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Wes Streeting MP:
I’ve thought long and hard before saying this, but theresa_may knows that MPs across the House are subjected to death threats - some very credible. Her speech was incendiary and irresponsible. If any harm comes to any of us, she will have to accept her share of responsibility.

Luke Pollard MP:
I agree Wes. It’s not just MPs but all those who work tirelessly for MPs who are now at greater risk because of the dangerous words chosen by the PM tonight.
 
Lads have I missed something here? Tusk has said the UK can have an extension only if May gets the agreement through the commons. Number one, has it not been ruled that no 3rd vote can take place on her deal and number two, if the agreement does go through then an extension isn’t needed? Apologies if I’m being a bit thick.
 
Eire Red United said:
Lads have I missed something here? Tusk has said the UK can have an extension only if May gets the agreement through the commons. Number one, has it not been ruled that no 3rd vote can take place on her deal and number two, if the agreement does go through then an extension isn’t needed? Apologies if I’m being a bit thick.
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A majority of MPs can overrule the speaker, so if there's a majority to support the deal there should be a majority to put it to a vote (i.e. May can't just bring it to a vote to lose again), and even if the agreement goes through, an extension will be needed to put through all the necessary legislation due to how hilariously late we've left it.

But yeah, don't blame you for being confused as it's a cluster of fecks.
 
I don't think i've despised someone that I haven't met before more than her and I hate that she makes me feel like that which makes me despise her more.
 
Ubik said:
A majority of MPs can overrule the speaker, so if there's a majority to support the deal there should be a majority to put it to a vote (i.e. May can't just bring it to a vote to lose again), and even if the agreement goes through, an extension will be needed to put through all the necessary legislation due to how hilariously late we've left it.

But yeah, don't blame you for being confused as it's a cluster of fecks.
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Cheers, wasn’t aware that MP’s could overrule the speaker, but its unlikely especially after her speech tonight that anymore MP’s are going to back her deal.

Looks like it’s either going to be no deal, revoke article 50 or a long extension with the UK participating in the elections.
 
Eire Red United said:
Cheers, wasn’t aware that MP’s could overrule the speaker, but its unlikely especially after her speech tonight that anymore MP’s are going to back her deal.

Looks like it’s either going to be no deal, revoke article 50 or a long extension with the UK participating in the elections.
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It's a general constitutional point and probably the only one worth remembering: Parliament can do whatever the feck they want, as long as 50%+1 want to do it, even if they've previously said they can't do it. Loosely, it's governed by convention, but as soon as that threshold is reached they can decide to ignore convention.
 
Dobba said:
:lol:

Does anyone know which Chuka turned up? The one who didn't want Labour to back a second referendum, the one who does want a second referendum or the one who wanted to end Freedom of Movement?
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Standard Dobba post, whataboutism.
 
I do think Cameron will take some beating as worst PM in the last century (if not ever) but Jesus H Christ, May is trying her damndest to out-do him.

That speech was unreal. Genuine tone of a dictator. You’d think the referendum was won by 80%+.
 
Her position is untenable.

The whole process has been an unnecessary strain on the UK.

But I maintain my point of view, Great Britain is no longer great. The world is laughing in our direction, and our Government is watching the disarray unfold with popcorn in hand.

I've been heavily involved in projects bringing in billions of pounds in Govt revenue, and for what? To be attacked by the PM and her media cronies?

I now work on a Brexit contingency planning unit in a non-ministerial department, and the lack of support we get from the people who have dragged us to this position is disgraceful.

Brexit or no Brexit, throw her out and dump her on an island with Farage, Boris and the others who created this mess.
 
Theresa May’s ‘people’ consist only of the 17.4m leave voters from June 2016. There are seemingly no other ‘people’ in the entire country.
 
NotoriousISSY said:
Her position is untenable.

The whole process has been an unnecessary strain on the UK.

But I maintain my point of view, Great Britain is no longer great. The world is laughing in our direction, and our Government is watching the disarray unfold with popcorn in hand.

I've been heavily involved in projects bringing in billions of pounds in Govt revenue, and for what? To be attacked by the PM and her media cronies?

I now work on a Brexit contingency planning unit in a non-ministerial department, and the lack of support we get from the people who have dragged us to this position is disgraceful.

Brexit or no Brexit, throw her out and dump her on an island with Farage, Boris and the others who created this mess.
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I’m doing business and financial planning for one of the NHS transformation programmes. Got our budget slashed a month ago, now a further reduction (‘efficiency saving’) shaved off another third of the money. People in the office joking don’t worry, BoJo will send us bags of cash on the day after 29 March. The whole situation is shocking and comical at the same time. Ultimately it’s the patients that will suffer. Not that TM gives two shits about that.

Which area you doing the contingency planning for?
 
