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Yeah but apart from Di Maria, Pogba, Veron, Cruyff, sanitation, irrigation, Pele and Maradona, when was the last time United owners shelled out for an actual, in their absolute prime, world star?
Prime Minister Pigeon said:
SteveJ can guide you with that. He's like Yoda but without the green goblin stuff, although I have heard from reliable sources that he wanders around swamps in a dressing gown wielding his saber.
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You've changed since you went into politics.
 
Adnan said:
This was the chap that was the first to tweet regarding a potential takeover. He basically says that he was invited to the Abo Saq residence and tried to get info regards a takeover but people at the residence wouldn't be drawn on a potential takeover and were keeping the info confidential. He's pictured in the tweet below at the residence.



That was then followed up by Naifco who was also in attendance and was asking United fans why they wanted #Saudisin

Then you had the LinkedIn chap who is basically the chief PR guy for the Royal Family saying United had been bought by a Saudi Investor. I would assume he meant a verbal agreement of some sort might have been reached.
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Aaah oh ok. Thanks for clarifying. Never seen a journalist wanting a purchase of a team so much before. Hahaha.
 
red thru&thru said:
A turban? Maybe you actually didn't learn anything today! :lol::lol::lol:
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:lol: imagine being so ignorant that you would call it a turban :lol:

.....what is it called anyway? :nervous:
 
Adnan said:
This chap was also at the house where Richard Arnold was shown some Saudi hospitality.

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On the face of it this seems very credible. The tweeter/chap is an avid Utd fan and respected sports business consultant from SA. Just looked up his name and seen June 2019 story describing him having strong anti-Glazer sentiment.
 
SteveJ said:
Yeah but apart from Di Maria, Pogba, Veron, Cruyff, sanitation, irrigation, Pele and Maradona, when was the last time United owners shelled out for an actual, in their absolute prime, world star?

You've changed since you went into politics.
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Hey I won that vote FAIR AND SQUARE and none of your fake news about me forging voting cards and your so called "video evidence" of me doing it will make me say otherwise. That person just happened to look, sound and smell like me and for some reason was holding my wallet, driver's license and a sign that said "I'm really Mr Pigeon and I love forging voter cards". And, yeah, maybe I said something along the lines of "no, really, I did forge voter cards" to you in the televised interview but I was joking, and that interview never happened. You're a fecking liar. That video of cats peeing on me is also fake. Fake mews.
 
Mr Pigeon said:
Hey I won that vote FAIR AND SQUARE and none of your fake news about me forging voting cards and your so called "video evidence" of me doing it will make me say otherwise. That person just happened to look, sound and smell like me and for some reason was holding my wallet, driver's license and a sign that said "I'm really Mr Pigeon and I love forging voter cards". And, yeah, maybe I said something along the lines of "no, really, I did forge voter cards" to you in the televised interview but I was joking, and that interview never happened. You're a fecking liar. That video of cats peeing on my in also fake. Fake mews.
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:lol: You're free to go, guv.
 
red thru&thru said:
Kufiya.
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I knew that I was just testing you :nervous:

Thanks. We did an inclusivity training week at work that included learning all of the different types of head coverings and suffice to say I forgot almost all of them.
 
Whiteside '85 said:
On the face of it this seems very credible. The tweeter/chap is an avid Utd fan and respected sports business consultant from SA. Just looked up his name and seen June 2019 story describing him having strong anti-Glazer sentiment.
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Yea, this guy really seems to be pushing the Glazer out and Saudi In.
 


On the other hand he could be one of Sheikh Mansour's guys on a well massive, months in the planning, wind up. In which case respect is due.
 
Whiteside '85 said:


On the other hand he could be one of Sheikh Mansour's guys on a well massive, months in the planning, wind up. In which case respect is due.
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It’s the start of the PR push. Get the fans on board by framing themselves as the saviours of the club from the Glazer family. They back the green and gold campaign and want to give United fans the team they deserve. Perfect PR strategy that fans are going to lap up no doubt when they put a few hundred million into the side. I’m their first transfer window.

Absolutely soulless.
 
Pexbo said:
It’s the start of the PR push. Get the fans on board by framing themselves as the saviours of the club from the Glazer family. They back the green and gold campaign and want to give United fans the team they deserve. Perfect PR strategy that fans are going to lap up no doubt when they put a few hundred million into the side. I’m their first transfer window.

Absolutely soulless.
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Yep, you could be on to something there. Amazing how this guy would have had the audacity to talk to RA, when campaigning so much to get him out?

