Westminster Politics

Oscie was mental, definition of extreme centre :lol:
 
I see. Well some of that was fair enough, especially about Eboue, but I never saw his weird obsession with age coming. I mean I'm old ok, but surely the lefties he tended to argue with are on the younger side? Maybe they're not, I don't know, but if he's found himself a forum of exclusively 18 year-olds then good luck to him, he'll need it.
 
Remember the poor guy in the Corbyn thread who laid into him at every opportunity, in the days when oooooo Jeremy Corbyn was still a thing, was thread banned, went on a rant and was perma banned?

Wish he was still here now, just so he could tell the fanbois, "I told you so". I thought he was entertaining, RIP Oscie :(

Was quite amusing when he wound up the Corbyn fanboys. Although I thought they are under 30 criticising older people who had it so easy and following a 70 year old who wants to share out everybody's possessions - in my day it was called stealing.
 
Was quite amusing when he wound up the Corbyn fanboys. Although I thought they are under 30 criticising older people who had it so easy and following a 70 year old who wants to share out everybody's possessions - in my day it was called stealing.
For young people you've got that the wrong way round, they call stealing 'taxing'.
 
So the Lib Dem's precondition for putting Labour in government is removing their elected leader with the largest mandate a figure has had from a party's membership before, and supposedly the Labour left would be obstinate if they refused that. It's a ridiculous demand. They've just let Umunna into their party, who previously advocated leaving the Single Market, explicitly ruled out the prospect of a second referendum, and asserted that he could never forgive the Lib Dems for what they did to his community via austerity. The notion that they'd be unwilling to work with Corbyn even if he backed a second referendum thus exposes their real issue with him is not to do with his Brexit position, and Labour would be right to tell them to feck off if the first term they laid out for securing their support is the removal of their elected leader.

Oh cmon. By painting labour as the brexit party it is under Corbyn, the more likely they are to attract labour remain voters. Telling everyone they won’t do business with the brexiteer Corbyn reinforces their credentials and further weakens labour. It’s good politics to use their opponents weakness against them.

Or put more simply, their message is, if you hate Corbyn’s brexit, vote for Lib Dem’s and they will give him a kicking.
 
For young people you've got that the wrong way round, they call stealing 'taxing'.

I don't mean paying tax - no problems with people paying tax nor with people earning more paying more tax. In fact I don't think people in the UK pay anywhere near enough tax. They should put that in the next Labour manifesto that all taxes should be raised by 10% starting at 30%. I'm sure it will win a lot of votes.
 
I was a member of the labour party till fairly recently but meh
I think Boris will win but at 1/7 on I don't think it's worth backing him
I'd guess about 65%-70% of the vote but honestly I wouldn't bet on anything with Boris as between now and the result he could totally gash it up and might end up just scraping home depending on the gaffes he makes

Next chancellor odds are more interesting I think
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-chancellor

I'd stick some money on saaj and some on mogg

Rumours are Johnson might give it saaj but I wouldn't rule mogg out as an early backer of the Johnson campaign... He must have been promiced something

Put 2/3 on saj and 1/3 on mogg

Say 100 on Saj and 50 on mogg
450 back if mogg gets it
275 if saaj gets it

I thought Mogg has a decent financial background too?

Thanks @sun_tzu i will take a closer look in a bit, I was toying with Boris to get a 55-59.9% at 6/1.

n the last members poll Boris is showing at 67.35% (though with 3.61% showing as other)... as he has gone this far without gashing it up id say over 60% looks very likely... id still guess in the 65-70% range with 62.5 to 72.5 being a broader bet
https://www.conservativehome.com/th...n-on-67-per-cent-and-hunt-on-29-per-cent.html
 
That person should admire the immigrants who come here with nothing and make something for themselves then.
 
Bet his 'lucky' shoes weren't priced at a hundred f*cking pounds though; and he's the type who sets that price after, no doubt, 'pulling himself up by his bootstraps'.
 


I used to think there's no way Trump gets elected here but I'm not so sure these days.
 
Some people will see those stats and still not bother to vote.
 
Stella Creasey and Conor McGinn making actual change from the backbenches, great to see and great for NI.
 
I feel like we're at a low point UK politics.

I tend to have the stomach to watch most politics even that of which i disagree but switching this debate on between Hunt and Boris and my god its intolerable.
 
I feel like we're at a low point UK politics.

I tend to have the stomach to watch most politics even that of which i disagree but switching this debate on between Hunt and Boris and my god its intolerable.
It's excruciating. Same old bs being trotted out.
 
Hunt coming out of this better
 
“Overwhelming verdict” :lol:
 
'Vanishingly inexpensive'. :rolleyes:
 
Hunt brings up Boris voted for the Withdrawal Agreement he's now saying is unacceptable. We could get into a discussion about how he says one thing and then does the opposite...no, let's have a pointless hand raising game instead.

What a media we have. Yet another face happy to let the mop haired gimp walk all over them.
 
I'm reaching the point where I want to see Boris as PM just to see how terrible he actually is.

Of course then I remember that he won't lose out much, whereas ordinary people will.