Westminster Politics

Dominic Raab listing all of Iran's faults. Human rights, Yemen, destabilising the region.


Yes, Iran, not Saudi Arabia who we are more than happy to do billion pound arms deals with.

feck these people.
 
Dominic Raab listing all of Iran's faults. Human rights, Yemen, destabilising the region.


Yes, Iran, not Saudi Arabia who we are more than happy to do billion pound arms deals with.

feck these people.

Haven't we ceased selling arms to SA for the time being?
 
Haven't we ceased selling arms to SA for the time being?

It was ruled unlawful earlier this year but we continue to deal with them and then go "Oops forgot we're not supposed to do that" afterwards.
 
There's many a reason why a referendum is not workable without a GE first. There's no majority in parliament for a referendum act. Because it's not just about the concept of the referendum only, but the question in it.

Lib Dems and SNP would support a referendum of May's Deal vs Remain. Corbyn might, but he wants his own deal so unsure. Hard Brexiteers would call that a betrayal because
a) it could reverse previous result before it's taken place and
b) they see it as Remain vs BINO (Brexit in name only) removing the option of "clean break"

The Tories could perhaps coalesce around a referendum of May's Deal vs No-Deal. But there's no way LibLabSNP would lend support for that. There would be no compromise between these sides.

Even if LibLabSNP + Indies succeed in passing an act for Remain vs May's Deal referendum, the Tories and Farage would simply ask brexiteers to abstain to undermine its legitimacy. Then promise to ignore the result if they get reelected since it's only an advisory referendum, against their agreement, that has been undermined as well. Parliament can't bind it's successor anyways.

So really we need a GE and a parliamentary majority first, in order to return to some semblance of normality.

Spot on very good post.
 
Bridgen trying to say its a new law so Boris didn't do anything wrong. Then dares make the point that the supreme court aren't elected and answerable to the public :rolleyes:
 
Just when I thought the Tories couldn't stop any lower. Here comes Boris and more divisive and dangerous bullshit.

Yeh, until Boris arrived they were being very respectful to each other. They haven't spent the entire day tearing into each other. Just getting the hard work done.
 
Why do i watch this, the worlds going to shit. This is a shameless speech
 
He just implied the supreme court ruling was political maneuvering. My word
 
Yeah, this is disgraceful.

Might not go down as the worst PM, but surely has to be among the most dangerous.
 
Yeh, until Boris arrived they were being very respectful to each other. They haven't spent the entire day tearing into each other. Just getting the hard work done.
I wasn't referring to the MPs exchanges. But to Boris trying to turn a supreme court ruling against him into an alleged anti Brexit attempt. Further division and lies from the Tories. No acceptance that his action were illegal.

Dangerous and inaccurate stance from Johnson.
 
Attacking and implying the supreme court is biased is just so disgraceful and yet sadly not at all surprising from this mob.
 
Election time.

Ones far more realistic than the other here.
Any PM who has just been proven to have broken the law should have the good grace to resign. Instead he trys to drag the country down with him. More dangerous lies trying to blame parliament for his ineptitude.
 
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SNP "end this dictatorship"

Apparent dictator "Let's have an election"

Honestly...
 
This Tory mob get worse every day. What a bunch of cnuts... and here’s Bill Cash. :boring:
 
SNP "end this dictatorship"

Apparent dictator "Let's have an election"

Honestly...

"Apparent dictator" quite clearly only wants to call an election so he can dissolve parliament over October 31st and see us fall out of the EU without him being held accountable for the lack of deal.

You know this, but are being deliberately obtuse.
 
"Apparent dictator" quite clearly only wants to call an election so he can dissolve parliament over October 31st and see us fall out of the EU without him being held accountable for the lack of deal.

You know this, but are being deliberately obtuse.

There’s no point in rising to it. A very poor WUM at this point.
 
"Apparent dictator" quite clearly only wants to call an election so he can dissolve parliament over October 31st and see us fall out of the EU without him being held accountable for the lack of deal.

You know this, but are being deliberately obtuse.

Thanks for saving me the effort of thinking for myself. Appreciated.
 
There’s no point in rising to it. A very poor WUM at this point.

Yes, I have seen that every single poster, even those that disagree on some points but agree on others are referred to as WUMs and other insults by a number of posters here. Mob rule basically.
 
Honestly, I think you get the subtleties of this matter and you're choosing to ....ah, what's the point? Your partizan pedantry is immutable.

Partizan.... :lol:

Come on. While the labour and lib dem supporters here tear each other apart daily I have repeatedly said that all the MPs are a joke. Unfit for purpose.

Commenting against the hyperbole posted towards the Tory's doesn't mean I think very highly of them.