Williamson leaving was a good thing and Austin literally started an anticorbyn campaign group called mainstream a few months ago (they did that negative poll of labour supporters that hit the news in September and also had an anti-corbyn banner outside the Labour party conference) so I don't know why it's suddenly news that he's anti-corbyn.
Jeremy Corbyn - Not Not Labour Party(?), not a Communist (BBC)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Williamson leaving was a good thing and Austin literally started an anticorbyn campaign group called mainstream a few months ago (they did that negative poll of labour supporters that hit the news in September and also had an anti-corbyn banner outside the Labour party conference) so I don't know why it's suddenly news that he's anti-corbyn.
Bloke can’t even be bothered to attend festival of remembrance. That’s it for me.
As if what mate?
As if.
Corbyn not bothered to attend festival of remembrance wasn't the final straw for you(It seemed you were saying that, unless I've misread your post). You've disliked him for a long time, right ?
Dislike him yes. I’ve disliked a lot of politicians. Most leaders of the opposition have gone to these events. But here’s a guy that aspires to be the pm of this country and he cannot even bring himself to respect the people who gave everything so that he could have the freedom to stand up In public and give voice to the views that he holds. He will be at the cenotaph tomorrow and he will have had to been dragged there kicking and screaming.
Kicking and screaming... I doubt it... Probably just told him it's to honour terrorists and we would have been straight on it
Kicking and screaming... I doubt it... Probably just told him it's to honour terrorists and we would have been straight on it
Posting Daily Mail front pages to own the left.
And British forces have committed far greater atrocities than the one he’s supposed to have honoured here so perhaps attending the Cenotaph is actually worse
Jesus.
Come on mate, give your head a wobble, ffs.
Ok you posted that at almost 1am... I'm gonna hope you were drunk and are going to admit it was a stupid thing to say.
Otherwise feel free to defend that opinion and perhaps give us an insight into your echo chamber because I think that's a fairly and I'm gonna be generous in my wording here... So let's say a niche view
Hold on, maybe he has a point. After all, millions of people gave their lives so that, ultimately, he could post shit like that on an internet forum.
Perhaps we should have let Germany take over Europe instead.
Corbyn is there anyway, he looks very respectful, so this whole thing is bullshit.
Anything coming out of the press about Corbyn is bullshit.
Yes, it's too one sided, so much for an impartial media.
Imagine laying a wreath for British soldiers when you supported a terrorist organisation whose purpose was to murder them.
Have you now reversed your decision just like Boris did his promise at the leadership election about an enquiry into islamophobia in the Tory party?
Isn't remembrance day mostly about WW1(Armistice Day is on 11 November and is also known as Remembrance Day. It marks the day World War One ended, at 11am on the 11th day of the 11th month, in 1918)?
It's only recently been a tribute to these blokes and
and people dressing up as poppies.
Isn't remembrance day mostly about WW1 ? It's only recently been a tribute to these blokes
If they’re Jews on the ground then it’s OK.
will you give it a rest
What absolute fecking bullshit!
No
Anyway since you ignored my post, its completely possible to lay a wreath on Remembrance Day to remember the millions of working class men who lost their lives in WW1 and also be against British imperialism. It's really not a difficult stance to have unless of course British nationalism has caused some sort of brain rot.
If I was around someone who kept making ironic gay jokes(A pretty lazy ones as well, I mean there's no effort going on here), I would start thinking this person might actually be a bit of homophobe.
Although, admittedly, becoming more difficult thanks to the increasing mission creep of the poppy.
not even controversial
Your blatant weaponizing of antisemitism against political enemies is pathetic and it distracts from actual anti-semitism, especially when someone with a similar bad faith reading of your comments could misconstrue them the way you to do to others.
How do I misconstrue Corbyn’s actions?
you've compared him to hitler* and said he wants to kill jews. if this was satire it would have stopped being funny a while back.
* who knows though, that might be a positive comparison for you
I don’t think I have? Or if I have I cannot remember doing so.
Do I believe Corbyn wants to kill Jews? Of course not. Does he call terrorist organisations who kill Jews and want Israel wiped from the map his friends? Yes he does. To add to a whole host of other questionable behaviour and opinions over Israel and Jews.
