Brendan Rodgers | Rejoins Celtic on 3 year deal

Enigma_87 said:
Not anymore mate. I'm pretty sure most of the teams have no reason to put 120% and they know it.
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They do though. Same with Liverpool over the past 30 years. Everybody raises their game against these clubs, no matter what state they're in.

If Leicester drew Milan in the Europa League, Leicester would be going all guns blazing as they'd be against one of the biggest clubs in the world. Leicester are a better team than Milan.

I'm not defending our players, not one bit. But people don't seem to realise that it's much harder playing for United than Leicester, and most of their players, however good they are for Leicester, would fail at United on account of not being able to play under such pressure on a weekly basis.
 
Enigma_87 said:
Not anymore mate. I'm pretty sure most of the teams have no reason to put 120% and they know it.
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Exactly. Literally no one does this anymore. Our heyday is long gone we’re a poor team, with a poor manager and poor infrastructures in place. Coming to OT now is nothing like it used to be. We’re in free fall. A defeat tomorrow and things are looking horrendous.
 
Jimmy_Bond said:
Are you serious? Do you know anything about the rivalry?
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Who gives a feck? He’s not Kenny Dalglish ffs. He has zero affiliations towards Liverpool he just happened to manage them. I’m sorry but we are in s desperate situation. Ole is not going to work here.
 
Jimmy_Bond said:
They do though. Same with Liverpool over the past 30 years. Everybody raises their game against these clubs, no matter what state they're in.

If Leicester drew Milan in the Europa League, Leicester would be going all guns blazing as they'd be against one of the biggest clubs in the world. Leicester are a better team than Milan.

I'm not defending our players, not one bit. But people don't seem to realise that it's much harder playing for United than Leicester, and most of their players, however good they are for Leicester, would fail at United on account of not being able to play under such pressure on a weekly basis.
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I think the bookies had Leicester favorites or at least 50-50 games when they came to OT. They seemed too cocky about it and put a very off performance, compared to the rest of their games.

If you think in Italy teams play 120% against Milan you are dead wrong as well. They are poor side and have been in the last 10 -15 years or so. No one really cares about it that much.

Many teams give 120% against Napoli rather than Milan.
 
Jimmy_Bond said:
Well, it will also emphasise something Leicester players don't have to deal with.. Every team plays at 120% against United.

Something else players from clubs like Leicester find difficult when they sign for big clubs.
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West Ham were very average against us last week and still comfortably won 2-0. In fact in games we've dropped points in no team has put in a very good performance, we've just been crap.
 
fergosaurus said:
West Ham were very average against us last week and still comfortably won 2-0. In fact in games we've dropped points in no team has put in a very good performance, we've just been crap.
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Some people are clearly still in denial about our plight. Apart from finances and our brand, we are nowhere near the top table of European clubs anymore.
 
Jimmy_Bond said:
You can't be appointing sacked Liverpool managers when you're Manchester United.

Some people.
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The likes of Rodgers, no but if they had a brain fart and sacked Kloop for sleeping with the tea lady or something like that. I'd take Kloop in a heartbeat.
 


Here’s a good article on the job he’s doing there. I’ve mocked him a lot but he’s a good coach who I would take at United right now.
 
Rodgers has always been a visibly good manager - he has his own definite style that is consistent across all the teams he manages. He's progressive, attack-orientated and entertaining. Is he perfect? Feck no. Is he a top tier manager? Nope. But he's light years ahead of Ole Gunnar Solskjaer.
 
Credit where it's due, Rodgers is doing well at Leicester. It will be interesting to see how they weather the trials of a full season.
 
I'm sorry but just no. Viewed purely as a manager, he's half decent and well proven. Sadly, as person he often comes across as a prize bellend. Catching that occasionally on MOTD or when you play whatever team he's managing, thats fine. Having to deal with the brodge on a weekly basis, no fecking thanks.
 
Rodgers is to the PL what Emery was to La Liga, a genuinely good manager that is/was probably not made for the very top. He was pretty good with Swansea and he is now pretty good with Leicester.
 
Jimmy_Bond said:
Well, it will also emphasise something Leicester players don't have to deal with.. Every team plays at 120% against United.

Something else players from clubs like Leicester find difficult when they sign for big clubs.
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Not really mate, only Rochdale and Palace so far this season. Chelsea, Leicester, Southampton, Wolves, West Ham and Astana were all ranging from bang average to awful against us this year.

JPRouve said:
Rodgers is to the PL what Emery was to La Liga, a genuinely good manager that is/was probably not made for the very top. He was pretty good with Swansea and he is now pretty good with Leicester.
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"pretty good" is what I'd call Mourinho's second season at United, Rodgers spell at Swansea was absolutely fantastic.
 
I cant see him ever managing us although I personally rate him highly and would take him. Definitely a better than OGS, if not as likeable.
 
Schmeichel's Cartwheel said:
"pretty good" is what I'd call Mourinho's second season at United, Rodgers spell at Swansea was absolutely fantastic.
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That's totally fair, I don't think that I have used "absolutely fantastic" a lot, it's not part of my vocabulary.:lol:
 
Reiver said:
I cant see him ever managing us although I personally rate him highly and would take him. Definitely a better than OGS, if not as likeable.
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Stranger things have happened, he said this not long ago. I'd imagine he would have the same opinion if Utd came calling for him.

Brendan Rodgers accepts a move to Manchester United could be ‘too hard to turn down’ for James Maddison.