Unless RA is advising these guys and is promised a prominent role in the club, if they are successful in the purchase of United.
 
Pexbo said:
It’s the start of the PR push. Get the fans on board by framing themselves as the saviours of the club from the Glazer family. They back the green and gold campaign and want to give United fans the team they deserve. Perfect PR strategy that fans are going to lap up no doubt when they put a few hundred million into the side. I’m their first transfer window.

Absolutely soulless.
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Yeah eilte football is at a crossroads with the utterly ridiculous amounts of money being splashed about in recent years. To be fair it's well past that crossroads isn't it?

I don't love the idea of being owned by these people. What is the alternative? If there is a better one take that option.

I'm not sure I buy into the idea that they are using football ownership as a means of gaining credibility. These people are not so foolish as to believe that's a real strategy? Might be they enjoy displays of obscene wealth? Look we can afford Man Utd.

Feck them I love Man Utd so much I'll be one of the many fans that will continue to travel, spend my hard earned on buses n boats across the Irish sea regularly. The next stop Brighton.

I'd be a liar if I said SA ownership will stop me making that journey or paying membership.

Maybe that is a poor reflection on me, in my defence Utd through n through since '85.
 
red thru&thru said:
Yep, you could be on to something there. Amazing how this guy would have had the audacity to talk to RA, when campaigning so much to get him out?

Unless RA is advising these guys and is promised a prominent role in the club, if they are successful in the purchase of United.
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Why would they push Arnold out? He’s been behind some of our best and biggest commercial deals over the last decade. He’s an employee of the club and one of the best we have, if not the best at his job, they’d do well to keep him on post any takeover.
 
Pexbo said:
It’s the start of the PR push. Get the fans on board by framing themselves as the saviours of the club from the Glazer family. They back the green and gold campaign and want to give United fans the team they deserve. Perfect PR strategy that fans are going to lap up no doubt when they put a few hundred million into the side. I’m their first transfer window.

Absolutely soulless.
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We’ve spent hundreds of millions, are the fans satisfied? What makes you so sure that the Saudi millions will somehow turn this train wreck of a club into a success? Our recruitment structure is appalling, no amount of their money will fix that.
Anyway Arnold is there alongside executives of hundreds of top companies as Riyad is hosting a conference.

Also @Rood i highly doubt it’s a sponsorship in the works either, STC has been a sponsor for over a decade, if they were serious, they’d have tried to get the sleeve sponsorship at least but they haven’t. I highly doubt they’re about to become our shirt sponsor.
 
Devil_forever said:
We’ve spent hundreds of millions, are the fans satisfied? What makes you so sure that the Saudi millions will somehow turn this train wreck of a club into a success? Our recruitment structure is appalling, no amount of their money will fix that.
Anyway Arnold is there alongside executives of hundreds of top companies as Riyad is hosting a conference.

Also @Rood i highly doubt it’s a sponsorship in the works either, STC has been a sponsor for over a decade, if they were serious, they’d have tried to get the sleeve sponsorship at least but they haven’t. I highly doubt they’re about to become our shirt sponsor.
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It’s not the pouring in of money, it’s the fact they might actually run the club properly. I very much doubt they’d buy the club with the intention of aiming for top 4, and achieving top 6.
If they buy the club, it’ll be to win. The problem with the club for the last 6 years hasn’t been lack of funds, it’s that the board has not had the desire to become champions, they’ve been happy with on field mediocrity.
 
Agree with people who say there is no smoke without fire when it comes to this story, however still don't see any real truth in it as surely the UK journalists would be all over something this big and no one is saying a word at all
 
Ah yes the moral high ground.

Is it that you draw the line at beheadings and you don’t think heinous white collar crimes are such a big deal, or is it that you believe every single person to come through this club to this point was a saint?

I’m not even disputing anything being said about these blokes, but I won’t lie to myself and say I won’t support the club because there are bad people being employed by or owning it. I’ve supported it since 1990, and that would make me a giant hypocrite. If you say you will not support a club because people who have done bad things are employed by or running it, you should have fecked off a long time ago.

I can’t wait to hear from both my fellow Yanks and Brits and how enraged they are about dead innocent Arabs. I’ll even hire someone to play the violin in the background.
 
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Can't we just get new owners that aren't these guys?! Good ones with some degree of ethical integrity and a genuine interest in reviving our fortunes.
 
