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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Scottish Tories are beyond pathetic.
That didn’t happen.
It did, although I should've said 'tended to correspond'.
https://www.economist.com/britain/2016/07/14/explaining-the-brexit-vote
"Although immigration featured heavily in the Brexit campaign, areas with the most migrants—notably London—were among those most likely to vote Remain (see chart 1). Mint-tea-sipping metropolitans may find it absurd that people in areas with comparatively few foreigners should be so keen to curb migration. But consider the change in numbers, rather than the total headcount, and the opposite pattern emerges (chart 2). Where foreign-born populations increased by more than 200% between 2001 and 2014, a Leave vote followed in 94% of cases. The proportion of migrants may be relatively low in Leave strongholds such as Boston, Lincolnshire, but it has soared in a short period of time. High numbers of migrants don’t bother Britons; high rates of change do."
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It did, although I should've said 'tended to correspond'.
https://www.economist.com/britain/2016/07/14/explaining-the-brexit-vote
"Although immigration featured heavily in the Brexit campaign, areas with the most migrants—notably London—were among those most likely to vote Remain (see chart 1). Mint-tea-sipping metropolitans may find it absurd that people in areas with comparatively few foreigners should be so keen to curb migration. But consider the change in numbers, rather than the total headcount, and the opposite pattern emerges (chart 2). Where foreign-born populations increased by more than 200% between 2001 and 2014, a Leave vote followed in 94% of cases. The proportion of migrants may be relatively low in Leave strongholds such as Boston, Lincolnshire, but it has soared in a short period of time. High numbers of migrants don’t bother Britons; high rates of change do."
Am I reading this right... A 500% increase over 14 years equals 10% of the population, taking the town they use as an example?
Boston has a population of about 35k so that means using those figures an average of 200 immigrants moved there per year over a period of 14 years. How do these people cope with such a shock to the system.
High numbers of migrants don’t bother Britons; high rates of change do. Haha.
This is what I was thinking. Very misleading to insinuate anything else from those graphs.
It did, although I should've said 'tended to correspond'.
https://www.economist.com/britain/2016/07/14/explaining-the-brexit-vote
"Although immigration featured heavily in the Brexit campaign, areas with the most migrants—notably London—were among those most likely to vote Remain (see chart 1). Mint-tea-sipping metropolitans may find it absurd that people in areas with comparatively few foreigners should be so keen to curb migration. But consider the change in numbers, rather than the total headcount, and the opposite pattern emerges (chart 2). Where foreign-born populations increased by more than 200% between 2001 and 2014, a Leave vote followed in 94% of cases. The proportion of migrants may be relatively low in Leave strongholds such as Boston, Lincolnshire, but it has soared in a short period of time. High numbers of migrants don’t bother Britons; high rates of change do."
A few months ago, I was looking at Boston's demographics and it's an interesting case, I meant to look at the local policies and the type of jobs that were created in order to create that particular increase. Because clearly someone did something special, a very particular population has been funneled in that locality and it's not a coincidence because we are not talking about an historical immigration destination.
Also not mentioned is the fact that the population in the area is diminishing so it's nothing to do with overpopulation.
Internal migration figures in Table 3 show the movement of people into and out of Lincolnshire's local authority districts from mid-2016 to mid-2017. All of the districts show a positive net balance during the year ending 2017 apart from Boston.
Table 3 - Internal Migration Flows, Year ending June 2017 Source: Office for National Statistics
Local Authority District Inflow Outflow Balance Inflow Outflow Balance
2016 2017
Boston 2100 3,000 -900 2,800 3,100 -300
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/...fter-the-euro-summit-meeting-on-21-june-2019/
Extract:
At the end of our meeting, the EU27 briefly came back to the issue of Brexit. We have agreed on the following, united approach of the EU27:
- we look forward to working together with the next UK Prime Minister;
- we want to avoid a disorderly Brexit and establish a future relationship that is as close as possible with the UK;
- we are open for talks when it comes to the Declaration on the future UK-EU relations if the position of the United Kingdom were to evolve, but the Withdrawal Agreement is not open for renegotiation; and
- we have been informed on the state of play of planning for a no-deal scenario.
