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If folks don't want to Brexit then why not stage some mass protests or something...do the majority truly want to Brexit?
If folks don't want to Brexit then why not stage some mass protests or something...do the majority truly want to Brexit?
I think when it comes down to it, a lot of people aren’t that bothered either way, especially remainers.If folks don't want to Brexit then why not stage some mass protests or something...do the majority truly want to Brexit?
I'll be honest, I'm dumbfounded. From what you guys have to say about both parties and the way they act, voting for them makes no sense.
There are reports around of an increasingly strained relationship between the prime minister and her chief whip, Julian Smith. According to ITV News’ Paul Brand, Smith “has been openly admitting today that he found last night’s statement in Downing Street ‘appalling’.”
On Wednesday evening, May delivered a televised address from Downing Street, in which she said the planned delay to Brexit was not her fault but that of MPs, adding that it was time for them to make a decision.
ITV quote Smith as telling a fellow MP the prime minister “just won’t listen” to him.
A part of me hopes we just leave on the 29th March and be done with it, even if it is no deal. Deal with the fallout however bad it may be and then focus on the campaign to rejoin the EU at whatever point in the future
It stands for Extremely Rich Geezers.I only found out today that ERG stands for European Research Group.
I was sure it'd be something like English Royalist Group or some daft empire slogan.
I've seen a few people say this but the reality is that things won't come to any sort of conclusion with a no deal exit, as if that settles things. It would keep rumbling on and on, just from a more bitter and divided position with the UK suffering much worse.
Even after a no deal exit, the UK will still ultimately need to establish some sort of relationship with the EU and do something about the border in NI. Both of which will require yet more negotiations with the EU. A no deal exit won't bring relief from that shitshow.
A part of me hopes we just leave on the 29th March and be done with it, even if it is no deal. Deal with the fallout however bad it may be and then focus on the campaign to rejoin the EU at whatever point in the future
Story of her career. She’s proven herself utterly incapable of working with, compromising with, or even empathising with other political players and alternative opinions.Sigh...
A part of me hopes we just leave on the 29th March and be done with it, even if it is no deal. Deal with the fallout however bad it may be and then focus on the campaign to rejoin the EU at whatever point in the future
You know SF could play a blinder here and take their seats in London to vote on the biggest issue in UKs recent history. Could fcuk up the UK for years without doing anything other than vote
No, no it won’ttiocfaidh ár lá
Best one yetIt stands for Extremely Rich Geezers.
Stubborn as a mule
A big part of me wishes the EU were the adults in this relationship and they had a contingency plan where they let us go to shit for the next 6 months, let there be a real, tangible feeling of regret, remorse and realisation and then open the door to let us back in on the basis we tell the ERG to feck off out of politics.
Happy to give up sterling and our privileged position within the EU for that scenario to play out.
Stubborn as a mule
You offering to pay my mortgage when Automotive manufacturing dies on it's arse?
Absolutely terrifying, i hope the EU have balls of steel.She’s hilarious, in a terrifying, terrifying way.
Yes its a very good analogy!This analogy of her being like an AI which is programmed for one task is becoming increasingly true. Has anyone tried to unscrew the back of her and check if it's all in working order?
Take the batteries out of the fecking thing!This analogy of her being like an AI which is programmed for one task is becoming increasingly true. Has anyone tried to unscrew the back of her and check if it's all in working order?
I’ll be honest, I’m completely biased here but only one of these parties is an anti-gay, racist and xenophobic bunch of lunatics who amongst other scandals cost the public purse hundreds of millions in a fecking scheme for protestant farmers to heat empty chicken houses.
Sinn Fein are far from perfect, but I can only speak from experience, any of the local elected officals were I am are absolute gentlemen who couldn’t do enough for constituents in my experience.
In short, there’s no comparison between the two.
The withdrawal agreement is just a transition phase, everything has to be negotiated over the next two years. The uncertainty is what is hurting businesses and forcing them to move.
No-deal could lead to two possibilities.
1) The economy tanks, people unrest leading to joining the EU again.
2) somehow they negotiate some deal and the economy doesn't tank and people move on with their lives.
As I said, the uncertainty is the main issue here. May's deal is not going to make it any better.