She's not very good at this politics thing is she, Mrs. May.

What I do love though is someone so deeply out of touch with society telling me how I'm feeling. I didn't realise I was tired of the infighting until she told me I was.
 
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Nigel Farage in the Telegraph: 'If Theresa May buckles and delays Brexit, I will do my best to tear her party limb from limb.'
 
SteveJ said:
Nigel Farage in the Telegraph: 'If Theresa May buckles and delays Brexit, I will do my best to tear her party limb from limb.'
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:lol: Is she supposed to listen to a guy that struggled to organise a worthwhile march the other day?
 
My current take:

If the government ends up in a situation where they have to "choose" between No Deal and revoking A50, then their only actual option is the latter. The former is effectively illegal in all sorts of ways (for the foreseeable future).

May should be gone. I doubt anything would change but for her to still be PM is becoming an insult to everyone involved.
 
Mihajlovic said:
Theresa May’s ‘people’ consist only of the 17.4m leave voters from June 2016. There are seemingly no other ‘people’ in the entire country.
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This was also my thought. If we had all been of the same mind, we wouldn't be disagreeing now.

It really needs saying more often - only a minority of the eligible voting population actually chose Brexit. Nearly as many voted the other way and a large number of people saw it as a complete non-issue and didn't bother voting. That means only a minority want change.

The huge danger with referendums is that the zealous minority can impose its will on the rest of the country. If you want something different to the status quo you'll vote for it every time, given the chance.
 
RK said:
My current take:

If the government ends up in a situation where they have to "choose" between No Deal and revoking A50, then their only actual option is the latter. The former is effectively illegal in all sorts of ways (for the foreseeable future).

May should be gone. I doubt anything would change but for her to still be PM is becoming an insult to everyone involved.
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How is No Deal illegal if it's the default position?
 
Mihajlovic said:
I’m doing business and financial planning for one of the NHS transformation programmes. Got our budget slashed a month ago, now a further reduction (‘efficiency saving’) shaved off another third of the money. People in the office joking don’t worry, BoJo will send us bags of cash on the day after 29 March. The whole situation is shocking and comical at the same time. Ultimately it’s the patients that will suffer. Not that TM gives two shits about that.

Which area you doing the contingency planning for?
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HMRC.

It's comical, as our various plans to implement once a decision is made means so much short termism.

The engagement levels with staff across the department is already one of the lowest in the public sector, and this is only going to make it worse when people are applying for generic jobs, and placed in areas that don't yet have a plan of action - because the potential policy changes are yet to be considered.
 
SteveJ said:
Wes Streeting MP:
I’ve thought long and hard before saying this, but theresa_may knows that MPs across the House are subjected to death threats - some very credible. Her speech was incendiary and irresponsible. If any harm comes to any of us, she will have to accept her share of responsibility.

Luke Pollard MP:
I agree Wes. It’s not just MPs but all those who work tirelessly for MPs who are now at greater risk because of the dangerous words chosen by the PM tonight.
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If any harm comes to any if you it will be because of the behaviour of the majority of MPs. The history of expense fiddling, voting down anything that might be good for society but poor for your bank balance, for being a bunch of elitist self serving self entitled, arrogant, fecking clowns who are in politics for yourselves and what you can get rather than to serve.
 
Sparky_Hughes said:
If any harm comes to any if you it will be because of the behaviour of the majority of MPs. The history of expense fiddling, voting down anything that might be good for society but poor for your bank balance, for being a bunch of elitist self serving self entitled, arrogant, fecking clowns who are in politics for yourselves and what you can get rather than to serve.
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Oh... Is that what happened to Jo Cox then?
 
Sparky_Hughes said:
If any harm comes to any if you it will be because of the behaviour of the majority of MPs. The history of expense fiddling, voting down anything that might be good for society but poor for your bank balance, for being a bunch of elitist self serving self entitled, arrogant, fecking clowns who are in politics for yourselves and what you can get rather than to serve.
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May needs to remember that MPs are selected to make judgements on behalf of all their constituents, that includes all those that didn't vote in the ref. They're not there to just do what they're told by an opinion poll otherwise she should take note of her own constituency voting remain.

One poll the other week showed only 14% thought Mays deal delivered on what was voted on.
 
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Her determination to remain as PM no matter what is disgusting. Just fecking go.
 
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We're a fecking laughing stock, a complete joke of a country, run by wankers and filled with bitter little people. What a farce.

No deal, shit deal, have another vote on the deal, none of it matters, the damage is already done. Just get out and be done with it, because this is beyond funny.
 
Adisa said:
Her deterninadete to remain as PM no matter what is disgusting. Just fecking go.
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I genuinely think there is more to it than her ego and legacy. There’s string pulling going on there somewhere. She’s gone from being a remainer to steering us into the perfect storm for no deal.
 
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