Ander Herrera to PSG? | Gone.

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Sounds shite but you simply don’t let character walk out of clubs.

We should work to sign players that leave him on the fringe. But he’s easily justifiable as a great squad player. Anyone that suggests he’s not is being obtuse.
 
I wonder what the transfer budget for the summer is because if we have to replace Herrera too, I don't know...that's another 60-70 mil at the very least. And then we have to find someone that doesn't turn out Fred...
Tough window ahead.
 
Ekeke said:
Its just the people who think he wouldnt get into our rivals teams and no top club would want him, changing their argument now that PSG are linked to him. Barcelona were last year as well.

So they can no longer say no other top team would want him, so now its that they do seem to want him but he's shit so they can have him
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How do you know that they want him for the first eleven and not as a squad player though?
 
So we have no manager, no DOF, give Phil Jones, Rojo and Mourinho contracts and we burst our wage structure for a spent player and now it's coming back to bite us in the arse with De Gea...

Ed Woodward's Manchester United are a mess

No wonder Pogba is weighing up his options
 
Ekeke said:
What does that matter? It doesnt change that a top team would want him and on current form he'd probably get picked
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I want him as a squad player too though, and we are also aspiring to be a top team.
 
Not really sure what he means saying that there are stop selections and he knew something will come out. Like the offers will come with so little on his contract?

He could very well play just to get a better deal, but it is obvious we left it late.
 
Janson said:
Not right now, but if the likes of Martial and Rashford develop in to top players, and we buy right in the summer, we can't have players as limited as Herrera starting.
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He isnt limited. Matic is. Ander can do everything you'd want from a midfielder
 
Ekeke said:
He isnt limited. Matic is. Ander can do everything you'd want from a midfielder
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Tend to agree, just lacks an expansive passing range, but his passing game is good generally.
 
Ekeke said:
I think he's capable of it. Might need some encouragement to do it more often.
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You can’t say he’s not limited and then a second later back it up by saying you think someone is capable of something. He’s 29. If he was an expansive passer he’d be known for it. If he could carry the ball through midfield, take players on the turn, and dicate the tempo of the game he’d be a World XI player. He doesn’t do any of those things regularly.
 
Janson said:
Not right now, but if the likes of Martial and Rashford develop in to top players, and we buy right in the summer, we can't have players as limited as Herrera starting.
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Herrera is one of the better players we currently have imo.

The problem is, as has been mentioned, the "standard" the club put with Sanchez ridiculous contract.
 
ForestRGoinUp said:
You can’t say he’s not limited and then a second later back it up by saying you think someone is capable of something. He’s 29. If he was an expansive passer he’d be known for it. If he could carry the ball through midfield, take players on the turn, and dicate the tempo of the game he’d be a World XI player. He doesn’t do any of those things regularly.
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You cant be known for doing everything.
 
Janson said:
Not right now, but if the likes of Martial and Rashford develop in to top players, and we buy right in the summer, we can't have players as limited as Herrera starting.
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Liverpool are literally competing for the top honours & they’ve played a midfield trio of Milner, Henderson & Wijnaldum for a large portion of it. Are you really convinced that you cannot compete at the top with “limited” playees? Personally, I don’t even think he’s limited. You just need to compliment what he offers.

And as you mentioned, we need other areas of the pitch to start firing - attack and defence.
 
Ekeke said:
He isnt limited. Matic is. Ander can do everything you'd want from a midfielder
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Actually I think it's the complete opposite. His positioning isn't great, his passing range is limited, he can't shoot. He is good as a role player but he's far from the complete midfielder.
 
Ish said:
Liverpool are literally competing for the top honours & they’ve played a midfield trio of Milner, Henderson & Wijnaldum for a large portion of it. Are you really convinced that you cannot compete at the top with “limited” playees? Personally, I don’t even think he’s limited. You just need to compliment what he offers.

And as you mentioned, we need other areas of the pitch to start firing - attack and defence.
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Milner and Henderson are very good players. Has anyone actually thought it's possible that those three are a reason why they are competing for top honours?
 
No way can we sell him. After keeping hold of so many substandard players , surely we cannot let go a shining beacon of what it is to be a Manchester United player. Give him the keys to Manchester FFS Woodward, sort it out you plonker.
 