Whether or not Corbyn himself is antisemitic is largely irrelevant though. It’s how he’s allowed a culture of antisemitic views to infest the Labour Party whilst he’s stood by and allowed it to reach a point where the EHRC deem it necessary to open an investigation into whether the party is institutionally racist.
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Imagine talking about political parties that are institutionally racist but not talking about the Tory party. Also Elvis what the feck is it with you and Israel? Dont you think the Israeli state (another great British "triumph" btw) and the massively over funded IDF are quite capable of looking after themselves? I mean they have almost killed off the pesky indigenous population of Palestine and in the middle of JCB bulldozing all the land for themselves. I am sure they can handle a few lefty politicians calling them names. But no lets get our Etonian school shorts in a twist over this but not talk about literally centuries of Empire building which cost millions in lives through war, famine and forced emigration. Dont fecking start with me on this bollocks lad.
Imagine talking about political parties that are institutionally racist but not talking about the Tory party. Also Elvis what the feck is it with you and Israel? Dont you think the Israeli state (another great British "triumph" btw) and the massively over funded IDF are quite capable of looking after themselves? I mean they have almost killed off the pesky indigenous population of Palestine and in the middle of JCB bulldozing all the land for themselves. I am sure they can handle a few lefty politicians calling them names. But no lets get our Etonian school shorts in a twist over this but not talk about literally centuries of Empire building which cost millions in lives through war, famine and forced emigration. Dont fecking start with me on this bollocks lad.
Yes, you and Colin have made endless remarks to either Hitler directly, "30s Germany", and I don't think you're talking about the SPD or KPD (and I don't think Colin knows what they are). Just on this page you implied that dead Jews would excite Corbyn.
He has said (and acted) similarly with the IRA, which wanted to kill people exactly like him.
You know the stats about anti-semitism in the party and the broader left, and before and after Corbyn, but here they are anyway:
So this fostering of anti-semitism has seen ... less anti-semitism in his party than in the ruling party.
It is a bit much to criticise him for praising Hezbollah when you literally, repeatedly praise Hitler.
I believe the Tory party are racist aswell. We don’t have to pick a side.
Not going to get into an Israel/Palestine debate because it’s been done to death and this isn’t the thread for it.
Yes, you and Colin have made endless remarks to either Hitler directly, "30s Germany", and I don't think you're talking about the SPD or KPD (and I don't think Colin knows what they are). Just on this page you implied that dead Jews would excite Corbyn.
He has said (and acted) similarly with the IRA, which wanted to kill people exactly like him.
You know the stats about anti-semitism in the party and the broader left, and before and after Corbyn, but here they are anyway:
So this fostering of anti-semitism has seen ... less anti-semitism in his party than in the ruling party.
It is a bit much to criticise him for praising Hezbollah when you literally, repeatedly praise Hitler.
You must have me confused with somebody else because I cannot remember ever referring to 30s Germany with regards to Corbyn, or comparing him to Hitler.
Yet you never comment or post about theirs.
I do, just not as much, because it’s a left wing forum so why preach to the choir? And it’s more to do with how angry I am at Corbyn and the Labour Leadership for turning it into a party who I cannot in good conscience vote for.
Yet to see much at all.
This is hardly a pro Corbyn forum, so you are preaching to the choir.
Well it seems you have picked a side in the end anyway.
i cant find the posts so i'm guessing either you deleted them or i was mixing up the corbyn responses from you, sun-tzu, and colin.
there's a post on this very page where you say corbyn would be happy with dead jews. how do you expect people to take you seriously?
besides, there's still the standing question of this missing anti-semitism - the labour membership, which, after all, surged when corbyn joined the party, is markedly less anti-semitic than the tory membership, even as the labour leader has been fostering it.
and finally, if you applied to yourself a tenth of the standards you apply to him, you'd never speak about any -ism again.
Because most people are in agreement about racism within the Tory Party...
I don’t delete posts so you must have me confused, as slanderous as it is I’ll let it lie.
So are you saying there is no issue of antisemtism in the Labour Party and that the EHRC and all the Jews are wrong? I can get on board with the idea of antisemtism being overplayed in the media to attack Corbyn and the Labour Party, whilst also criminally under reporting racism within the Conservatives. I just cannot fathom people like yourself who deny it’s even an issue.
Please try and understand that for the EHRC to launch an investigation they have to actively suspect illegal activity to have taken place. This is serious and should not be dismissed just because people like some of Corbyn’s policies.