Jeremy Corbyn - Not Not Labour Party(?), not a Communist (BBC)

So what exactly the feck is Jezza doing today to help win the next election? Apart from poncing round with Alsatians. Tom Watson did a decent job representing the party at one of the biggest public gatherings ever to happen in the Uk, discussing the most important issue of our lifetimes but it’s shameful that the Labour leader wasn’t giving that speech instead. He’s such a useless, insipid turd.
 
So what exactly the feck is Jezza doing today to help win the next election? Apart from poncing round with Alsatians. Tom Watson did a decent job representing the party at one of the biggest public gatherings ever to happen in the Uk, discussing the most important issue of our lifetimes but it’s shameful that the Labour leader wasn’t giving that speech instead. He’s such a useless, insipid turd.
He is a Leaver that dare not admit it because most of his acolytes are not. One would think having the chance to support the call for a second referendum would be a perfect way out for him, but his belief in Leave is obviously too strong to do so.
 
He is a Leaver that dare not admit it because most of his acolytes are not. One would think having the chance to support the call for a second referendum would be a perfect way out for him, but his belief in Leave is obviously too strong to do so.

I’ve got a friend who is an ardent Corbyn supporter. He just calls me a red Tory every time I call Corbyn out on his blatant leave preference and tells me he acts like that because most labour voters want to leave.

They just don’t want to face reality. What’s more, taking one day to address the biggest issue affecting Britain’s future isn’t going to harm a campaign that ends in May.
 
He is a Leaver that dare not admit it because most of his acolytes are not. One would think having the chance to support the call for a second referendum would be a perfect way out for him, but his belief in Leave is obviously too strong to do so.

Sad fact is that if he was a Remainer, Labour would be a Remain party. A majority of MPs, members, Unions and voters all prefer Remain. Corbyn and his team are the only ones that don’t, but they call the tune.
 
Bloody Corbyn!



I can tell you a lot of the problems of the Morecambe and Lancaster area. I work in Probation as well so I am well aware of the amount of people visiting food banks in the area, in addition to the rise of visible street homelessness increasing to dozens in the last 10 years since the Conservatives took over. Austerity really has ripped the heart out of a lot of the area, however worse than austerity will be the effects of leaving the EU on the area and I can tell you now; most people in Morecambe will no doubt despise Corbyn so going out there for a chat about their problems instead of throwing his (and the Labour Party's) weight behind a second EU referendum is a total waste of time.
 
I can tell you a lot of the problems of the Morecambe and Lancaster area. I work in Probation as well so I am well aware of the amount of people visiting food banks in the area, in addition to the rise of visible street homelessness increasing to dozens in the last 10 years since the Conservatives took over. Austerity really has ripped the heart out of a lot of the area, however worse than austerity will be the effects of leaving the EU on the area and I can tell you now; most people in Morecambe will no doubt despise Corbyn so going out there for a chat about their problems instead of throwing his (and the Labour Party's) weight behind a second EU referendum is a total waste of time.
:) Half the homeless and desperately poor in Morecambe are Scots, as I'm sure you know, they'll soon tell him to feck off back to Islington if asked.
 
I can tell you a lot of the problems of the Morecambe and Lancaster area. I work in Probation as well so I am well aware of the amount of people visiting food banks in the area, in addition to the rise of visible street homelessness increasing to dozens in the last 10 years since the Conservatives took over. Austerity really has ripped the heart out of a lot of the area, however worse than austerity will be the effects of leaving the EU on the area and I can tell you now; most people in Morecambe will no doubt despise Corbyn so going out there for a chat about their problems instead of throwing his (and the Labour Party's) weight behind a second EU referendum is a total waste of time.
Er....ok then. Also Morecambe voted leave right ?

But anyway, good to see Dawn's back on twitter after she deleted her account in shame.
What ?

Actually I don't want to know.
 
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Ok then. Also Morecambe voted leave right ?

Struggling to see what's funny about local high streets being decimated, homelessness and a rise in the need for food banks in the area being compounded by the UK leaving the EU?

Unfortunately, yes, Lancaster district voted 51.1% - 48.9% in favour of leave. I don't see how that's relevant to Corbyn wasting his time by going to a non-marginal seat held by Conservative MP David Morris for the last nine years.
 
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Ok then. Also Morecambe voted leave right ?


What ?

Actually I don't want to know.

She accused Nick Boles of creepily hitting on Jess Phillips, apparently unaware of the fact that Nick Boles is gay. Rather than backing down or apologising she deleted her account for a few days and then came back pretending nothing had happened.

In fairness, Boles's tweet was a bit weird and I do actually quite like Foster normally, but she was wrong then and she's attacking a straw man here.
 
Struggling to see what's funny about local high streets being decimated, homelessness and a rise in the need for food banks in the area being compounded by the UK leaving the EU?

