preventing no deal doesn't require Corbyn, it can be done by anybody who can legitimately get the support of the house. Labour, and in particular Corbyn, lose nothing by supporting a respected backbencher from their own party, in fact they look great as they are compromising in the national interest.
Jeremy Corbyn - Not Not Labour Party(?), not a Communist (BBC)
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preventing no deal doesn't require Corbyn, it can be done by anybody who can legitimately get the support of the house. Labour, and in particular Corbyn, lose nothing by supporting a respected backbencher from their own party, in fact they look great as they are compromising in the national interest.
This has been discussed above.
Piddock has her nose up corbyns arse so I'd say she's behind him... But probably not standing
The media always likes these popularity contests.
If you ask the average voter what his or her needs are they wont be far off what Corbyn has stated.
That is the key.
Its about principles and fighting for them. Let the other guy lie.
@esmufc07
I know this won't make any difference to your views because something something Corbyn isn't a very nice man but well its worth reading.
I know this won't make any difference to your views because something something Corbyn isn't a very nice man but well its worth reading.
Not sure I'd exactly describe that as a comprehensive report exactly, but assuming its true it does highlight how reselection can be an own goal for Labour, from a publicity perspective.
Besides, while it may not quite be as dramatic as a left wing insurgency, it still puts the CLP in a bad light - that report suggests that people wanted her out because others wanted her job, which is a poor reason. I have no idea if Hodge in particular is a popular local MP, but generally speaking, if an MP is generally regarded as doing a good job by the constituency, the CLP really shouldn't be trying to remove that person. To do so is to assert that the CLP is more important than the electorate, which I can't agree with.
Granted, making a judgment about whether an MP is doing a good job or not is very difficult, and no MP is universally popular. But all the more reason to exercise caution and to use trigger ballots only in edge cases, such as where the individual risks Labour losing a seat entirely. From that brief note, this doesn't seem to meet that criteria and looks to be about internal machinations only.
https://www.politicshome.com/news/u...sh-labour-mp-louise-ellman-face-move-oust-her
Motion of confidence against a Jewish MP to be debated on the evening of the most important Jewish holiday, meaning she can't even attend
Well done Labour.
Motion of confidence against a Jewish MP to be debated on the evening of the most important Jewish holiday, meaning she can't even attend
Well done Labour.
They scheduled the antesemitism debates at conference on Saturday meaning people couldn't attend as well.
I think the plan is if we just keep doing shit like this the ehrc can never finish their investigations
This sort of comment would never have been possible before Corbyn normalised antisemitism.
You know that has nothing to do with the actual party right? It's a local motion
What an idiotic post. Have a word with yourself. The idea that Corbyn is to blame for right-wing anti-Semitic conspiracies is shameful and it completely belittles the problem of anti-Semitism that you're pretending to be so concerned about. The idea that Corbyn has 'normalised antisemitism' also exposes the fact that you clearly have no understanding of the history of anti-Semitism on the continent and more specifically in the UK itself.
Was that comment not facetious?
I *think* that was his point.
Yeah thanks for pointing that out, having re-read it, I've realised that I have made a fool of myself. My apologies @Untied.
ooooooh jeremy corbyn.
It really is impressive to be trailing somebody with all the baggage and issues of Boris - and amongst all age groups - and in all regions - fair play to corbyn he said he wanted to unite the country and he seems to be doing exactly that
In terms of how they're handling Brexit, net satisfaction rating: Johnson (-9), Farage (-23), Swinson (-33), Corbyn (-57).
In terms of whether the candidate "tells the truth in general": Johnson 22%, Corbyn 19%
In terms of whether the candidate "tells the truth about Brexit": Johnson 23%, Corbyn 15%
65% of Leave voters are satisfied with Johnson's approach, 66% of remain voters are dissatisfied with Corbyn's approach.
https://www.ipsos.com/ipsos-mori/en...-approach-brexit-corbyns-majority-see-no-deal
I certainly hope polling is as meaningless as Corbyn supporters often seem to claim, because that all looks pretty grim in the context of an approaching general election against a government who should by now have already proven themselves beyond doubt to be both inept and dishonest.
shambolic
Corbyn is utterly unelectable.
He did not enter an ideal situation but let's be honest...it's been a shitshow.
Well he is - he is not trusted - has far too much baggage and his message has been muddled.
Oh I agree with you. He's absolutely fecking useless and should have resigned a long time ago.
I thought the consensus here was Corbyn or Swinson have a chance of taking power from the Tories. Surley the fact that everyone has changed their minds and now want to cancel Brexit would me mean Swinson and Corbyn should be out in front?
They'll have to get Sadiq in earlier than they thought. Switch on the bat signal and kick the joker out of government.
The thing I really don't get on that poll is how Boris is -9 for brexit handling and Swinson is -33. You'd think they'd be roughly the same wouldn't you?
Erm they would have to get him elected as an mp first unless I'm mistaken... But I think the leader has to be in the commons
His personal polling has never been good nothing new here is there? He performs better in a campaign and his policies more so.
How long would that take? 5 days? A week? I'm joking off course but the only Labour candidate that is shining in some sort of charge right now and isn't accused of racism is Sadiq. Maybe they're saving him for later.
Well given he is running for a second term as mayor I'd guess about five years for him to serve that term then stand in a subsequent by election or wait till the next general election
Oh look, another meaningless and almost certainly inaccurate poll. One more to put on the pile. I'm still waiting for the unprecedented Tory majority that was apparently inexorable at the last election...
The idea that more people aged 18-24 would support Johnson as a PM over Corbyn is beyond ludicrous. If we had an election where only people in that age group could vote, there is not a single rational minded person in the country who could sincerely believe the result would be anything other than an overwhelming Labour victory. So are we really to believe that the majority of young Labour voters support the party in spite of Corbyn/believe Johnson to nevertheless be a better PM? It's such an untenable position to hold that I question what validity that YouGov poll holds. None at all is my conclusion.
During the campaign people changed their minds, this was reflected in the polling too, with the Tory lead narrowing significantly during the last 3/4 weeks of the campaign until the actual day when they won the national vote by 2.5%, slightly less than the polling averages would have predicted but well within the error margin and exactly what you'd expect in a tightening race. The polls didn't get it wrong, they tracked a tightening race pretty well, albeit a few days behind due to the delay between the poll being conducted and the results released. Overall they were pretty good on average.
Calling something ludicrous without evidence because it doesn't confirm what you already believe is absurd. Find some evidence to the contrary. BTW it isn't ludicrous at all given the way the young feel about Brexit and Corbyn's current ambivalence toward and historical hostility to the EU. It wouldn't surprise me if someone like Swinson or Starmer was far more popular with 18-24 year olds, with Johnson being popular with the much smaller number of young leavers.
Better in a campaign has a sample size of 1. Whether he can repeat that trick and convince people who backed him last time but now appear to not like or trust him to swing back a second time is still very much up for debate.
His polling is beyond awful. Considering we’ve had 9 years of Tory bad government and the whole Brexit debacle, and a current PM currently on corruption investigation, Corbyn doing that badly is jaw dropping. It’s the worst polling I’ve ever seen from a major party leader.
Revoke was a major misstep. The Lib Dems had done an amazing job of becoming the party for all Remainers, and then she went and poured ice cold water on the enthusiasm of all the Remainers who believed a second referendum was the only logical solution to the countries divide.