Ander Herrera to PSG? | Gone.

[Verminator]

He's a decent player and that's it.
If he's a first teamer, he should be on first team money.
If he then thinks that he is worth more, then he is welcome to find a club that will pay it.
I think he'd struggle to get into one of those teams that would pay more, unless it was a smaller club wanting him as one of their star players.

 

[::sonny::]

He's a decent player and that's it.
If he's a first teamer, he should be on first team money.
If he then thinks that he is worth more, then he is welcome to find a club that will pay it.
I think he'd struggle to get into one of those teams that would pay more, unless it was a smaller club wanting him as one of their star players.

Agreed

 

[Brophs]

In the almost five years since he arrived, has he even managed to make it through one season as an undisputed first choice? He seems to have fallen in and out of favour regularly. I like him, but I think he gets away with murder at times based upon being likeable and apparently 'getting' the club. He would be a squad player at best if we had any sort of handle on recruitment.

 

[ForestRGoinUp]

In the almost five years since he arrived, has he even managed to make it through one season as an undisputed first choice? He seems to have fallen in and out of favour regularly. I like him, but I think he gets away with murder at times based upon being likeable and apparently 'getting' the club. He would be a squad player at best if we had any sort of handle on recruitment.

This is the reality. At least some can see it.

But at the same time, the squad is so poorly developed and so fragile that even losing a solid contributor like Herrera feels like a big blow. Of course he is replaceable and of course he needs to be upgraded, but I’d be surprised if a replacement was brought in, let alone an upgrade. Such is the current state of recruitment at the club.

 

[Andersonson]

Err no, hence why he didn't play for Spain? You seem to be confused about what point you're trying to make, dear.

You're the one placing the spain titles as an argument. While im placing the current Spain squad as an argument. Likes of Koke , Silva, Thiago and Isco not in the current squad, and Ander is not Even in contention

 

[ivaldo]

You're the one placing the spain titles as an argument. While im placing the current Spain squad as an argument. Likes of Koke , Silva, Thiago and Isco not in the current squad, and Ander is not Even in contention

Nah mate, I think you'll find you were the one who brought up international football as evidence as to why Herrera wasn't good enough in the first place. And when I brought up Carrick as proof this is a stupid way to rate a player, you somehow thought counting caps was a good way to counter this. The Spain side was significantly harder to get into, and yet the likes of Milner and Henderson have more caps than Carrick. It's almost as if that's a terrible metric to measure the ability of a player...

 

[arthurka]

We need to replace Matic as, Herrera should be kept as he is the only one who could be called a character in this squad.

 

[Green_Red]

I don't think Herrera leaving on a free to PSG would mean we'd be fine to go and sign Verratti, he's probably as unlikely to leave as Mbappe.

yea I realise that now. We should still be trying to replace Herrera and Matic this season with one player that can do the job in there. It would be a pity to see Ander go but he hasn't quite reached the levels we expect of United midfielders. That's no disrespect to the effort he has shown.

 

[The Nani]

In the almost five years since he arrived, has he even managed to make it through one season as an undisputed first choice? He seems to have fallen in and out of favour regularly. I like him, but I think he gets away with murder at times based upon being likeable and apparently 'getting' the club. He would be a squad player at best if we had any sort of handle on recruitment.

He’s only a season removed from being voted our player of the season. He’s much better than merely a squad player at best.

He's a decent player and that's it.
If he's a first teamer, he should be on first team money.
If he then thinks that he is worth more, then he is welcome to find a club that will pay it.
I think he'd struggle to get into one of those teams that would pay more, unless it was a smaller club wanting him as one of their star players.

He’s been one of our better players consitently when given regular playing time and one of a handful in the squad I can see starting for a side that wins things.

Either way I think it’s silly to blame Herrera considering we were held over a barrel by Fellaini last summer and yet again extended Phil Jones last month.

 

[davidmichael]

I honestly don’t see Herrera leaving at all unless we don’t offer him a new contract as it’s been reported he has no intention of leaving and wants to stay, I’d imagine he’s told the United board he doesn’t want to leave too and that he’s happy which is why a new contract hasn’t yet been signed.

