I just want a young Fergie back 
Saudi Takeover - Claim deal done
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Agreed. Everything has to change for us to even have a chance to be on the right track ASAP.
At the moment, it’s all down to Ole - Woodie takes a step back so he can pass the blame. So a manager who was at Molde and sacked by Cardiff is the head of our club vision on and off the pitch - no wonder he is failing.
A poll would be good with maybe three categories
Yes, Saudi in - bring it on
No, Saudi stay away but will still support
No, Saudi stay away will no longer support
Yes, Saudi in - bring it on
No, Saudi stay away but will still support
No, Saudi stay away will no longer support
I don't speak Arabic, but I know it is "Welcome to Manchester”
This guy polls.
I think this is a good little summary.
15 Yemen road, Yemen.
I just want a young Fergie back
Under the current ownership and Woodward Fergie would never have been allowed to offload Beckham with all the shirt sales etc.even though it was the right time for both parties.
He liked to refresh teams and ship players out that some supporters thought was the wrong desision(he was right most of the time) and the board let him get on with it.
Untill the current lot are gone the club will slowly bleed to death.
2 weeks to think about the bid, 2 weeks to prepare the bid, 2 weeks to submit the bid, 2 weeks to get rejected. Repeat until it takes another 2 weeks to get the bid rejected.
They allowed LVG to ship out Di Maria and Ole to ship out Lukaku and Sanchez. Granted they don't sell as much shirts as Beckham, but they were big club assets.
From the supporters? Think it mythical and excessively complimentary to the Saudis that they would pay the slightest heed to how the supporters react. They think us fanatical plebs who could be bought off with a new community centre in Salford. If you mean the reaction of the Premier League regulatory authorities or whatever they would surely fish around for the facts on this way before the drizzle of rumor tweets could get under way. Buying Utd would be an insanely smart move by the Saudi regime both domestically and internationally and I fear this horrible thing has the stink of inevitability.
Yes but not because they need our permission but for info on how to spin it and how they can milk it from a PR perspective. Agree with everything else, the only thing that stops this is if the Glazers get greedy and demand an outrageous amount like £10bn but then I get the feeling they too need this takeover to happen because the way things are going this is their last chance to sell from a position of strength.
No comparison at all.
The club was becoming more about Beckham than Manchester United and he was shipped out for peanuts(I think Madrid made the 25million outlay back in the first few months).
Remember the boot incident after we lost to Arsenal at home and he drove to carrington the day after with his hair held back with a band to make sure the press got the pictures of the cut on his head.
He was shipped out to move the team forward and was replaced with a good youth prospect(Ronaldo) which was a gamble at the time and I remember loads of fans being up in arms about Beckham leaving.
Di Maria was not shipped out like Beckham as he never wanted to be here in the first place.
everyone knew he was gone as soon as PSG could buy him(why the club signed him in the first place is beyond me as he was dragged out of Madrid kicking and screaming and his first press conference said everything about him and Woodward).
Lukaku wanted to leave and has reduced the wage bill along with the 70million transfer fee so I can't see the glazers being up in arms about that plus he hasn't been replaced.
And the less said about Sanchez the better.(plus it's reduced the wage bill on top).
Will be a very interesting couple of days.
But can the mods put a poll in this thread?
But can the mods put a poll in this thread?
Why would anyone spend 3-4billions without expecting to get a nice financial return? In what universe that is going to happen?
In a universe where the club is going to be used as a PR machine. Which essentially leaves the kingdom of Saudi Arabia as the only potential 'selfless' buyer.
And even then, IMO it would be naive to think the Saudis wouldn't want a financial return at some point. £3-4bn is no joke.
Tbh, to them that amount of money is really no problem. But, I agree they will at some point get something back.
He should’ve been in charge of the brexit referendum
Of course. If we believe that the stock value is more or less saturated, then they might want some financial return in form of dividends at some later stage.
People who believe that some decent billionaire would spend 3-4 billion, then pay out the debt from his pocket, and not expect any financial return are not living in the real world.
The financial return the Saudis want is a better public opinion in western countries, making it easier for them to trade, create beneficial financial relations etc.
I thought a major drive for their interest was less monetary and more for image reasons, so they can spread a view of Saudi that makes them look more positive.
Man Utd would on paper be a good brand for them to go for.
It;s feck all and they would get it back. This would not be a financially driven investment.
It is close to half percent of their investments funds. Not entirely irrelevant especially considering that they have been diversifying their investments to prepare for the oil-less world.
Invest 4 billion in United for entirely selfless reasons is something that no one will do. If anyone in their right mind puts that money it will be either to use us as a propaganda tool, cause they believe it is a good investment (either in form or shares value increasing, or dividends, two things that often are related), or most likely a combination of those two reasons.
We're the perfect sporting brand for them to go for.
Surprisingly, they really don't have unlimited liquidity. Only recently they had rounded up various princes for weeks, to recover billions from their personal wealth and add it to the state treasury.
What they do have is an extremely valuable asset (oil reserves). Even then £3-4bn is a massive spend for even this lot.
Exactly.
Yes I agree and that’s why I want this to happen. That’s the point I’m making.
At the end of the day the Uber moral brigade can pretend not to support us anymore and that will affect nothing.
As I and others have said, the more ties they have to western culture and media spotlight the less major atrocities are likely to occur.
Yes, now I know they won’t stop altogether, but I find it very hard to believe that a state purchasing a club brand to ‘Sportswash their reputation’ would then proceed to commit horrendous atrocities in the public eye.
The latter would negate any benefit of the former.
In my opinion it’s a must for United and at the same time may marginally improve their behaviour and will go some way to them conforming to western culture.
After the takeover Young, Lingard and Matic get invited to a gala night at the Saudi consulate.
I doubt that would be their only motive. Besides, it would be far cheaper to buy a club like Spurs for example.
They don't want cheap, they want prestige and the best of the best. We're one of the biggest teams in the world, thats what they want.
They also don't have much problems trading now. They have large shares in Uber and other big tech companies, and via SoftBank group have investments everywhere.
People seem to not care too much about human right record and financing of terrorism via their fascist ideology when it comes to taking their money.
It will occlude their atrocities in the public eye. You think they'll stop to consider the goodwill of the Manchester United brand before making geostrategic political decisions in Yemen? Your naivety and cynicism is the first symptom of the successful effect of "sportswashing". They believe that owning us will effect our perception of and attitude toward them. We are more likely to be changed than they are by the relationship.
This is very bad taste.
Not comparable. Their main motive for owning United is sportswashing. Easier to do this with a club with the highest numbers of fans in the world (if one takes the numbers presented by the club seriously, which are clearly inflated numbers or the condition for being a MUFC fan is basically to know the name of the stadium) than a club the size of Tottenham (no offense).
Hope you get banned.
Yes that's what I'm saying. Their diversified investments have multiple motives, one of them being financial gain and it would be naive to think a potential purchase of United, especially at £4bn, would be any different. By the way do you know if they've spent this amount of money on any offshore asset/investment?
This story just refuses to go away.
Well at least we can look forward to sign some star players next summer. Imagine signing Sancho or Mbappe, we could just pay over the odds.
This is so evil and funny at the same time. On a serious note, i hope players like these never start a game for United again.
What a great fanbase we have. It's amazing Utd fans have the nerve to mock Arsenal fans when you lot are like this.
They've spent 3.5 billion purchasing 5% of Uber, and they had a deal with Softbank to invest there 45 billion within the next 10 years, but I have no idea how much they've invested there so far.
United would actually be one of their biggest investments outside of their kingdom.
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