While a part of me is shocked another part of me is not surprised. Fans saying that they don't care where the money comes from as long as the club is successful. The Manchester City fans have already justified that being owned by a regime that endorses the persecution and execution of minorities is ok because Pep endorses beautiful football. I love football but do not want to it at any cost. The FA need to grow a set and say no to owners that do not abide by basic human rights.
Saudi Takeover - Claim deal done
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This thread is a fecking disaster
I mean, I'm conflicted. I couldn't care any less than I do about money being pumped into the club because at the end of it I'll just see it as blood money. We'll be an asset of one of the most backwards, oppressive regimes out there right now. But then I think of Sir Bobby, Sir Alex et al. My support of the club is built on these people.
Would stop caring about united and football in general if they behaved as we know they probably would as our owners. If they were distant owners in name only maybe I could ignore it but not the sportswashing shit they're gonna try.
when I read that the Tories were harmless I thought woah I'll never see anything more wrong on the Caf
but then he went and said Climate Change was harmless
but then he went and said Climate Change was harmless
Hope its happen though. You all know that we can generate our own money. Just let the Saudis buy us from the leeches and clear our debt.
We won't need money pumped into the club. All we need is the current situation of money being pumped out to end. We're quite capable of generating our own wealth as long as it's not being leeched out.
I find it hard to stop caring about a club and one of my few joys in life, all because of some cnuts happened to buy the club. What I will do is be a little more vocal about their human rights abuses. I feel like I'm already calling that kind of stuff out whether it's the US, China, or anywhere that has injustice. What else can I do? Give up football entirely?
I just had a spaghetti headache trying to work out what that meant
Probably because I managed to work a double negative in there (or something like that). Now corrected
Can we retitle this the Anti-Saudi Righteous Indignation thread? That seems to be the key theme.
For a few hundred million more you support the house of saud.
Just so that your football club can spend 300m instead of 150m every year.
But no. It isnt about money guys.
At least own it up. You want them so you can win the trophies and have a galactico squad every year. Oh... we just want to spend our own money.... pfftt... as if
Just so that your football club can spend 300m instead of 150m every year.
But no. It isnt about money guys.
At least own it up. You want them so you can win the trophies and have a galactico squad every year. Oh... we just want to spend our own money.... pfftt... as if
I am conflicted too. I don't know what to think clearly right now. I need time to reflect on this
Ah ok. That's bad then
No problem with me, I appreciate your willingess to show respect
Under a Saudi regime, there would be a price to pay for sure.
I meant that the punishment for being born in Saudi Arabia to Muslim parents and not believing in Islam is death.
Here's a quote from the report on Saudi Arabia by the US Department of State:
https://2009-2017.state.gov/j/drl/rls/irf/2013/nea/222311.htm
Obviously there are foreign workers and religious minorities whose children are free to choose to believe whatever they want regarding religion, but the vast majority of the country is kept in tow by the prospect of the death penalty for renouncing their faith, if they ever had any faith in the first place.
I don't think the fact that these laws only apply to the country's 99% Muslim citizens and not everybody really matters in the grand scheme of things.
Even if this happens, I think I'm still allowed to love the club for all its glorious history, culture and all the good it stands for while still being absolutely disgusted by its Saudi owners.
After all the club does not choose its ownership.
After all the club does not choose its ownership.
Don't want these Saudis anywhere near the club but anyhow people need to stop making conspiracies about this WWE Plane delayed thing. It was a mechanical failure and the chartered plane company has apologised for it. That Plane has now left their country. It wasn't a hostage situation.
It is becoming increasingly obvious that some fans actually like the transfer window aspect more than the actual football.
We would be going from a Wall Street cartel to a Wahhabi cartel. From the guarantors to the producers of the petrodollar. Hard to find room for righteous indignation there.
Read that in the voice of Don LaFontaine
Exactly.
Also, west has backed Saudi regime for decades now. It is the most allied/friendly Muslim state out there. Its really frustrating that this is done and in a sick and twisted way I'm happy they buy our clubs. Maybe that will teach people a lesson because people care about football more than Saudi atrocities in 3rd world countries .
I'm guessing you publicly denounce your king then?
I have no king. The wife is in charge mostly
Tough question. Which would you rather have?I have no king. The wife is in charge mostly
I support Manchester United. I don’t support owners.
The way I see it is that nothing has officially happened but just the parties could have agreed on an overall fee or MBS could have given the go ahead. There is a lot legal and administrative stuff that both parties have to fulfill for a deal of this magnitude to go through so it will take a few months to conclude. I fully expect the club to issue an official denial soon but that doesn't mean its not happening but just that it hasn't happened as claimed by that SA guy.Well that’s it pretty much confirmed that it’s happening now
Anyways on a more serious note, no one reputable that has links to the club like Stone & Peach have came out and either refuted these claims or even mentioned that’s it’s a possibility it could happen.
It’s probably something to keep an eye on.
Will you change the channel or stop clapping when the beaming Saudis hold up the trophy for the photos? We'll probably get back to the top, but every silverware we win onwards will be credited to them.
Would be a sad day if this takeover really happens. I've struggled with the Glazer ownership but this, would be a whole different level.
What a thread, take a bow.
I think it will but to an extent because football success, at the end of the day, relies on much more than having better players. The coaching has to be top notch, the scouting too and the executives have to have the vision to build towards. One thing that is certain is that when United is no longer a club run for profit players like Phil Jones wouldnt be on the brink of a testimonial and Fred would be one long term injury away from being a starter cause managers wouldn't be forced to keep underperforming players because the owners think it costs to more to replace than keep.
gotta love a shit conspiracy theoryHow old are you?
In terms of governments, the USA government is worse.
Life has learned me that sometimes bad people can do good things and good people can do bad things. Whoever who claims to be behind our future success don’t change my view of politics and religion. If the Saudis take this step and buy United then the English and the western world media will cover their regime more closely. In my books that’s a good thing and maybe it will change them to become more modern and tolerant. Transparency often speed up the process.
To answer your question. I will not change the channel and I will not clap my hand. At that moment I probably visit the Redcafe and write some shit about nothing and everything.
A lot of you on here are against this takeover. I don't blame you for that. It's a moral thing sure, United earn their money, and spend it. But The glaziers are bleeding this club dry and aren't up to the standards we should be. If Saudi's do buy this club someday, it would definitely change how we look to the world. However the only truly important thing is Manchester United. I don't think any of us would complain if United start winning big trophies again if they do buy the club.
That's debatable. The US is better domestically, and both sponsor terrorism elsewhere. Saudis are involved in genocide in Yemen, which I'm not sure the US has done in recent times in the same way Saudi Arabia is doing it there. They're complicit as of right now. In the past the US did with natives, and had slavery. Then again, the regime change wars the US did in Latin America and middle east could be considered worse.
When you lay everything out, its hard to say which is worse because of too many disgusting things to count.
Really? Terrorism, murder, discrimination, racism, slavery etc Oh fk it...thats ok if we get Neymar
That not what I'm saying. I'm keeping the subject on football. Obviously if they commit horrible things, they shouldn't be anywhere near this club.
Is there a guarantee that the Saudis won't be looking to do as the Glazers ? I know they love and everything but who knows
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