SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

Definitely. They have by far the highest mortality rate (around 10%). Has to be much more cases then it is gone out.

Or it could conceivably be that Iran's medical infrastructure is very bad and that's the actual mortality rate. In line with people who don't recieve adequate medical care.
 
Or it could conceivably be that Iran's medical infrastructure is very bad and that's the actual mortality rate. In line with people who don't recieve adequate medical care.

It probably adds little to the rate, but it is still way to high. We are also talking about high government official dead and more of them being reported ill (those people certainly have an adequate medical care and are being tested as opposed to the rest of the country). I mean, out of around 250 cases in the whole country, you have more then 5 high profile people among them. That can't be right for sure.

Meaning that there are certainly much more cases among regular population.
 
With regards to Iran, I think they are just reporting mostly critical cases which is why the death rate is so high. There's probably so many that have it but symptoms are so mild they haven't even been tested for it to confirm
 
With regards to Iran, I think they are just reporting mostly critical cases which is why the death rate is so high. There's probably so many that have it but symptoms are so mild they haven't even been tested for it to confirm

Yeah, that is most likely.
 
I am actually in Lagos. Time to book my flight back to Birmingham.
If even a quarter of the population get infected, with a mortality rate of 2%, we are looking at over a hundred thousand casualties.
 
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I wonder if this is how the apocalypse begins. It just creeps on us, everybody joking as things get worse, in denial about it until suddenly...boom! It explodes, tens of thousands infected, dying, rioting, hysteria.

feck...crazy times ahead perhaps.
 
I wonder if this is how the apocalypse begins. It just creeps on us, everybody joking as things get worse, in denial about it until suddenly...boom! It explodes, tens of thousands infected, dying, rioting, hysteria.

feck...crazy times ahead perhaps.
Nope, not gonna happen.
 
I wonder if this is how the apocalypse begins. It just creeps on us, everybody joking as things get worse, in denial about it until suddenly...boom! It explodes, tens of thousands infected, dying, rioting, hysteria.

feck...crazy times ahead perhaps.
Ask Iran (or was it Pakistan?). They've basically had the 10 plagues thrown at them.
 
Nope, not gonna happen.

I don't know if not gonna happen the appocaliptic scenario, but I believe that millions will die and more than one of our circles (family, friends, coworkers, etc..) in these days with so much mobility and the easy way is transmitted, is just a matter of stadistics
 
No

You need an N95 mask for that.

And most masks don't fit well enough to give you full protection anyway with air flowing round the sides when you breath in.

That said any mask provides some protection even if only a limited amount. If nothing else if people with the disease sneeze a mask will reduce the transmission of the virus to other people by reducing spray.
That would still be something. It's amazing how many filthy feckers cough and sneeze without putting their hands over their mouths.
 
Bloody hell, the markets have started falling :(. Thats my liquidity killed for the next 6 months. Its even worse than when the H1N1 virus hit.
 
That would still be something. It's amazing how many filthy feckers cough and sneeze without putting their hands over their mouths.
Umm, they are not supposed to put their hands over their mouths. I am sure you know that, but phrasing is important in this thread
 
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The last couple of pandemics came for pigs (swine flu) and birds (avian flu).

The jump from species to species could just as easily happen from dogs, cats, gerbils, hamsters or rabbits. Hell, we all know that the Black Death came from rats.

The disgusting nature of the wet markets is only tangentially relevant.
The Black Death came from fleas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubonic_plague
 
I think it's feasible that the mortality rate is well below 1%, surely there are millions of people who don't show symptons (already proven), or barely have anything and don't report themselves.
 
Bloody hell, the markets have started falling :(. Thats my liquidity killed for the next 6 months. Its even worse than when the H1N1 virus hit.

There was always a global recession coming at some point soon, this could well be the trigger.

If this thing disappears as quickly as it came then the rebound may be very profitable for some.
 
I think it's feasible that the mortality rate is well below 1%, surely there are millions of people who don't show symptons (already proven), or barely have anything and don't report themselves.

That happens in all illnesess, we can only work with the numbers we know, like flu, like ebola, like SARS, etc...right now is 3.4% and people has way more awarness than any other common sickness
 
It will be interesting to see how well it spreads in a hot country.
Singapore is over 30 and kwait and hong kong over 20. But yes, a corona type virus doesn't fare well on hot weather. But the first wave of flu was in spring and it went down a lot in cases on summer but what was devastating, was the winter after when surged with virulence killing millions
 
Both right

Rats had the bubonic plague, fleas sucked the infected blood and they inflected the humans when they jumped from the rat to the human

black death came from the rats and the fleas were the transmiters. But rats could transmit directly to humans too
I suppose that's fair, the blood was from the rats.

Edit: this suggests it was human fleas and lice.
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-42690577
 
I wonder if this is how the apocalypse begins. It just creeps on us, everybody joking as things get worse, in denial about it until suddenly...boom! It explodes, tens of thousands infected, dying, rioting, hysteria.

feck...crazy times ahead perhaps.

If it prevents Liverpool from lifting the Premier League trophy, it will all be worth it. At the very least, they won't be having any open top bus parades.
 
That happens in all illnesess, we can only work with the numbers we know, like flu, like ebola, like SARS, etc...right now is 3.4% and people has way more awarness than any other common sickness
Important to note that 94,5% of the total number of infected comes out of China, and I simply don't trust any numbers that come from them (each to their own, I guess). Iran, definitely likewise. If you look at South Korea, albeit a sample size of only 2k, the mortality rate is at 0,65%.
 
Important to note that 94,5% of the total number of infected comes out of China, and I simply don't trust any numbers that come from them (each to their own, I guess). Iran, definitely likewise. If you look at South Korea, albeit a sample size of only 2k, the mortality rate is at 0,65%.

Yes, mortality will vary and the stronger the health system the better. Will need to see if they collpase. Is not the same treating 65.000 in hubei than 2000 in the whole corea.

Also, will see if it spreads out in countries in developement with poor health care system (and collapsed) . I know that we tend to be self centered and we think in our personal circumstances, but the data is global and for now is what it is
 
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Yes, mortality will vary and the stronger the health system the better. Will need to see if they collpase. Is not the same treating 65.000 in hubei than 2000 in the whole corea.

Also, will see if it spreads out in countries in developement with poor health care system (and collapsed) . I know that we tend to be self centered and we thing in our personal circumstances, but the data is global and for now is what it is
Yeah obviously, agreed. I think it could get much worse if it spreads in those areas, not good to see a case reported in Nigeria today.
 
Yeah obviously, agreed. I think it could get much worse if it spreads in those areas, not good to see a case reported in Nigeria today.

I am pesimistic realistic always, but i think is quite unavoidable that will be the worst epidemic/pandemic of the XXI century till today
 
So what's the story with how this plays out then?

Im not a medical mind at all.
How does this kind of thing go away?
Does it go away ?
Does it become a flu type thing that just remains a risk?
Is it going to get stronger and wipe out half the planets population?
Is it only a death risk for really sick old people?