I’ve been fortunate that I’ve been at Liverpool where I understand the draw of that type of club,’ Rodgers said. ‘Liverpool and Manchester United are two of the biggest clubs by far. ‘There’s other great clubs, there’s big clubs, but those two, in terms of worldwide status, are above the other clubs. ‘There are other great clubs that are trying to catch them up but those two, in my experience, are a level above. ‘So whenever a player gets an opportunity to go to a club like that, to experience that type of pressure, that expectation – and of course there’ll be a financial side to it as well, let’s be real – that as a package in a short career is maybe something that is too hard to turn down. ‘I understand it, I get it.’
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I remmeber when people on here where saying we should hire Gary Monk on the back of an impressive run with Swansea
 
He's good, but he always was, Liverpool were just super lucky that they got a better manager to replace him with.

But he could take Leicester to the top 4, put out a come and get me plea to United, offer to work for free, and we'd still go for someone else, so it's a non starter.
 
Schmeichel's Cartwheel said:
Not really mate, only Rochdale and Palace so far this season. Chelsea, Leicester, Southampton, Wolves, West Ham and Astana were all ranging from bang average to awful against us this year.
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I'm not talking about the level of performance. If I team is crap, playing at 120% will still mean they're crap. But mentally they're far more up for it that they are when they play Leicester.

Newcastle will be more pumped up to play us next week than they will have been for Leicester. They are crap, and we should beat them anyway. But I guarantee they'll be a tougher nut for us than Leicester due to their application and mental attitude.
 
Enigma_87 said:
I think the bookies had Leicester favorites or at least 50-50 games when they came to OT. They seemed too cocky about it and put a very off performance, compared to the rest of their games.
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The odds were:
United 4/5 (1.80) 55.55% representative chance
Draw 13/5 (3.60) 27.77%
Leicester 10/3 (4.33) 23.07%

Overround means they add up to slightly over 100% of course.
 
Wednesday at Stoke said:
The contrast between how he handled being fired by Liverpool and how Moyes handled himself since getting fired by united tells all you need to know about both men.

I make enough fun of Rodgers but he's a very good manager who could have won a title if not for Gerrard.
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I think his naivety vs Palace cost them somewhat too. I know they were behind on GD but trying to score 100 goals to turn the goal difference and than letting the game slip to 3-3 is what essentially allowed us to coast home, with that result they took all the pressure off. All he had to do was shut up shop and take the 3-0 win and they'd have been level going into the last game of the season when anything could happen on level points.

As a manager though I quite like him despite his smugness. He's done well pretty much everywhere.
 
Great manager but not good in the transfer market.

Joe Allen
Balotelli
Markowicz
Lambert
Borini
Moses
Lovren
Moreno

Out of 30 signings, probably 5 were a success (only Sturridge under him).

Firmino
Coutinho
Sturridge
Milner
Gomez
 
JPRouve said:
Rodgers is to the PL what Emery was to La Liga, a genuinely good manager that is/was probably not made for the very top. He was pretty good with Swansea and he is now pretty good with Leicester.
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I can see the likeness there domestically but he's terrible in europe in comparison to Emery though.
 
His signings screwed him at Liverpool. Shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a transfer budget, but he's a good coach.
 
He wouldn’t go to united due to the Liverpool connection. But if he did how would united deal with his six second rule to win the ball back after giving it away. I don’t think that would work with the current players.
 
Andy_Cole said:
Great manager but not good in the transfer market.

Joe Allen
Balotelli
Markowicz
Lambert
Borini
Moses
Lovren
Moreno

Out of 30 signings, probably 5 were a success (only Sturridge under him).

Firmino
Coutinho
Sturridge
Milner
Gomez
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I think that’s a big weakness alright.
 
Zoo said:


Here’s a good article on the job he’s doing there. I’ve mocked him a lot but he’s a good coach who I would take at United right now.
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I have to admit I can't hide the pleasure in all this humble, and desperate, pie that is being consumed here. He was a very good coach with us too. But all he was remembered for was Brentan.
 
Andy_Cole said:
Great manager but not good in the transfer market.

Joe Allen
Balotelli
Markowicz
Lambert
Borini
Moses
Lovren
Moreno

Out of 30 signings, probably 5 were a success (only Sturridge under him).

Firmino
Coutinho
Sturridge
Milner
Gomez
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Liverpool had a DOF at that point
 
njred said:
He wouldn’t go to united due to the Liverpool connection. But if he did how would united deal with his six second rule to win the ball back after giving it away. I don’t think that would work with the current players.
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He cares feck all given that he was fired anyways.
 
I have relatively watched Leicester last season too.They seem a good side who can improve with a good coach.a Top 6 to 8 a possibility.
 
bond19821982 said:
He cares feck all given that he was fired anyways.
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Nah he would't do it. Doesn't make a difference anyway because united wouldn't take him because of LFC. How do they explain to their supporters that they need an ex Lfc coach who was fired to get them out of the mud they're in. He is doing a great job anyway. Why leave for the mess he would inherit.
 
njred said:
He wouldn’t go to united due to the Liverpool connection. But if he did how would united deal with his six second rule to win the ball back after giving it away. I don’t think that would work with the current players.
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What Six second rule? It's not as if his Liverpool team pressed and played like peak Barca team.

Liverpool averaged 55%, 54%, 54% possession in 3 full seasons under Rodgers, thats not something you see from a team that implemented 6 second rule.
 
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