MikeUpNorth
Wobbles like a massive pair of tits
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It's got a chance, if the DUP are onboard.It won’t pass though will it?
It's got a chance, if the DUP are onboard.It won’t pass though will it?
How much influence do the UDA and UVF still have? Although they aren't active as paramilitaries do they still wield influence over the community in terms of voting at elections?
Does this still happen on both sides of the community?They are very much still active within working class loyalist communities and hold huge influence over voting come election time in those communities. After the DUP lost East belfast to Alliance a few years ago the paramilitaries were mobilised to stoke up trouble during the flag protests and pin the blame on Alliance which in no small part contributed to the DUP regaining that seat at the next election.
Corbyn will take it.The Tories would prefer an election to a second referendum. If that’s on the table, I think they’ll lose the vote, and extend article 50 to fight Boris’ ‘people vs. parliament’ election.
What is the difference between this deal and May’s?
Sky saying DUP are not on board.
It won’t pass though will it?
Boris going to roll the dice without them then?
May had a deal too, but it didn't get though Parliament.
Boris absolves himself of blame because he has got a deal. The EU has done everything they can to get a deal. The UK Parliament doesn't want the deal.
Because DUP support would unlock support from (most of the) ERG, and then there's probably enough leave voting Labour MPs to offset any Tory/ex-Tory hold outs.Why the feck are people still talking about the DUP as if thats all they need to get a majority.
Not sure but noises off say it is a looser arrangement with the EU.What is the difference between this deal and May’s?
Needs to get through parliament first, which it won't, and then we'll apply for an extension on the 19th. And we'll go through this all over again.
Does this still happen on both sides of the community?
Parliament is sitting on Saturday... so something should happen then.When will the parliament vote on it?
Which means many ERG members will not back BJ’s deal.Sky saying DUP are not on board.
Yep, and then they go out with no deal. Which I suspect has been his plan and preferred option all along. This is all just for show.
Not really. It’s the fault of May and the Tory party in general for not having a workable majority and recently becoming a minority Government.Fully agreed. The entire country is being held to ransom over a footnote. Most in Britain forget NI is there at all, let alone an obscure political party that doesn't even hold a majority in it's own land.
It's ridiculous that they are being allowed to derail the whole thing.
Orban?Yes, I am beginning to suspect it is.
Boris gave the EU just enough encouragement to bite and for them to keep channels open by talking to them about possible concessions on NI, even getting them to be seen to open up the WDA to 'further negotiation. Boris is still taking the talks right up to and beyond the EU leaders summit, with talk of an 'agreement in principle', but with 'more hard yards to follow' etc. however knowing all the time that the DUP would be likely to scupper things at the last minute.
The question now is, how is he going to get around the Benn Act, to allow the clock to finally run down?
how does he get around the Benn act?Yep, and then they go out with no deal. Which I suspect has been his plan and preferred option all along. This is all just for show.
What are the chances of the EU now turning down any extension to try to force parliament to pass the deal under the threat of no-deal?
It would make the Benn Act irrelevant if there is no extension on offer.
NI remains aligned to good
how does he get around the Benn act?
So, does it mean you're leaving now or there's a chance that it will be blocked by the Parliament or postponed?