
Sultan said:
We should hold a referendum to get rid of Johnson, Chameleon Gove, and Farage. I promise the country will be instantly better.
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I don't know if Gove is much of a chameleon, Sults, he looks like a twat irrespective of the branch he's standing on!
 
The original Leave or Remain binary choice has always been the case, May underscored that when in her Lancaster House speech she said "No deal is better than a bad deal", because she knew a 'bad deal' is only what the EU would/could offer us and any agreement that did not include future trade i.e. was a withdrawal agreement only, was hence a 'bad deal'.

The rest as they say has just been 'grandstanding' from the PM and the MP's. Its still 'No deal or revoke A50'. A short extension now looks highly improbable and a longer extension just improbable, because of the terms the EU would demand for putting their Elections at risk i.e. returning Nigel and Co.

From the ERG's standpoint we would have been better using the two years to plan for any contingencies arising from the 'no deal'. From the PM (and Remain) standpoint, going down to the wire (as we now are) and causing even more delays and uncertainty for businesses, gives May the opportunity (if she will take it)to revoke A50 and then fall on her sword.
 
B20 said:
A few questions - why did may not seek collaboration with Labour for a deal to begin with?

Is there any hypothetical deal that might actually have been negotiated that Parliament would ever accept?
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Because she wanted to keep them at arms length to blame if it all went wrong.

If she'd had done indicative votes to start with she'd have known the various positions of the house and negotiated these with the EU to then put back to the house. However she's so bent to the will of the ERG i don't think they'd have allowed her to sway from this harder brexit.
 
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