Unfortunately, yes, Lancaster district voted 51.1% - 48.9% in favour of leave. I don't see how that's relevant to Corbyn wasting his time by going to a non-marginal seat held by Conservative MP David Morris for the last nine years.
It is a marginal, only 1400 votes in it in 2017 and 900 in 2010.
 
Unfortunately, yes, Lancaster district voted 51.1% - 48.9% in favour of leave. I don't see how that's relevant to Corbyn wasting his time by going to a non-marginal seat held by Conservative MP David Morris for the last nine years.

Wait, is Morecambe non-marginal? Morris won by less than 1.5k votes, Lib Dems themselves got 1.7k alone in the constituency. Last time Labour won Morecambe and Lunesdale was the last time they won the general so arguably they need to win places like Morecambe to succeed overall.
 
Brexit isn't Corbyn's fault and it would be daft for him to have been there today.

It's moronic that the biggest mistake the Tories have made in living memory is being used as a stick to beat him with

Shame on you.
 
Historically it's a safe Tory seat and since Labour's implosion following Blair being forced out, the Conservatives have held it. And considering they held it in what was supposedly a massive win for Corbyn in the last GE, I don't see the seat changing hands again any time soon. Alas, I can't predict the future, however.
 
Brexit isn't Corbyn's fault and it would be daft for him to have been there today.

It's moronic that the biggest mistake the Tories have made in living memory is being used as a stick to beat him with

Shame on you.

Who's blaming Corbyn for Brexit? All I'm saying is he's blatantly a Lexiter and has no interest in seeing the country remain in the EU. If he did, he would have postponed his pointless jamboree in Morecambe and gone to the march today. He's every much as complicit as May because he has offered absolute zero opposition to her in the last three years.
 
Historically it's a safe Tory seat and since Labour's implosion following Blair being forced out, the Conservatives have held it. And considering they held it in what was supposedly a massive win for Corbyn in the last GE, I don't see the seat changing hands again any time soon. Alas, I can't predict the future, however.

Probably will have to if Labour are to win an election, that I can't predict under Corbyn. It's no longer a safe Tory seat however so understandable Labour would target it.
 
Brexit isn't Corbyn's fault and it would be daft for him to have been there today.

It's moronic that the biggest mistake the Tories have made in living memory is being used as a stick to beat him with

Shame on you.
Brexit isn't Corbyn's fault? He campaigned for Brexit in his manifesto at the last general election and voted for article 50 in parliament, which is precisely why are where we are today. How is it possibly not his fault?
 
Some of you purposefully choose to ignore the obvious point at times. I'm sure you can figure out why the leader of the labour party isn't at a people's vote march, we've been having the electoral math debate for years now. It would be clearly damaging to the party whilst offering no benefit.

As long as he supports the vote at crunch time i don't give a shit if he's preaching to the choir (which is what you same people moaned about previously)
 
Struggling to see what's funny about local high streets being decimated, homelessness and a rise in the need for food banks in the area being compounded by the UK leaving the EU?

Unfortunately, yes, Lancaster district voted 51.1% - 48.9% in favour of leave. I don't see how that's relevant to Corbyn wasting his time by going to a non-marginal seat held by Conservative MP David Morris for the last nine years.
I was laughing at(In fairness I edited out as it seemed a bit mean)that you somehow know how people of Morecambe feel and it just happens to be the exact view point you hold.

Why I pointed out that district voted leave is because I somehow doubt a lot of people are bother about Corbyn being on the march in London(Still I'm just going on the voting numbers). Its hardly a remain stronghold. Also Morecambe is marginal seat.

She accused Nick Boles of creepily hitting on Jess Phillips, apparently unaware of the fact that Nick Boles is gay. Rather than backing down or apologising she deleted her account for a few days and then came back pretending nothing had happened.

In fairness, Boles's tweet was a bit weird and I do actually quite like Foster normally, but she was wrong then and she's attacking a straw man here.
Strong twitter game, never under any circumstance apologise.

''The greatest victory is that which requires no tweeting.''

But yeah not a great looks.

Edit - Boles tweet is pretty gross - There is something about @jessphillips that I find irresistible. I would walk over hot coals for her.
 
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Who's blaming Corbyn for Brexit? All I'm saying is he's blatantly a Lexiter and has no interest in seeing the country remain in the EU. If he did, he would have postponed his pointless jamboree in Morecambe and gone to the march today. He's every much as complicit as May because he has offered absolute zero opposition to her in the last three years.

I wasn't quoting you, but to even suggest he is in the same field of complacency is moronic. I don't want to swallow it, but he's always offered a more palletable alternative to what May has suggested and has never even been given a platform for it to be an option.
 
Some of you purposefully choose to ignore the obvious point at times. I'm sure you can figure out why the leader of the labour party isn't at a people's vote march, we've been having the electoral math debate for years now. It would be clearly damaging to the party whilst offering no benefit.