Reality is we could upgrade on Herrera but it’d cost a lot of money and we’ve far more pressing areas that need strengthening and upgrading. I would like to see us sign Rabiot on a free and go into next season with a group of Pogba, Herrera, Rabiot, Matic, Fred, McTominay, Pereira, Gomes and Garner which I think is strong enough.

 

[-Supreme-]

In the almost five years since he arrived, has he even managed to make it through one season as an undisputed first choice? He seems to have fallen in and out of favour regularly. I like him, but I think he gets away with murder at times based upon being likeable and apparently 'getting' the club. He would be a squad player at best if we had any sort of handle on recruitment.

Couldn’t agree more.

 

[Sky1981]

Shows how easy it is to fool the fans. I never get why people wanted him to become captain, he throws a few smiles and runs his bollocks on the pitch granted, but people acted as if he loves the club from the bottom of his heart.

The man is a spanish born and bred, i get it if he likes a spanish club but i dont expect him to become like evra.

 

[Spielmacher]

What are people getting so wound up about? It's just rumours that started with The Sun. Well liked player courted by big foreign club. The fact that we just played PSG makes it even spicier. Easy clicks. Typical articles you can expect in every international break.

Would be hilarious if it happened though, with us just signing Phil Jones on a new contract.

 

[tenpoless]

He's not the best midfielder but We have no one better to fill that right hand side of midfield three.
People need to stop downplaying his ability just because of media bollocks, would you play Fred week in and week out instead? nonsense. I hope He stays.

 

[rampo]

This forum is a typical case study in human cognitive bias. As soon as Herrera is linked with PSG, people start downplaying his abilities while ignoring the fact that he has been instrumental in our revival under OGS and also being extremely important in our wins against top 6 teams.

He will be a loss once he leaves and we will have to splash another 40-50 mn to replace him. That is so impractical especially when we have other pressing positions that need to be filled (RW, CB, RB, CM backup)

 

[Devil77]

This forum is a typical case study in human cognitive bias. As soon as Herrera is linked with PSG, people start downplaying his abilities while ignoring the fact that he has been instrumental in our revival under OGS and also being extremely important in our wins against top 6 teams.

He will be a loss once he leaves and we will have to splash another 40-50 mn to replace him. That is so impractical especially when we have other pressing positions that need to be filled (RW, CB, RB, CM backup)

This! Well put.

 

[el3mel]

In the almost five years since he arrived, has he even managed to make it through one season as an undisputed first choice? He seems to have fallen in and out of favour regularly. I like him, but I think he gets away with murder at times based upon being likeable and apparently 'getting' the club. He would be a squad player at best if we had any sort of handle on recruitment.

Yep. The season he won the United POTY.

The underrating for Herrera here to downplay his importance is ridiculous. No worry for you all, he will soon leave and we will see how our midfield will fare without him then.

 

[buckooo1978]

the fact he didn't nail down a place under Van Gaal and Jose is more about their poor management than Anders ability

hes comfortably a better holding midfielder than Matic

 

[Andersonson]

Nah mate, I think you'll find you were the one who brought up international football as evidence as to why Herrera wasn't good enough in the first place. And when I brought up Carrick as proof this is a stupid way to rate a player, you somehow thought counting caps was a good way to counter this. The Spain side was significantly harder to get into, and yet the likes of Milner and Henderson have more caps than Carrick. It's almost as if that's a terrible metric to measure the ability of a player...

The Spain side WAS very hard to get into, I agree. But not anymore. It aint a terrible metric either, and my point still stands. Overrated by own fans other fans see him as mediocre. Which he is.

