Yeah when I read your post that clip jumped into my head.That's actually what I had in mind, I have never seen the show though.
It was one of my favourite comedy shows. The last couple of seasons were not so good though.
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It was one of my favourite comedy shows. The last couple of seasons were not so good though.
Surely people can’t still vote Tories after this. At least labour are somewhat less self serving and evil, even if they are about as incompetent.You reckon? Think you underestimate the electorate.
You wait.
Hopefully. Split the cnuts vote and let the half sensible parties sort the thing out.
"An exit which benefits everyone" ugh, has a scenario ever been even proposed where that statement can possibly come true?
A lot less will, but less will vote for labour too so I can imagine Tories still holding the majority.
No deal should never ever be an option. It violates an internation peace treaty ffs. If they wanted to do it right, a vote should be held between revoke A50 or pass May’s deal, this is the only way to respect the result of the referendum and give people a clear idea of what they are voting for.
Fair enough, doesn't mean we shouldn't support revoke A50 though.
Looks like tomorrow's votes will be for which unicorn do you want.
EU shakes head in despair.
EU shakes head in despair.
Yesterday I thought May was a bitch for saying might ignore the indicative votes but now I'm slightly sympathetic. I think Bercow will whittle down the list so hopefully we are at least left with decent alternatives but the only one I've seen is a confirmatory vote.
Let's have thousands of unicorns lined up across the Mexican Irish border.
And the Irish will pay for the unicorns
Of those I've seen so far, there aren't any realistic alternatives.
They don't send their best people. Coming up here with their accents, stealing our women.
It absolutely would undermine democracy. A second vote is the only option.
It's cute people thought this would've made a difference anyway.
Signed by people from all over the world and has the ability for one person to sign it numerous times over.
I think I actually hate her.Headmistress has spoken.
Yeah that petition is a load of shite to be honest, but coupled with the huge demonstrations in London it shows that obviously there is a large remain voice in the country that can’t be ignored.
It will be interesting to see how many votes this one gets.
Would it though? Perhaps clearly explaining that the referendum was in fact, advisory, and not a binding vote would go a long way, because it's something that is often ignored and rarely mentioned by the media when discussing Brexit, and doesn't appear to be common knowledge.
The fact that we had an advisory referendum, won by a narrow majority, following a campaign fraught with with illegal funding and outright lies, and that near three years on, we have no clear direction or course of action to actually carry out the result, would suggest to me that there is certainly at least some merit to revoking Article 50.
They could even caveat it with a promise to revisit the result in x number of years, after carrying out proper impact assessments, and detailing actual exit strategies that ensure the country is better off outside of the EU, as should be the case for us to leave.
This "leave at all costs" mentality is absolutely insane, and no government should be pandering so obviously to a group of vocal morons who want something to happen despite the seemingly obvious wide-spread, damaging consequences it will have.
EDIT: Also, any undermining of the democratic process that could have happened has already happened when a) Vote Leave was won through illegal funding and blatant lies, b) a snap election was called to consolidate power for the current PM, but actually only kept her in a job courtesy of a £1 billion bribe slung at a bunch of mercenary, god-bothering lunatics from Northern Ireland and c) the current PM is attempting to table a deal that has already been voted down heavily on two occasions already, without making any changes.
I thought this had been debunked.
It has. You could sign it, and multiple times with different emails, but they did a nightly purge based on the electoral register to stop people signing it with multiple emails and fake names, so they wouldn't ultimately count towards the total figure.
Dont know I've read peoples tweets saying they've signed it numerous times, all it takes is a creating a new email account which takes literally 5 minutes on gmail.
800,000 citizens live outside the UK. 200,000 entries from overseas. And most of the "multiple votes" get rejected after they are entered. You could use multiple real email addresses and fake names but even then most will rejected by data matching and the principle bot type methods don't work.
It has pretty much.
Lots of leave enthusiasts have been falsely making the claim to try to discredit the petition.
None of those reasons will wash with most leave voters though, very few give a damn about illegal funding which at the end of the day is basically a technicality. You have a point wrt the lies told as I’m sure plenty of people will believed the £350m to the NHS lie and would have been swayed by that, plenty of those people would likely vote remain if given another chance.
