He obviously hasn't agreed on a new contract. He isn't running his contract down.
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Why do you assume that? We'll need to get upgrades on about 5 positions and I'm not sure we will get all we require.
That £50K difference over four years amounts to roughly £10M. If that's what we're possibly losing him over, then considering the costs of replacing him it's the definition of being penny wise and pound stupid.
He is a natural leader, a likeable player, plays everygame his socks off and I think he really likes the team. But we shouldn’t renew him if he asks for more than deserved.
Due to his football style the years will punch him hard and once his legs are gone he won’t have much to offer.
We need to start making ice cold decisions if we want to get back to the top. Renewing players and overpaying them is what makes us one of the teams with highest wages in the world and still have players in the starting XI such as Young and recently Valencia.
I like Herrera, I really do but we shouldn’t offer a contract longer that 2 years with an option for a third.
Due to his football style the years will punch him hard and once his legs are gone he won’t have much to offer.
We need to start making ice cold decisions if we want to get back to the top. Renewing players and overpaying them is what makes us one of the teams with highest wages in the world and still have players in the starting XI such as Young and recently Valencia.
I like Herrera, I really do but we shouldn’t offer a contract longer that 2 years with an option for a third.
So we give Jones a new contract but not Ander? How does that work. Who has worked out that he hasn't earned that 50k difference?
Judging by his words, PSG move is a legitimate option. Really hope he stays with us though.
We shouldn’t have gave Jones an extention either but that doesn’t mean we should make the same mistake twice.
We really don’t know what Ander is asking for, is pure speculation.
It's just strange that we're making those ice cold decisions with Ander and haven't done it with the likes of Jones and Rojo.
He's at his physical peak. Who is to say, after signing the new shiny contract, he may soon start declining, say in 1 or 2 years. His style is not like players such as Scholes, Carrick and Pirlo which lends itself to longevity and peak performances in advanced age.
The only midfielder who we really really need to renew is Pogba. His peak and best years are ahead of him. If we lose him, it would be akin to losing Ronaldo at the age of 24.
. Make him our highest paid player.
The only midfielder who we really really need to renew is Pogba. His peak and best years are ahead of him. If we lose him, it would be akin to losing Ronaldo at the age of 24.
. Make him our highest paid player.Ridiculous.Herrera is very much a limited player in many parts of the game.Passing forward is nowhere near quality our team needs,cant run with a ball,cant shoot.Good at pressing and one twos,every now and then some run in to the box,defensively offers nothing special.He is not good enough for our squad.Matic is the same story.Good at protecting the ball at his feet because of his height.Passing range also very bad ,and slow.Both of these two need upgrading.Not bad players and have their qualities but not enough to be near our first team.
His passing game is one his worst attributes.His passing range is quick one twos with which he tries to compensate lack of any range.
Totally agree.Limited in many parts.Good at less and not enough good to be considered irreplaceble or a must keep player.
Just guessing but 100 or 150k per week is not a big difference and something that can't be solved. A problem could be the length of the contract though.
Sorry bud. Was fast asleep by the time you replied.
For sure. I never said Henderson or Milner were bad players. I think they're good players - but to a fair extent, "limited" in the Herrera sense of the word as well. IMO, you can build a title challenging/winning team with these players.
Yeah, I'd think so. It's probably his last big contract. So a 3-4 year contract will give him much more security than a 1-2 year contract.
Aye, mind boggling.
We've stuffed our wage bill up so drastically since SAF's retirement, overpaying for absolute dross/bang average/past it players. IIRC we have the second highest wage bill in Europe? That's terrible, considering the state of the squad.
I have no issue trying to start "rectifying" these overpaid pros, but to start doing it with one of the few who arguably deserves it....timing hey.
If that's the case, we would probably solve everything if we offered a new contract at the right time or at least year ago. Oh, well..
Can't blame him for looking what's best for him at this point in his career.
Seems we've left it too late, yeah. Maybe thinking he'd sign no matter what was offered and now PSG has come in with a better offer?
I'll say it again, I've always been a massive Herrera fan, but i won't pretend that he's world class. He can definitely have been upgraded on....eventually. Just, the timing sucks, because we have about 4-5 other priority positions we need to fill before we even think about his. He's been one of our best performers under Ole.
I expect a fierce defence from someone with that username!Ed may be naive at a few things but I guarantee that not a soul at the club would let the best players run their contracts down and walk away on a free. I'm sure contract renewals are a monthly/yearly discussion at board level and this isn't a surprise to anyone at that area of the club.