Some fans even want him as captain. For me thats bizarre, since he aint good enough for a side that wants to win

 

[-Supreme-]

the fact he didn't nail down a place under Van Gaal and Jose is more about their poor management than Anders ability

hes comfortably a better holding midfielder than Matic

The fact that our 3 managers (including Ole) have not played him in the holding midfielder since Matic is here it clearly proves you don’t know what you are really talking about

 

[ivaldo]

The Spain side WAS very hard to get into, I agree. But not anymore. It aint a terrible metric either, and my point still stands. Overrated by own fans other fans see him as mediocre. Which he is.

Some fans even want him as captain. For me thats bizarre, since he aint good enough for a side that wants to win

There's credibility in not trying to introduce what would be a 30 year old into the squad for the next major tournament, and the interest from both PSG and Barca goes entirely against your claim no other big teams are in for him.

In terms of a ball winning midfielder, good luck in finding one that significantly better while still providing the same technical ability on the ball. It's a lack of understanding of what he actually does and how important it is to our side.

 

[F miah]

Utd can’t let Andre Herrera go. In past 3 months his been the best box to box midfielder in the PL and we need to add to the squad, not let our best players leave.

I hope this is not true

 

[GM K]

This forum is a typical case study in human cognitive bias. As soon as Herrera is linked with PSG, people start downplaying his abilities while ignoring the fact that he has been instrumental in our revival under OGS and also being extremely important in our wins against top 6 teams.

He will be a loss once he leaves and we will have to splash another 40-50 mn to replace him. That is so impractical especially when we have other pressing positions that need to be filled (RW, CB, RB, CM backup)

Good points mate.

What people miss about Ander is that while one may argue he is not world class, he is a superb player to have in a squad because of his energy, willingness to do the dirty jobs, ability to play to instructions and good attitude even when benched. These traits are massively underrated in football today. Ander will be a big asset to a team like PSG or any other top team in Europe with winning ambitions.

 

[Freak]

Please don't take my Ander away!

 

[RD94]

He is a decent player but nothing more.Offers just pressing in attacking sense,cant pass a ball or shoot,nothing more defensively either.Such a overrated player.We should keep him only as a backup in case he doesnt get much higher wages.We will not get near the 1st place in league with players like him and Mata for example:30+year old average players declining and give them new big money contracts and more years of suffering behind City and Liverpool.

 

[Jim Beam]

Offers just pressing in attacking sense,cant pass a ball or shoot

Quite strange (if this is true) that he is targeted by attacking, possession based team. Or not so, when you realise that you could argue he played his best attacking football under Bielsa who is similar in terms of high-tempo, possession based football.

Maybe our past tactics are somewhat to blame.

 

[BurtSpangle]

He's one of the best in the world in his role, we'll struggle to replace him. Would be verging on the negligent to let him go for free whilst players like Jones get new contracts.

 

[RD94]

Quite strange (if this is true) that he is targeted by attacking, possession based team. Or not so, when you realise that you could argue he played his best attacking football under Bielsa who is similar in terms of high-tempo, possession based football.

Maybe our past tactics are somewhat to blame.

He is not a bad player,just an massively overrated one.His club level is Athletic Bilbao or some mid table club.His main strenght is pressing and he is a smart player but lacks so much quality in every aspect of a lets say box to box midfielder or a dm.For a box to box he cant shoot,no forward passing,slow,no agility or balance just smart movement now and then.For dm he doesnt need speed but again no passing from him or controlling the tempo of the game same as matic.Too slow in pace and in ball movement in midfield.We cant control the game or just play possesion football with him in our midfield(matic also).We need more quality attributes in our players in our midfield than just be good at pressing.

 

[Ish]

Quite strange (if this is true) that he is targeted by attacking, possession based team. Or not so, when you realise that you could argue he played his best attacking football under Bielsa who is similar in terms of high-tempo, possession based football.

Maybe our past tactics are somewhat to blame.

The downgrading of Herrera is a bit weird tbh. No ones ever proclaimed him world class...he’s won out POTY award....but here we have some saying he’s extremely overrated? Wow.

 

[AJ10]

The underrating of Ander on here.

