Do you have the same thoughts about Germany? So far they've done the same thing and Merkel told the country most of them will get it.
I can't imagine the hysteria and glowing praise heaped on France if they had for example 500 cases with 8 deaths and England had 2500 cases with 65 deaths. People love waxing lyrical about France's healthcare spending.
UK is very low still on cases and deaths per million and the country which is advised by experts will make moves when we hit the rates others have done probably, and those others are not shining examples of anything yet. Follow Spain or France's timeline, Spain still added 500-700 cases per day.
You have way too many posts simply lambasting the government.
Country,
OtherTotal
CasesActive
CasesTot Cases/
1M popItaly 15,113 12,839 250.0 S. Korea 7,869 7,470 153.5 Norway 800 798 147.6 Iran 10,075 6,370 120.0 Denmark 674 673 116.4 Bahrain 197 162 115.8 Switzerland 868 857 100.3 Qatar 262 262 90.9 Sweden 687 685 68.0 Spain 3,146 2,871 67.3 China 80,796 14,791 56.1 Slovenia 96 96 46.2 France 2,876 2,803 44.1 Austria 361 356 40.1 Netherlands 614 607 35.8 Belgium 399 395 34.4 Germany 2,745 2,714 32.8 Singapore 187 91 32.0 Estonia 27 27 20.4 Finland 109 108 19.7 Kuwait 80 75 18.7 Hong Kong 130 50 17.3 Ireland 70 69 14.2 Israel 109 105 12.6 Greece 117 116 11.2 Czechia 113 113 10.6 Lebanon 68 64 10.0 UK 590 562 8.7
I'm just sceptical about someone touting the below credentials and everyone posting random tweets like they are revealing new facts.Dunno but she makes a good point. Get it right and you could cop criticism for overeating.
"We shut the world down and it wasn't that bad"
And we all know that to politician that the only worse thing to people doing is them getting criticised.
Here’s a thread to make you feel better about the world:
I'm just sceptical about someone touting the below credentials and everyone posting random tweets like they are revealing new facts.
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The grauniad have an article up with 4 different expert perspectives on the UK course of action ranging from positive to negative, so maybe we can dispense with the "all" or "most" experts agree with Boris bollocks. It seems there is a range of opinion, a weighing up of pros and cons of the severity of restrictions and a timing issue.
We're in it now so I guess we've just got to hope those in charge have our best interests at heart and have sound judgement.
Oh feck.
Millions of people voted for this shit house of a government.
I can’t believe the government aren’t doing anything, at the very least encourage people to work from home?I don't even feel angry anymore. We deserve it.
Some interesting stats collected by a task force in Italy
https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronavirus/bollettino/covid-19-infografica_eng.pdf
I hope it is true. Israel's minister of science says that a vaccine will be ready within 3 months. This won't happen according to the scientists of the company who is making the vaccine, but apparently it can happen much sooner than the forecasted 18 months. Maybe the urgency of the situation, with dozens of top-notch companies working on it will make a vaccine available faster than it is expected. And maybe the regulations will be softened.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israe...avirus-on-track-but-testing-will-take-months/
Get tested just to be on the safe side.Haven't gone in today. Have developed a dry cough over the last night, temperature still seems fine (don't have a thermometer) but it seems stupid to potentially risk it at work.
On a different note, my breathing has become a tiny bit whistly (especially when I'm breathing in). Just something I noticed, is that just completely unrelated?
They won't test him for those symptoms alone. He might be able to get a phone call from his GP if he mentions the breathing issue.Get tested just to be on the safe side.
Dont think they do unless you can say youve been in contact with someone who has it. Let us know what comes of your 111 call if you make it though skillsGet tested just to be on the safe side.
Daily infection rate is very high here. Talk of complete shutdown beginning with Monday like in Italy.
Very interesting. I am glad they have started putting this kind of thing out, its just been raw data up to now.
I see the symptom onset to case diagnosis tracks almost perfectly with a 5 day offset. So if this lockdown works there should be a positive trend from the beginning of next week.
