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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?

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Vernon Philander said:
It's a smart move from a party with only 15 seats
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It was their only remaining option to win votes because let's not forgot they're fighting Labour for votes and would gladly let Tories win a seat rather if they gained some percentage.
 
The difference between how the Tories respond to Howarth vs Swinson is interesting. Is it just the Tories' sexism that makes them more willing to shout at her?
 
Bold move by Lib Dems. Could make sny future GE interesting as many Tory/Labor remain voters will vote for them to avoid leaving if at all possible.
 
Bill Cash should really consider his colleagues before lecturing opposition MPs to respect their constituents. Boris and Mogg constituencies now poll for remain for instance.
 
Berbaclass said:
Bored I’d imagine, as I’m approaching comparable levels of apathy from listening to it.
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The fact that everyone knows that Boris will lose his 6th vote in a row kind of sucks the life out of it. It's all just a piece of theater at this point.
 
Vote result: PM defeated

Ayes: 293

Noes: 46

The PM needed two-thirds of all 650 MPs to support a snap general election if he was to be successful in taking the country to the polls.
 
Corbyn has been on form.

That Tory back bench is something else, smug gits.
 
Grinner said:
Over to Boris to see if he caves or flouts the law. He'll feck it up all by himself.
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He's fecked either way. He's left with either owning the consequences of no deal (and going against the law) or caving in. He really isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.
 
Quite astonishing scenes to watch in parliament as the house is finally 'prorogued' after a lengthy night of abusing each other.

Opposition MPs refuse to go to Lords, and scream 'Shame on You' GoT style as Tories walk out.





 
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Raab basically gave the game away yesterday that they were going to push it to the courts first. I think Grieve said they've already prepared for that though.

Now is he going to resign or will he accept the instructions of the courts rather than parliament

Fecking Tories doing the rounds this morning, make my blood boil
 
sun_tzu said:
I'm sure he's looking for legal cover to get around the law... Most probably we are ending up in the courts (could it end up in the European courts of justice?...)
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Can't see it ending up in the courts. If he refuses by the 20th or so, he'd be out on his ass for a GNU. If he refused that and decided to squat in office, they'd most certainly move for impeachment. He's fecked.
 
owlo said:
Can't see it ending up in the courts. If he refuses by the 20th or so, he'd be out on his ass for a GNU. If he refused that and decided to squat in office, they'd most certainly move for impeachment. He's fecked.
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what is that?
 
Sassy Colin said:
Its an antelope type animal, also known as a wildebeest.

There will never be a Govt of National Unity.
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What about a Govt of National Division?

I expect a hung parliament in an election and therefore we either have a coalition that is a kind of GNU, or we don't have a govt full stop.
 
MadMike said:
What about a Govt of National Division?

I expect a hung parliament in an election and therefore we either have a coalition that is a kind of GNU, or we don't have a govt full stop.
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A Conservative-Brexit Party coalition resulting from a late-November General Election, is probably the most likely outcome now.

I expect Parliament has done enough to avoid a 'no deal' crash out next month, but they will probably be powerless to prevent it in January (assuming that is when the extension expires).

There's always the possibility the Johnson might screw over the (now irrelevant) DUP and negotiate a NI only backstop though I suppose.
 
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Let's say for arguments sake there's another extension till early next year on the proviso of a general election.

The way I see it you'll have the Tories campaigning (with the Brexit party?) to leave with no deal, Labour who are campaigning on a second referendum with the options being revoke or leave with Mays deal and some ribbons (?) and the Lib Dems who will campaign solely on revoke.

The stance that the Lib Dems are taking here is the worrying one as it increases the chances of a Con/Brexit Party government if they pull in a large number of the remain vote solely on that promise and with Swinson refusing to work with a Labour government that has Corbyn at the helm.
 
Lord Heseltine, the pro-European former Conservative deputy prime ministers, said it was a mistake for Dominic Cummings to claim that it was the remain side who represented the views of the wealthy elite:

"If you start talking about who are the richest influential people in this campaign - who owns the Telegraph? Who owns the Sun? Who owns the Daily Mail? People with riches, wealth, of untold millions. They are the ones who appoint the editors of newspapers that are frankly propaganda sheets for Leave. And for Dominic Cummings to try to shove the blame onto individuals who want to remain because they are rich is a major slip of the tongue."


(Sky)
 
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