You were significantly better in Mourinho's first 2 seasons than at any point post SAF
Is Pochettino's time at Spurs coming to an end?
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I had no idea he was Jewish until I read this post and doubt most football fans would either, though it's possible you are right. His rep probably just comes from him being good in the transfer market all these years though?
You are being a hypocrite, that's why I mention Ole. I know you will keep on going, it's tough to concede an argument when you have been so radical in voicing your opinion. But you can definitely make parallels and say that Pochettino would struggle under pressure and he would not change our team in 6 months either.
Because he has made Spurs a consistent top 4 team with no budget. This season is just the end of his cycle at spurs. We have enough body of evidence for his good work before.
And won nothing with the best striker in the league.
That's blind support. I struggle to see how someone who truly loves the club would say that.
He made him the best striker first of all. He made the spurs squad as good as it is. With Spurs resources only Klopp and Sir Alex would have done better. The most important things are:
1) Massive upgrade on Ole
2) Knows the premier league
3) Can make the players perform better than they are as part of a functional team with an identity
4) Can coach players and make them better
I do, but I've seen you debating with people for pages to no reasonable end. You hold on to your opinions strongly, that's fair enough but I think a lot of it in this case is hypocritical BS, just because you have a soft spot for Pochettino and heavily advocate for him to be our new manager.you don't even know what you're saying, do you
It's a team game. Look at how many league titles Luiz Ronaldo has.
Sorry but that’s bollox. Didn’t even know he is
Jewish. Doesn’t matter what faith, colour or sex he is. The tight bit comes from hardly spending any money the last few seasons (the stadium building years)
People seem to forget that unless Levy sacks pochettino, the price for breaking his contract is around 32 million. Which is no joke.
They are currently on pace to have a mutual termination anyway. If we naively expose our interest at this point Levy is going to hold out on that hoping we stump 32m for a manager he would have parted with anyway. Ole needs to do enough to keep his job long enough for Poch to be available
I bet Ed's got his eye on this situation.
If Poch is out of a job come January and our run continues Ole will be sacked without a second thought.
Tough one at Spurs, I think the CL run really masked huge problems. Eriksen and Alderweirald needed selling, they cant afford to lose those for free, the cost it will take to replace them might even need 2 windows with Spurs budget, it's massively set them back.
If Poch is out of a job come January and our run continues Ole will be sacked without a second thought.
Tough one at Spurs, I think the CL run really masked huge problems. Eriksen and Alderweirald needed selling, they cant afford to lose those for free, the cost it will take to replace them might even need 2 windows with Spurs budget, it's massively set them back.
So Im guessing we have to wait it out for Levy and Poch to come to a mutual agreement or for Poch to force his way out.
The problem is we dont have much time and we will need to act fast, too. We gotta show we are willing to move for Allegri then, even if its a bluff.
This will be a game of chicken from the looks of it. Poch is our first choice but we cant really show it cuz would be crazy to pay $32 million.
The problem is we dont have much time and we will need to act fast, too. We gotta show we are willing to move for Allegri then, even if its a bluff.
This will be a game of chicken from the looks of it. Poch is our first choice but we cant really show it cuz would be crazy to pay $32 million.
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What are Levy's options if he sacks Pochettino? Mourinho? Who the feck wants that virus at their club? Allegri might be the only choice for him and even he does not particularly inspire confidence. Unless he thinks the squad is still good enough, he won't sack Pochettino in my opinion.
Hope Ed stays the feck away... great coach and done a wonderful job at spurs, but he is in the lowest ebb of his career and has been stuck in a deep depression since the CL final, are we really the right environment for him?
Agree about the uncertainty
Something just isn't right there, the results are terrible but aside from that Poch just doesn't seem happy. Meetings with the chairman, constant speculation and he's also dropped a few inklings about all not being well behind the scenes.
I don't know who they get, there's a lack of top managers available. I can see Spurs talking a bit of a gamble like they did with Poch though, maybe Arteta or Nagelsmann from Red Bull, some young up and coming coach.
