Is there any reason why he’s allowed to continually call it the ‘surrender act’? Normally pulled up for shite like that.
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Seriously? You don't acknowledge that you are, at best, pedantic and obtuse on occasion? It's pretty consistent. You literally got thread banned yesterday for it. You think this is everyone else's fault? That you are a persecuted free thinker telling it straight?
You're clever. I get that. Discuss, debate but, please, drop the sixth form debating tactics. It'd be nice if the front bench of the Govt might do the same at some point.
Johnson should stop refering to the Benn act as the surrender act. Childish.
He won't like you saying that, Laura.
Yes, partizan. I stand by the claim. Shall we set up a thread rather than ruin this one further where I can show the evidence and you can tangentially chunter pedantically in the face of it?Partizan....
Come on. While the labour and lib dem supporters here tear each other apart daily I have repeatedly said that all the MPs are a joke. Unfit for purpose.
Commenting against the hyperbole posted towards the Tory's doesn't mean I think very highly of them.
Fish abandoning.
I take it back. You are impartial.
When or what.
I may be pedantic at times. We all are on occasion.
There is clearly an element though that would prefer an echo chamber. I don't get that. Talking politics with those that agree with you is boring.
That said, I will make a better effort to be less pedantic.
I would much rather discuss the debate occuring right now.
Good. It can be an echo chamber in here and you have good points to make contrary to the prevalent opinion here. I, for one, welcome that. Your points are not helped though by pretending you don't get Blackford's point about dictatorship (a direct reference to unlawful proroguement to stymie Parliament) nor Johnson's campaign mode response.
The standing Government attempted to remove parliamentary scrutiny at possibly the most critical post WWII moment. Their response is to shrug and carry on. It is unsurprising that this is unpopular in Parliament and Blackford's point is clear both in meaning and motivation.
Yeah, the Caf is such a leftist echo chamber that the Corbyn thread is bloody unbearable for leftists.Pretty funny seeing a MP, that you've only heard of because she made up a story about telling Diane Abbott to feck off, demanding honesty
I don't find the Caf to be particularly left wing but I am aware that in parts of the country (and World) my politics would be seen as Bolshevik. I know no-one who voted leave and I do like to see views from the other side even if I rarely see any points that I agree with. I think this thread is overwhelmingly remain in general and, in a sense, is an echo chamber (although this is not an expression I like).
Just saw Desmond Swayne MP on C4, seems a bit of a nutter
Sorry, mate, I should've made it clear that I wasn't criticising your post...I was just moaning in general.
Boris just winding everyone up now with his use of 'surrender act'.
I disagree with the language being used. Dictator just demonstrates laziness and the use of soundbites.
It's the same with Johnson's usage of surrender act.
Can anyone say that today, anything has been achieved in the commons beyond hurling abuse at each other?
No.
He's got absolutely nothing beyond fake outrage.
Labour MP Paula Sherriff just had a withering, emotional outburst in the Commons, saying Johnson should be “ashamed” of his conduct and that MPs had been threatened and put in danger, and should enjoy more respect from the prime minister.
The PM rebuffed her remarks with blunt indifference.
This from the HuffPost’s Paul Waugh:
Wow. Boris Johnson responds to an emotional plea by Paula Sheriff to stop using perjorative and 'dangerous' language like 'Surrender Act' (citing memory of Jo Cox and referring to new death threats to MPs), by saying her remarks are mere "Humbug".
Total fury on Labour benches.
(Guardian)
The PM rebuffed her remarks with blunt indifference.
This from the HuffPost’s Paul Waugh:
Wow. Boris Johnson responds to an emotional plea by Paula Sheriff to stop using perjorative and 'dangerous' language like 'Surrender Act' (citing memory of Jo Cox and referring to new death threats to MPs), by saying her remarks are mere "Humbug".
Total fury on Labour benches.
(Guardian)
Hard to believe the bloke who has said and done indefensible shit that has seen him sacked upwards to his dream job, doesn't feel the need to stop doing and saying indefensible shit.
Exactly. Boris is a complete cnut, has always been a complete cnut and will always be a complete cnut.
British history is replete with shameless chancers like him, flitting from top job to top job & caring about nothing bar himself & his own advantage.
@Dobba As a staunch Corbyn hard left supporter, what compromises would you make to see BJ chucked out of office? ergo, how far would you go? A temporary GNU? A replacement labour leader? Or just a GE?
I thought May couldn't be outdone as the worst PM in modern times. This cnut takes the biscuit.
As we stand now, General Election. GNU and replacement leader offer me nothing as none of the people suggested would have any interest in the transformative policies I'm looking for and seeing at the conference this year. I mean, the main 'Labour' head being favoured for the temporary job tried to look tougher than the Tories on welfare the last time she got given that job.
Even fangirl Laura's putting the boot in on Bunga-bunga Boris:
Laura Kuenssberg said:
Even the assistant editor of the fecking Spectator is shocked by his conduct.
Plenty of time between now and their Christmas party where they'll all be up his arse again.
Almost certainly.
He may not, but given his circumstances, I think BJ's bossed it tonight. Despite tonnes of ammo, opposition have barely laid a glove on him.
I doubt he has lost even one voter tonight, and many will have been inspired by his bullish resoluteness. He has certainly been getting personal populism 101 tuition from Trump/Bannon, and anything he says is purely for his base. Ditto AG Cox from this morning.
Anyways, its all moot and won't matter once GE campaigning starts.
F*ckng stroll on...
You do know I hate BJ, right? But the point is, the only people outraged by him, are people who were already outraged before.
Yeah, I agree. This won't do much political damage. His political damage will be done if we do not leave the EU on the 31st October.