Leavers will see any attempt at revoking article 50 as a betrayal and it’s not as though it would be only a few thousand, it would be millions, it also wouldn’t sit well with a lot of remain supporters I’d imagine, which is why a second vote is the only way forward.
Completely agree on your points about May and the DUP, it’s beyond a joke and the less said about that shower the better. May’s attempts at putting her deal through parliament have been pathetic.
The fact remains though that more people voted to leave than to remain, at the time no one knew exactly what leave meant, now we have a vision of that through May’s deal, so I think this should be put to the people again, leave or remain now that we know what leaving looks like.
One thing you probably could do is sign it for your grandparents or some other person you know wouldn't ordinarily be aware of it. I bet there's a thousand or so of those sorts of signature floating around.
So they continue with the leave means leave bullshit.
What happens if they revoke A50, spend the next indeterminate number of years coming to an agreement all sides can support. Putting aside a sensible amount of time each parliamentary session, so they actually get on with running the country in the meantime.
Then, in about 2050, when they have a solution, reinvoke A50 again.
Job done, everyone is happy
What happens if they revoke A50, spend the next indeterminate number of years coming to an agreement all sides can support. Putting aside a sensible amount of time each parliamentary session, so they actually get on with running the country in the meantime.
Then, in about 2050, when they have a solution, reinvoke A50 again.
Job done, everyone is happy
I'm not sure how democratic acting on an uninformed, lie ridden referendum that came out more or less 50/50 actually is. Particularly when one side spent loads of money illegally on their campaign.
A referendum would usually involve explaining the options and what they mean to the people and letting them decide. Not telling them to decide then explaining what it actually means after.
I am enjoying what a mess this is. MPs literally voting on whether they should be allowed to vote on things, among which is the option about whether to vote on things. It's actually amazing how useless they all are when they actually have to do something other than talk shite...I mean in spite of the fact I already presumed they were all completely useless.
I hope it carries on forever.
A referendum would usually involve explaining the options and what they mean to the people and letting them decide. Not telling them to decide then explaining what it actually means after.
I am enjoying what a mess this is. MPs literally voting on whether they should be allowed to vote on things, among which is the option about whether to vote on things. It's actually amazing how useless they all are when they actually have to do something other than talk shite...I mean in spite of the fact I already presumed they were all completely useless.
I hope it carries on forever.
My point is that they shouldn't be blindly pandering to the leave voters though, regardless of how vocal or angry they get. The fact that no one voting leave really knew what they were voting for is another reason to at the very least revoke article 50 so the actual nature of leaving the EU can be determined.
As it is we're two days shy of the original deadline, without the remotest idea of how leaving the EU will actually work. It's a farce, and no amount of shouting from Wetherspoons-frequenting day-time drinkers should influence the government's handling of it, but it quite obviously has.
I dunno, when I signed it i had to give my postal address and name, then confirm I received an email. I think the site then periodically cross references names and postcodes from the electoral roll and purges any that are duplicates / don't match. You can still probably game it somewhat but it does seem to have a few protocols which will likely make it more or less accurate.
No, British Citizens can sign it wherever they are in the world, as I did although I know it's pointless.
Most of the more stubborn Leave supporters I know of are the type who nothing will sit well with. Even if we leave without a deal they will turn their attention to something else. Young people, foreigners who don't get kicked out, Raheem Sterling, benefits etc...
It's pretty pointless trying to keep people happy who are determined to act like victims of everyone else's existence. If anything a second vote or going back on the first will give them something to focus on for a while that might actually do some good. THe government and parliament in general would get slaughtered for creating the whole mess, and rightly so.
The time to stop looking for a solution that wont upset millions of people was as soon as the referendum result revealed only a 2% majority. Even if it was a simple process, one way or another half the country wouldn't be happy. Turns out our government has flounced it up so much that even the half who do get what they want will now be unhappy. The half who don't will settle down into a seething rage once they've set a few buildings on fire.
So why sign it?