Number one, we’re getting off topic in this thread but go to another one if you wish, number two that was during an armed conflict, number three you are confusing Sinn Fein with the IRA, and four plenty of those killings were right plenty were wrong, but killings were happening on both sides.Why? Theres endless evidence of them murdering people amongst other pretty grim stuff. They have no place in a peaceful, decent society
I'm going off topic here, but by all accounts, I've heard Paisley was a fantastic constituency politician, who would have gone to all lengths to help any Catholic that came to him with an individual case, while still going out to preach Never Never Never about the Anti-Christ Pope the very next day.I’ll be honest, I’m completely biased here but only one of these parties is an anti-gay, racist and xenophobic bunch of lunatics who amongst other scandals cost the public purse hundreds of millions in a fecking scheme for protestant farmers to heat empty chicken houses.
Sinn Fein are far from perfect, but I can only speak from experience, any of the local elected officals were I am are absolute gentlemen who couldn’t do enough for constituents in my experience.
In short, there’s no comparison between the two.
May only listens to the Daily Mail owners. Not her whips.Sigh...
If that's the case for them, it's also the case for the DUP. And the Tories for that matter!Why? Theres endless evidence of them murdering people amongst other pretty grim stuff. They have no place in a peaceful, decent society
We all know how completely fecked the Tories are with all of this, but I'm still utterly dumbfounded at how poorly Labour have handled this as the opposition.
Corbyn has been a complete doormat during the whole thing, and surely has lost the vast majority of the support he once had by failing to do literally anything? There have been multiple stages during this that Labour could have come out and completely opposed Brexit, offering a real alternative to the shitshow we're currently, and are likely to continue enduring.
The referendum being advisory only has barely been mentioned.
The proven underhandedness of the Leave campaign has barely been mentioned.
The swinging poll numbers on the matter have barely been mentioned.
The closeness of the actual vote has barely been mentioned.
The option of revoking Article 50, even to do some proper, in-depth impact assessments on the various possible outcomes, has barely been mentioned.
The fact that even those that want to leave, can't even agree on how has barely been mentioned.
They've just been a bunch of nodding dogs, occasionally piping up with something vaguely resembling a dissenting voice, but not really, once a month.
Most infuriatingly, there has also barely been any challenge to the stubborn, bone-headedness of the "we need to get on with it, it's the will of the people" nonsense that keeps being spouted, not just by known garbage mouth-pieces like Farage, but by May herself. It's infuriating.
We've currently got one of the worst sitting governments ever, propped up by a band of bought, shithouse, religious lunatics, and somehow Labour can't leave a scratch on them because they're being led by a man who now seems more concerned with trying to become PM himself than the imminent shitstorm the country is about to find itself in.
We've seen from that farce of a march Farage 'organised' that there won't be riots if we don't leave, so why has no one got the backbone to just acknowledge that we can actually pump the brakes on this?
Being an advisory referendum, surely the result was actually, "Leave if it's best for the country" and not, "Leave whatever"?
We all know how completely fecked the Tories are with all of this, but I'm still utterly dumbfounded at how poorly Labour have handled this as the opposition.
Corbyn has been a complete doormat during the whole thing, and surely has lost the vast majority of the support he once had by failing to do literally anything? There have been multiple stages during this that Labour could have come out and completely opposed Brexit, offering a real alternative to the shitshow we're currently, and are likely to continue enduring.
The referendum being advisory only has barely been mentioned.
The proven underhandedness of the Leave campaign has barely been mentioned.
The swinging poll numbers on the matter have barely been mentioned.
The closeness of the actual vote has barely been mentioned.
The option of revoking Article 50, even to do some proper, in-depth impact assessments on the various possible outcomes, has barely been mentioned.
The fact that even those that want to leave, can't even agree on how has barely been mentioned.
They've just been a bunch of nodding dogs, occasionally piping up with something vaguely resembling a dissenting voice, but not really, once a month.
Most infuriatingly, there has also barely been any challenge to the stubborn, bone-headedness of the "we need to get on with it, it's the will of the people" nonsense that keeps being spouted, not just by known garbage mouth-pieces like Farage, but by May herself. It's infuriating.
We've currently got one of the worst sitting governments ever, propped up by a band of bought, shithouse, religious lunatics, and somehow Labour can't leave a scratch on them because they're being led by a man who now seems more concerned with trying to become PM himself than the imminent shitstorm the country is about to find itself in.
We've seen from that farce of a march Farage 'organised' that there won't be riots if we don't leave, so why has no one got the backbone to just acknowledge that we can actually pump the brakes on this?
Being an advisory referendum, surely the result was actually, "Leave if it's best for the country" and not, "Leave whatever"?
I agree and I wonder what the thinking is. I'd still much much much rather have him in charge though.