Pexbo said:
It’s the start of the PR push. Get the fans on board by framing themselves as the saviours of the club from the Glazer family. They back the green and gold campaign and want to give United fans the team they deserve. Perfect PR strategy that fans are going to lap up no doubt when they put a few hundred million into the side. I’m their first transfer window.

Absolutely soulless.
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It's not the Saudi oil money's fault it's being used to fund regional terrorism and prop up a regime that belongs in the Middle Ages. Liberating some of the Saudi oil money so that it can be used to buy Mbappe and Veratti for Manchester United is a good thing. It's kind of sad that so many short-sighted, holier-than-though Boy Scouts can't see that.
 
Irwin99 said:
Can't we just get new owners that aren't these guys?! Good ones with some degree of ethical integrity and a genuine interest in reviving our fortunes.
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Are there any ethical multi billionaires? I mean being a billionaire isn’t exactly ethical to start with is it...
Even if the fans all chipped in and bought the club, we’d still have the odd barstool amongst them.
 
To be honest it seems as if these arabs are just hyping the whole situation up to try and get the ball rolling so Man Utd is sold to them. Nothing more.
 
MackRobinson said:
You are advocating for United getting pushed back to the top of the tree because of their sugar daddy owners. That has nothing to do with history or United generating their own money (which would negate the reason for Suadi ownership if that actually mattered)

FYI Chelsea finished 4th and qualified for the CL before they were bought by Abramovich.


Wages are always factor since, together with transfer fees, it factors into the budget for playing staff. Regardless you completely making this up since you or I don't know what the actual budget would be without the Glazers. Furthermore, why would this even matter if you plan on using Suadi funds? You talk about United making it's own money yet you want a cash injection from the Saudis. Makes very little sense.


What is the rule exactly? Do you need to be sponsored by a sugar daddy to win? If that's the case why on earth is anyone watching football? Tottenham under Poch (minus the last 6 months) and Leicester come to mind seem to have done well without groveling at the feet of the Saudis, begging for handouts.
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I’ll keep it simple for you... Since 2005 the Glazers have taken out over £1 BILLION from Manchester United.

In that same time Man City’s owners have pumped almost the same amount INTO their club.

Take the above equation and factor in our already large spending during that time and you should be able to figure out our POTENTIAL spending power.

Therefore an owner that does not seek a monetary return from owning Manchester United would unlock our true spending power. Spending power that we EARNED prior to any sugar daddy owner. Calling United a plastic club is laughable.

United generate revenues of around £650 million per year. Do you want to give this to a greedy owner or spend it on the club that earned it.

It’s quite simple really.
 
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MackRobinson said:
I understand that but that's not the same as Saudi owners. Real and Barca are essentially privatized national teams as far as I'm concerned.
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That's alright. I understand the concerns some have over the Saudis taking over. I was just pointing out that Real have been sponsored by a state for a lot longer than any of the current plastics.
 
RUCK4444 said:
I’ll keep it simple for you... Since 2005 the Glazers have taken out over £1 BILLION from Manchester United.

In that same time Man City’s owners have pumped almost the same amount INTO their club.

Take the above equation and factor in our already large spending during that time and you should be able to figure out our POTENTIAL spending power.

Therefore an owner that does not seek a monetary return from owning Manchester United would unlock our true spending power. Spending power that we EARNED prior to any sugar daddy owner. Calling United a plastic club is laughable.

United generate revenues of around £650 million per year. Do you want to give this to a greedy owner or spend it on the club that earned it.

It’s quite simple really.
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Not this shit again. Get your facts right when you spout bullshits like this.

1st. Explain where you get that 1 billion mark
2nd. Just because you earn 650m doesnt meant you can spend 650m every year. Factor running cost there and you'll be left with 150m or thereabouts on a good year. Stop making it as if we can spend 300m every year. We cant.
 
Sky1981 said:
Not this shit again. Get your facts right when you spout bullshits like this.
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OK it’s bullshit then, my figures might not be feckin’ exact but the basis of the point is relevant.

Surely what has been taken out of United by the Glazers would or could have been spent under different owners.
 
RUCK4444 said:
OK it’s bullshit then, my figures might not be feckin’ exact but the basis of the point is relevant.

Surely what has been taken out of United by the Glazers would or could have been spent under different owners.
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Mufc is a ny stock exchange listed company. Their books is open for everyone to see. It's not that hard.

Your figure is way out of mark it's withchunting

Edit. Nope. I dont think so. Under any other owner there will be dividents to be taken.
 
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