Arteta seems like too big of a risk to me, I don't think any club is going to let their manager walk to a different team in the middle of the season. They might just have to ride it out unless he thinks missing top 4 would be a catastrophic setback for their finances with the new stadium.
Il take him Rose Allegri, anyone who is going to actually coach us. That has nothing to do with your debate though.
Even you don't know what the feck your on about
Yeah maybe, I wouldn't be surprised to just see them carry on but just like ourselves this run goes all the way back to the start of the year, it will take some effort to just start playing well after months of bad results. The CL run and absolute collapse of United and Arsenal at the back end of last season masked a few problems it seems. Any team with half a bit of form take Spurs spot in the CL they we're consistently terrible....just so happened that so are United and Arsenal.
I guess we'll see in the coming weeks, international break has come at a good time for Tottenham.
I'll say it again then - Pochettino won't succeed with us because neither he nor the players will be given time to develop by the fans and media. What he achieved with Spurs was due to the environment being favourable, now that people have been expecting Tottenham to do more since last season, the team has started to crumble.Il take him Rose Allegri, anyone who is going to actually coach us. That has nothing to do with your debate though.
Even you don't know what the feck your on about
That's bullshit, because all we are asking from Ole after 11 months is to give a team that looks coached. We are mostly happy to tolerate poor results if the team actually looks drilled and we have patterns of play that make us look better.
Given Poch achieved this in his first 11 months with Spurs, of course he would be given time here. Your argument collapsed on itself the minute you compared Poch, a well respected coach with decent pedigree coaching Premier League and La Liga sides to Ole Gunnar, a manager whose only pedigree in top flight football is relegating Cardiff.
The conspiracy is gathering pace I reckon? Poch to us, and Ole as sporting director. 
I bet Pochettino won't do it with us in 11 months, especially if he takes over in mid-season after the sacking of someone like Mourinho, who has totally destroyed the dressing room.
I'm very frustrated with our current predicament, it's hard for me to back Ole but I damn well know that no manager in the world would fix our mess in just 1 year, because our problems are not just the squad, but the whole foundation of the club.
Of course they wouldn't, but you want the team coached. That's a minimum whether you're Manchester United or Norwich.
Your first statement on Poch is just presumptuous. I get that we will struggle for top 4 with the shitty structure we currently have. But it's not a tall order to ask for a manager to get into the club and actually implement a philosophy with tactical nous and pragmatism. You target me about Poch, but I'm not set on him. Yeah sure, I'd take him as a 1st pick, but I'd be very happy with Allegr or Nagalsmann or Ancelotti. I'd happily see us punt on Rose, or Eddie Howe too, anyone that actually is proven to coach a fecking side. If they won silverware in their CV then great, but at this point its clear Ole is lost.
If Poch were to leave during the season who do Spurs fans want to replace him?
He'll go to Real, win the league. Cue moaningcafe.net
Could equally be as hiring Klopp after he almost took Dortmund down (I think?)
I'm not a Spurs fan but I'd imagine most wouldn't mind Allegri.
If I'm not wrong Levy would have to pay him £25m if sacked so I don't think he'll get sacked.
I think it will only get worse before it gets better, regardless of who the manager is. I want Ole to be successful but I can also see that our current form is unacceptable and we need to fix our ideas very very soon, or it ends only one way.
Spurs finished 4th, 5th, 4th, 6th before Poch arrived, it's not like he took them from the relegation zone to winning anything. He helped them improve league position slightly and now he helps them go in the other direction. Not saying he's terrible, but his effect is clearly overstated by a lot of people.
Get him at all costs. He will be the man for us. Ole has no idea what he's doing.
He wants to come to Manutd. That's why.
Agreed. He also has no say on transfers, and has at his disposal the best striker in the league.
"He's got them playing well. That's his Job" seems to indicate that it's nothing special. Standard fare.
Poch will be wearing those jeans within the year. Oh, and managing Madrid, too.
He's finished top 3/4 whilst 4 or more big clubs spent shit loads more around him. That's something.
Stick their previous managers in the job and you won't get the same consistency.
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