Extract:
At the end of our meeting, the EU27 briefly came back to the issue of Brexit. We have agreed on the following, united approach of the EU27:
- we look forward to working together with the next UK Prime Minister;
- we want to avoid a disorderly Brexit and establish a future relationship that is as close as possible with the UK;
- we are open for talks when it comes to the Declaration on the future UK-EU relations if the position of the United Kingdom were to evolve, but the Withdrawal Agreement is not open for renegotiation; and
- we have been informed on the state of play of planning for a no-deal scenario.
Farming... Loads of jobs the locals wouldn't do that the Polish did.
Ha ha. It is ridiculous, isn't it? Textbook case of lying with statistics.
Any doubts Brexit is and always was a Tory project?
Temp work for shite money that’s hard to live on when you’re a permanent UK resident
Hmmm... Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe the locals just think the jobs are beneath them.
This documentary was revealing.
I’d say it’s a bit of both. You can live a relatively comfortable life on benefits in the UK these days but that’s probably a debate for another thread
Question is who's going to do the work when the immigrants have been driven out.
Give over. What do you class as comfortable?
I bet you’re one of those “they have teeeveees in prisons” kinda guy aren’t you.
Brits should if they pay a fair wage but cheap labour is easy to take advantage off.
I’ve been to prison and you get TVs and all kinds of exciting drugs. It’s more comfortable than getting £5 cash in hand an hour on a farm
Remarkable that he and his team thought anyone would believe this.
There’s so much to unpack, what 10 year old knows to capitalise the P in Party when referring to a political entity. Or the use of ellipses, and not an speck of smeared ink or crossed out mistakes?
Plus what 10 year old is called Jim?
There are laws for that (at the moment) but in reality those that pay under the minimum will either make prices shoot up or companies will go out of business.
It happens all the time and isn’t policed at all. How can it be? You can pay shit money to foreign lads on farms and building sites who are more happy to take it for a variety of reasons. The whole culture and structure of the country is a mess
Yeah, I looked into it and it's basically the increase of production in farming and the food processing industry and the industry clearly taking advantage of foreigners. I found that article from 2007 and there are plenty of older ones.
Remarkable that he and his team thought anyone would believe this.
There’s so much to unpack, what 10 year old knows to capitalise the P in Party when referring to a political entity. Or the use of ellipses, and not an speck of smeared ink or crossed out mistakes?
Plus what 10 year old is called Jim?
Remarkable that he and his team thought anyone would believe this.
There’s so much to unpack, what 10 year old knows to capitalise the P in Party when referring to a political entity. Or the use of ellipses, and not an speck of smeared ink or crossed out mistakes?
Plus what 10 year old is called Jim?
What fecking 10 year old gives a shit about Brexit
.The (fellow leaver) bit had me in stitches.
What fecking 10 year old gives a shit about Brexit
The (fellow leaver) bit had me in stitches.
To be honest, it could be genuine. I went to primary school with a lad like that. 10 years old and a major interest in politics. He did a project in his spare time on the falklands war as it happened.
Little sheet needs a slap though.
What fecking 10 year old gives a shit about Brexit
The (fellow leaver) bit had me in stitches.
PM me when you find a single 10 year old that says "my gratitude to you".
Seriously? I can't say I've ever met a 10 year old with those kind of interests. Weird.
Aside from that the handwriting etc all looks far too polished for a child of that age. That entire letter screams middle aged man, not a kid.
'At my school they try and brainwash us to be pro-EU'
Ah yes. Top of the curriculum at that age, alongside finger painting and 'how to make a pencil holder' we have political brainwashing.
have we done Boris the wife-beater yet?
Seriously yeah. His parents were teachers though and he was a high achiever. Went onto a private school for secondary education.
Fair enough, I still think this letter in particular is fake though. Either way it makes me wanna throw up.
Radio 4's Any Questions had a 10 year-old ask a question about climate change tonight. 'How old are you?' asked Dimbleby (he still does the radio questions) and I was hoping the kid would reply 'old enough to know when I'm being fecking patronised', but it wasn't to be.What fecking 10 year old gives a shit about Brexit
The (fellow leaver) bit had me in stitches.
Decent write up here. This could be interesting
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...ed-to-loud-altercation-at-boris-johnsons-home
You really can't. That's a myth.
Haha! I thought the same.
I don’t think the EU was mentioned once in the entirety of my education.
Aye those 10 year olds are always in serious relationships. Sigh.