Janson said:
Actually I think it's the complete opposite. His positioning isn't great, his passing range is limited, he can't shoot. He is good as a role player but he's far from the complete midfielder.
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If he cant shoot how come he has goals and Matic doesnt. His positioning often makes up for Matic being out of position. Matic has a better range of passing usually, but thats it. If he didnt have Ander doing the majority of his defending work, he'd be out of here
 
RedFish said:
No way can we sell him. After keeping hold of so many substandard players , surely we cannot let go a shining beacon of what it is to be a Manchester United player. Give him the keys to Manchester FFS Woodward, sort it out you plonker.
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Meh, so what if he goes?

If we've stopped giving into contract demands all of a sudden it would appear the board are offloading Sanchez in the summer. He's broken the wage structure and we can't start inflating everyone's salary because someone else is paid x amount.

He's flirting with other clubs and running his contract down, how is that a shining beacon of United? We don't want players that don't want to be here.
 
11101 said:
But none of them are available and none of them are here. Forget the stat junkies, he's a very good player who does a specific job for us better than most and he has the right mentality. No stat can quantify that but he's a player who would have been right at home under Ferguson. Losing him would be a big problem for us.
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Of course they are.
Every player in the world has a price and if we choose to we can buy them.
This is herrera we are talking about here.
 
Ekeke said:
Of course he's not the best midfielder in the world.

But he's incredibly important to us, because without him a midfield of Pogba and Matic doesnt work.

He does all the running and ball winning that those 2 lack. So the only way to replace him is with someone who would also do all the running and ball winning that they dont do.

A similarish player would be Alan at Napoli. He wins more tackles than Ander, but intercepts a lot less. And he hasnt scored a single goal this season where Ander has come up with a couple of important ones for us. So even probably the most similar player we could replace him with, doesnt actually replace what he brings to the team

So no, there arent better versions of him out there to buy. There are different versions. People who have different strengths and weaknesses that might not be able to make the Pogba and Matic combination actually work
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As i said to the guy before you every player in the world has a price.
This isnt some top tier player we are talking about here. We are talking about ander herrera mate.
And even if it was a top tier player we have enough funds to purchase them if we choose to.
 
Much like the majority of our squad, Herrera is replaceable, quite easily. But do I trust the club to manage that task on what I've seen in the last few years? Not at all. Thus my worry about our best players being linked away.
 
If this ends up happening it's possibly the concrete piece of news that has made me the saddest since ... the Moyes' appointment. Love the guy, genuinely thought he might end up with the armband eventually.
 
Janson said:
Not right now, but if the likes of Martial and Rashford develop in to top players, and we buy right in the summer, we can't have players as limited as Herrera starting.
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And Rashford isn't limited? Was Darren Fletcher a beacon of total football?

I don't see anyone in this thread comparing Herrera to Modric or Scholes. He simply isn't that level. That doesn't mean he can't be important to us building a winning side though. He does pretty much everything well and harasses the opposition to no end just as Fletcher used to. And more importantly, aside from Pogba he's better than anyone else we have at the moment by a large margin.

I understand the underrating of him in this thread about as well I understand the club not making him a priority to extend this season.
 
crossy1686 said:
Meh, so what if he goes?

If we've stopped giving into contract demands all of a sudden it would appear the board are offloading Sanchez in the summer. He's broken the wage structure and we can't start inflating everyone's salary because someone else is paid x amount.

He's flirting with other clubs and running his contract down, how is that a shining beacon of United? We don't want players that don't want to be here.
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Doesn't seem like that, does it? Looks more like negligence from Ed. Also flirting with other clubs? He just said this rumours will be coming if he is out of contract in 3 months. Isn't that true, if they were other players who contract about to finish, wouldn't we also try for them?
 
Janson said:
Not right now, but if the likes of Martial and Rashford develop in to top players, and we buy right in the summer, we can't have players as limited as Herrera starting.
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Herrera isn't limited player. He is superb defensively and contributes to attacks. His numbers are decent to good for a midfielder.
 
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It's only because of the money that he's off. We have offered him wages which are pretty much par for his skills, though you could make a case for him by arguing that we overpay the likes of Lingard or even Martial in all honesty.

I assume we will get in replacements, so I am not worried. Important thing is to give Solksjaer a proper budget with none of the "no-value-in-the-market" nonsense. Then we can replace or upgrade in all the required positions.
 
Janson said:
Milner and Henderson are very good players. Has anyone actually thought it's possible that those three are a reason why they are competing for top honours?
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If you watch Liverpool play they're not. They do a job but are not instrumental. I hope you don't mesh they're better than Herrera.
 
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