this flu season in general has been very virulent. wouldn't read too much into that, given the timeline.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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The key is to control the spread. In parallel communicate and educate the public on self responsibility.
So from 40 to 51 and now 51 to 85. I can imagine this going up to 150 tomorrow. This doesn't seem like containment to me.
It's always likely to be exponential growth in the early stages of an outbreak as people get infected and infect others before you even get a handle on detection.
Well, from what I've read the initial outbreak was in early to mid December.
Even if it goes up to 150 by 5 March. That's pretty good going considering the virus has been around and probably silently international for about two months. We're just waiting for the warmer climes in about a month which should hopefully see it fade. As most cold weather based viruses (flu, etc) do.
There isn't a containment play in play. That's why they have already told you to expect the worst. Manage expectations and washing their hands off their responsibilities.
They are bring reactive.
Containment and prevention are the responsibility of the Govt.
The problems/financial opportunities are with realms of the private sector.
Never waste a good crisis.
in Wuhan.
The spread only really began to happen in connection with the Chinese new year.
Oh? Korea had 354 cases 11 days ago.
As of today, they have 5,261 ... some 11 days later. Adding 435 today.
First case in Poland confirmed today. Things getting out of control.
All this seems to point to me is that the Italian number of cases is way off, so many people travelling back from Italy with it.
It's now in too many places for the department of health to tell us about in real time 
It's now in too many places for the department of health to tell us about in real time
Once a week?!
Why did Italy get it so bad over anywhere else in Europe? That's what I want to know.
I've thought about that and I think the number of cases is to do with tourists being in public spaces where infection can be picked up easily. I reckon there must have been a spread at the airports where there are many surfaces to be cough and sneezed on as well as people often in close proximity.
Why on earth did they announce a reduced police response?
Nobody really knows, but it's probably just that they're ahead of the curve. Reverse tracing suggests the virus was freely circulating there in January, weeks before the first person showed up with symptoms. By the time the first case was caught hundreds already had it.
Maybe that has meant other European countries have been more vigilant in detection but the increase in the last couple of days suggests they will be catching up soon. Italy went from practically nothing to hundreds in 3 days, just as Germany, France and Spain have done since the weekend.
Confirmed case in the hospital a mile away from me in Orpington (heard about it from someone who works there).
Unfortunately my (very) elderly Nan is currently there and I've been to see her every day for the last week..
Unfortunately my (very) elderly Nan is currently there and I've been to see her every day for the last week..
I'm sure many fell ill before the new year and made nothing of it hence why the huge number of confirmed cases in one city.
I wonder if it'll be enough. China has decreased the amount of new cases but only after extreme measures were taken. I think you can't even access other floors of apartment buildings, there's checks on who you've had contact with and constant checks to see if you have a fever.
Quite important news that its been confirmed in Valencia in a patient who died 3 weeks ago. That means it was circulating there for over a week before the Italian outbreak. Who knows how many cases there really are in Spain by now.
Link in Italian but Google Translate does a good job of it - https://tg24.sky.it/mondo/2020/03/04/coronavirus-spagna-morto.html
Link in Italian but Google Translate does a good job of it - https://tg24.sky.it/mondo/2020/03/04/coronavirus-spagna-morto.html
Obviously.
The spread from that region didn't really happen until the Chinese New Year was underway though. The odds of you catching it in London in the first week of January are as good as zero.
my word!Pointed out to me? This is the first response I’ve received, albeit I probably didn’t read the rest of the thread? Anyway, I don’t really spend loads of time on the net outside of streaming & Redcafe (I don’t have any social media accounts except for LinkedIn).
The closest thing I remember resembling Onion was a funny old Scottish guy (I think) - the auld Onion bag? Who always provided some funny insights into footy. But that was a long time ago.
Can the buckethead woman breathe?
It's now in too many places for the department of health to tell us about in real time
That's disgraceful really.
You dirty rat Elvis. You know, snitches get to sleep in the stable when they visit.
Besides, @Penna and I have been working on a vaccine and will be profiteering after we've bought up all the supplies of peaches and onions in Europe.
It's now in too many places for the department of health to tell us about in real time
That's outrageous. And being in too many places is in no way an excuse for it.
They simply think it's best this way. It isn't, information will still come out from the places where these people will be dying (you really can't control healthcare workers in a democratic country) as thousands will be involved in their care.
It just will be far less reliable and uncoordinated and decreae people's trust in the government.
Besides, this information isn't important just for local authorities, because studying this on a global scale requires that everyone be open with their data. There are some smart guys you never heard of in the other side of the world that can do wonders with this data if it's accurate.
Ant man helmet close to half price on Zavvi at the moment. Added bonus being that you can shrink yourself to the size of the virus so it can't get in you.
Hmm...great idea, must be a better than a flimsy surgeon's mask. My head is kind of big though so not sure if it would fit.
Read the thread..
By this logic it shouldn't circulate in office environments kept at say 20c?
I've yet to see anyone credible state that spring will help. I've seen officials say they don't know and it's too uncertain to say. MERS and SARS for instance weren't that impacted by the seasons.
Depends on how long it can survive in that heat.