For those complaining about the UK's approach, all schools and public events were shut down on 4 March but in reality most had already been closed a week earlier by local governments. It doesnt make a difference to the spread.
He probably pissed the doctor off.
My partner's mum just had her mouth swabbed.
EDIT - A few places are doing drive through tests, aren't they? The image of that with rectal swabs is amazing.
Well he does talk out of his arse so I can fully understand any mix upThey did that, too. He was pretty ill so it could have been for something else.
Where is here?
Austria. Feel we should have acted quicker. The shit is spreading quicker than anywhere else in Europe atm.
Yeah the breathing issue is the reason I suggested that it would be better to get it tested. But yeah even if his GP is personally aware of his conditions then they can at least monitor the same to see if the prescription medicine is having any benefit.They won't test him for those symptoms alone. He might be able to get a phone call from his GP if he mentions the breathing issue.
Hard to be sure about that no? I mean it could be a random encounter somewhere or touching something which was previously touched by someone carrying the virus.Dont think they do unless you can say youve been in contact with someone who has it. Let us know what comes of your 111 call if you make it though skills
Enlightened one, please explain our error.That would involve those mindlessly parroting the advice from press conferences to actually use some critical thinking. Rather than "I repeat Vallance, i so smart".
I mean we've got someone above saying if we do strict measures now then the peak is still 3 weeks away so we can't. I'd hope they've got the faculty to realise the error there.
Of course it is, its ridiculous but its apparently what people are being told when they ring 111Yeah the breathing issue is the reason I suggested that it would be better to get it tested. But yeah even if his GP is personally aware of his conditions then they can at least monitor the same to see if the prescription medicine is having any benefit.
Hard to be sure about that no? I mean it could be a random encounter somewhere or touching something which was previously touched by someone carrying the virus.
Testing costs money and time. It will be impossible to even consider keeping up with testing soon and the value of it will reduce and reduce. It’s normal that we will switch to maintain the statistics through sampling.I was at meeting yesterday where I was told that NHS will stop testing all but life threatening cases.
It looks like we are going to let it spread through the population slowly, as was previously touted, and no testing will mask the infection figures to curb hysteria.
I was at meeting yesterday where I was told that NHS will stop testing all but life threatening cases.
It looks like we are going to let it spread through the population slowly, as was previously touted, and no testing will mask the infection figures to curb hysteria.
You think Kim Jong Un doesn't already have a cure?What makes you think that? It's not like they will report it. No chance of them not having it considering their close relationship with China.
Testing costs money and time. It will be impossible to even consider keeping up with testing soon and the value of it will reduce and reduce. It’s normal that we will switch to maintain the statistics through sampling.
He does, bullets.You think Kim Jong Un doesn't already have a cure?
Here’s a thread to make you feel better about the world:
They don't have the capacity to test everyone. Even at ten thousand tests per day they won't have the capacity to test everyone with symptoms.I was at meeting yesterday where I was told that NHS will stop testing all but life threatening cases.
It looks like we are going to let it spread through the population slowly, as was previously touted, and no testing will mask the infection figures to curb hysteria.
I can’t believe the government aren’t doing anything, at the very least encourage people to work from home?
It’s almost like they want it to spread.
*Testing will only focus on identifying people with the virus in hospital*
For me that sentence is the most worrying, it contradicts the approach of ramping up to 10000 cases. Aside from perhaps the US and there utter incompetence this isn't a path shared by many countries.
The only people getting admitted to the hospital will be those in need or critical care, 10-15% of cases which will reduce the amount of cases being reported significantly causing a major false sense of security in the public and reduces the chances of the UK detecting a cluster forming ala, Iran, Italy, South Korea, it will completely blindside the UK.
What if an elderly couple in a care home contract this from someone that had all the symptoms but was not sick enough to get admitted to the hospital to get tested. The couple get moved to hospital after symptoms arrive, the governments new measures now mean the remaining people in that care home won't be tested until admitted to the hospital.
This is not what South Korea or any country that have turned the tide are doing.
Yes, he's talking about targeted advice to oldies etc. Things like reducing/stopping visits to care homes.Jeremy Hnut not convinced by some of the government advice.