Herrera has talked about his love for United and how he's at the best club he could possibly be at etc multiple times. All of a sudden he's changed his tune to we're the 'biggest team in England' nothing more, nothing less.
If PSG have offered him more money and that's what he wants then he should go, we don't need players doing a Fellani and running around to other European clubs saying "look what I can get here! You need to match it". Just feck them all off and get the players in that want to play for the shirt and pay them what they're worth.
As I said in my previous post, Sanchez has to go this summer because his salary is causing a lot of these problems.
Well his salary seems to have broken the wage structure and some of our biggest names are reluctant to re-sign unless they're offered some sort of parity. We either watch most of our players walk away from the club on free transfers after running their contracts down or we jettison him and bring a workable wage structure back.
Hope he stays. Replacing him will be very expensive and we have other positions to worry about.
Aye, agree with everything.
Brilliant strategy though. Renew Rojo and Jones, leave Herrera contract for the last few months and lose him on a free. After that, buy Rojo and Jones replacements.
Special Ed strikes again.
To be fair, we don't really know what the strategy will be this coming summer, I'm sure the board have a plan. It's easy to criticise now after Mourinho and the season we've had I think we'll see some big changes in the summer.
Surely there has to be some method behind all this perceived madness?
Fingers crossed.
Wd will hire a DOF and it will be all great from then.
There has to be, they generally don't let us down. It's usually a cycle of people saying Woodward hasn't got a clue what he's doing (around this time of season) then in the summer offering to blow him. So I'll wait until August before I lose my shit over the contract situations.Surely there has to be some method behind all this perceived madness?
Fingers crossed.
Bet Jones is on more than £100,00 or even if the same, Jones is a liability. Ander is an asset.
Some of these are a bit meh. "He can't run with the ball".
He's playing in central midfield and his job is primarily to make the play flow. Runs are not what you want from him. He's a typical fast spanish passer in the tiki taka mould making Pogba and the team tick. His passing game is not compensation, its making our transitions and play faster.
What's Ole's opinion in all that? I think his words got some weight too, and I don't see him let Ander leave, especially at that time.
Give squad players like Jones, Smalling etc new contracts, pay Sanchez £350k a week and let one of our best midfield players go because he wants 50k a week extra, somebody has really fecked up here
Am absolutely in awe with the work he has done in the last 6 years.
It's like Fellaini, he's in the final "big" contract of his career and he wants to make sure he gets the best deal possible - I don't blame him.
We will settle on a deal eventually in the middle i'm sure. He loves it here, i'd be really surprised to see him move. No way will Ole want to lose him either, not this soon.
We will settle on a deal eventually in the middle i'm sure. He loves it here, i'd be really surprised to see him move. No way will Ole want to lose him either, not this soon.
I wish I had the confidence some on here have about us replacing him well. The last thing we needed was one of the better midfielders to leave, meaning another essential purchase for the shopping list. It's a bit of a nightmare.
He's done all of these things during his time at United. Seems you need to watch us more often.
The question is: Is Ander a £150k a week kind of player? He doesnt score a lot of goals and he's not irreplacable. Thats a big salary.
Contracts set precedents. I'd be very concerned about putting out big contracts to everyone all the time. I do aknowledge that Herrera is an important piece of our midfield, but thats a big ask from the club to match the PSG salary if they don't want to raise the salary roof for everyone when they come talking.
Ander might like Ole, but Ole is not going to say nice enough words for him to leave £50k on the table.
Contracts set precedents. I'd be very concerned about putting out big contracts to everyone all the time. I do aknowledge that Herrera is an important piece of our midfield, but thats a big ask from the club to match the PSG salary if they don't want to raise the salary roof for everyone when they come talking.
Ander might like Ole, but Ole is not going to say nice enough words for him to leave £50k on the table.
Did this club win trophies after Ronaldo left? Yes they did. A potential Herrera departure wont be the end.
Of course it won't
no one believes it would be. But if you can honestly look at our squad and say losing Herrera and needing to replace him along with all the other issues we have in the team is a good thing to deal with, you're lying. We still don't know what's going to happen with De Gea either, this could be just the tip of the iceberg for players we want to stay leaving.100k is a bit of a joke if true. The likes of Rojo and Jones get more ffs. PSG offering more money and a longer contract is a good reason to move on. Underappreciated all these years and then getting a shit contract to top it off. The fans love him, Ed doesnt it seems.
It's really disappointing to see our club heckling with Herrera and De Gea and risk losing both of them - what a let down!
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