 

[Ekeke]

He is a decent player but nothing more.Offers just pressing in attacking sense,cant pass a ball or shoot,nothing more defensively either.Such a overrated player.We should keep him only as a backup in case he doesnt get much higher wages.We will not get near the 1st place in league with players like him and Mata for example:30+year old average players declining and give them new big money contracts and more years of suffering behind City and Liverpool.

I hope this is the worst post of your 9.

 

[Ekeke]

This forum is a typical case study in human cognitive bias. As soon as Herrera is linked with PSG, people start downplaying his abilities while ignoring the fact that he has been instrumental in our revival under OGS and also being extremely important in our wins against top 6 teams.

He will be a loss once he leaves and we will have to splash another 40-50 mn to replace him. That is so impractical especially when we have other pressing positions that need to be filled (RW, CB, RB, CM backup)

Its just the people who think he wouldnt get into our rivals teams and no top club would want him, changing their argument now that PSG are linked to him. Barcelona were last year as well.

So they can no longer say no other top team would want him, so now its that they do seem to want him but he's shit so they can have him

 

[Jim Beam]

The downgrading of Herrera is a bit weird tbh. No ones ever proclaimed him world class...he’s won out POTY award....but here we have some saying he’s extremely overrated? Wow.

A bit strange tbf. Don't mind people thinking he could be upgraded in time. But, people talking like he is some mediocre player or hasn't shown his qualities are strange to say the least.

Hope we sort his contract asap. I am pretty sure he has other offers on the table.

 

[Ish]

A bit strange tbf. Don't mind people thinking he could be upgraded in time. But, people talking like he is some mediocre player or hasn't shown his qualities are strange to say the least.

Hope we sort his contract asap. I am pretty sure he has other offers on the table.

Yeah. I agree, especially with the upgraded bit. But we have about 4-6 other positions and players needing upgrading much more urgently, and we won't have the budget to fill it all. Hence it is in our best interest to not lose Herrera.

 

[Jim Beam]

But we have about 4-6 other positions and players needing upgrading much more urgently, and we won't have the budget to fill it all.

That is the biggest problem. Although tbh and if I was asked, I would keep him even if the team had much higher quality.
Just a great player to have in the team and as an option.

 

[Ish]

That is the biggest problem. Although tbh and if I was asked, I would keep him even if the team had much higher quality.
Just a great player to have in the team and as an option.

Yeah, I am with you. Not many great teams consisted of 11 world class players. You always need players like Herrera to compliment your stars, whether it is with their attitude, desire, work rate or intelligence. And it's not as if he's a Championship level player and he's always a model professional who gives his best.

 

[iluvoursolskjær]

Hes no world beater but as things stand is an incredibly important first team player for Ole's system. Supports DM and works box to box transitioning from defence to attack.

The way we handle contracts and deal with recruitment is absolutely absurd. The disconnect between what the manager needs and what we end up getting/retaining is feckin stupid.

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

Mr 'Ander should be United captain' running down his contract?

Our faults anyway. Should have offered him a big package last season. He could easily drop into the holding midfielder position.

 

[Champagne Football]

The Alexis Sanches has them all thinking they can take the club for a ride now. I can remember Mourinho's words to the press when he was trying to put pressure on Ed to break the bank for Sanches. Something along the lines of 'All the great clubs have a world class star attacker, PSG have Neymar, Madrid have Cristiano, here at Manchester we do not have an attacker of this level'.

Some mess his transfer has left. I'd say Ed would drive him to Shanghai himself if he could find a way to get rid.

 

[wolvored]

The Alexis Sanches has them all thinking they can take the club for a ride now. I can remember Mourinho's words to the press when he was trying to put pressure on Ed to break the bank for Sanches. Something along the lines of 'All the great clubs have a world class star attacker, PSG have Neymar, Madrid have Cristiano, here at Manchester we do not have an attacker of this level'.

Some mess his transfer has left. I'd say Ed would drive him to Shanghai himself if he could find a way to get rid.

The genie is out of the bottle now. Even if we got shut of Sanchez, which I doubt he will leave the money he is on, all the players agents will know Utd will pay that bit more, if pushed.