As long as he supports the vote at crunch time i don't give a shit if he's preaching to the choir (which is what you same people moaned about previously)
Crunch time like the vote on the withdrawal bill you mean? We know where he stood on that one.
 
Some of you purposefully choose to ignore the obvious point at times. I'm sure you can figure out why the leader of the labour party isn't at a people's vote march, we've been having the electoral math debate for years now. It would be clearly damaging to the party whilst offering no benefit.

As long as he supports the vote at crunch time i don't give a shit if he's preaching to the choir (which is what you same people moaned about previously)

If that’s the case, why was Tom Watson permitted to speak at the march? The argument doesn’t hold when all the evidence points to remaining in the EU doesn’t much tickle Jeremy Corbyn’s fancy.
 
Brexit isn't Corbyn's fault and it would be daft for him to have been there today.

It's moronic that the biggest mistake the Tories have made in living memory is being used as a stick to beat him with

Shame on you.

Yes, the Tories get most of the blame but not all of it.

I am afraid Brexit is corbyns fault... and Mays fault... and the bloody useless lot of them. He has failed to lead, failed to oppose and failed to influence. He’s been shifty and disingenuous. A plague on both Tory and labour houses.
 
I was laughing at(In fairness I edited out as it seemed a bit mean)that you somehow know how people of Morecambe feel and it just happens to be the exact view point you hold.

Granted it’s anecdotal but most people I know and speak to have some level of disdain for Corbyn, I know two or three people who support him. The rest think he’s well meaning but a bit useless. Perhaps I was a bit extreme in saying most despise him but I am fairly certain most wouldn’t give two shits about his visit.

For what it’s worth I will probably end up voting Labour in the next GE in spite of him.
 
If that’s the case, why was Tom Watson permitted to speak at the march? The argument doesn’t hold when all the evidence points to remaining in the EU doesn’t much tickle Jeremy Corbyn’s fancy.

Because what Tom Watson does won't be held against the leadership, which you've clearly demonstrated by not attributing Watsons presence at the march to Corbyn.

If you're going to start making Corbyn permitting him being there relevant you can't then also say he's not supportive unless you think sending Watson is sabotage.
 
Strong twitter game, never under any circumstance apologise.

But yeah really that is quite odd.

Edit - Boles tweet is pretty gross

There is something about @jessphillips that I find irresistible. I would walk over hot coals for her.

Yeah, it's a bizarre thing to tweet given the usual associations of that phrase, but it was pretty clear from their interaction that it was meant non-sexually.
 
Granted it’s anecdotal but most people I know and speak to have some level of disdain for Corbyn, I know two or three people who support him. The rest think he’s well meaning but a bit useless. Perhaps I was a bit extreme in saying most despise him but I am fairly certain most wouldn’t give two shits about his visit.
Oh yeah I didn't mean to come across mean spirited(Although that always seem to be the case) and I'm sure he got plenty of feck off on the door step.

For what it’s worth I will probably end up voting Labour in the next GE in spite of him.
Welcome to me in 2010 & 2015.

Yeah, it's a bizarre thing to tweet given the usual associations of that phrase, but it was pretty clear from their interaction that it was meant non-sexually.
Fair enough. And weirder for anyone other the Philips to comment on it, in all honestly( she didn't seem to have a problem with the comment).

But thats twitter I guess. While there's worse things in the world I can't image having to be on twitter for your job does get things for your mindset.
 
Some of you purposefully choose to ignore the obvious point at times. I'm sure you can figure out why the leader of the labour party isn't at a people's vote march, we've been having the electoral math debate for years now. It would be clearly damaging to the party whilst offering no benefit.

As long as he supports the vote at crunch time i don't give a shit if he's preaching to the choir (which is what you same people moaned about previously)

I might have missed that math. Why would it be damaging to the party when 2/3s of labour voters are pro remain?
 
Brexit isn't Corbyn's fault and it would be daft for him to have been there today.

It's moronic that the biggest mistake the Tories have made in living memory is being used as a stick to beat him with

Shame on you.

The Tories are primarily to blame for Brexit, though everyone in Parliament is somewhat culpable. But ultimately I don’t expect the Tories to care about people like me or represent my views. Labour I do, and that’s why it’s so depressing that Labour have ended up with a pro-Brexit policy and bothers me more than what the Tories do.

Some of you purposefully choose to ignore the obvious point at times. I'm sure you can figure out why the leader of the labour party isn't at a people's vote march, we've been having the electoral math debate for years now. It would be clearly damaging to the party whilst offering no benefit.

As long as he supports the vote at crunch time i don't give a shit if he's preaching to the choir (which is what you same people moaned about previously)

If this was an anti-austerity march, or an anti-war march or a march in support of a General Strike, he would have been there. Electoral calculus wouldn’t have crossed his mind.