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SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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Same, my dad's in his early 70s and still smokes plenty, has a bad cough at the best of times. Just gonna be constant stress for the next few months.
Trying to find details on how exactly this works, Its not clear cut - As per gov.uk - "You’re allowed a reasonable amount of time off to deal with the emergency, but there’s no set amount of time as it depends on the situation"
RUSSIA BEYONDWhat on earth are you talking about?
https://www.rbth.com/lifestyle/331816-russia-coronavirus-pandemic
Get Fox News sources in here, lads!RUSSIA BEYOND
On the ignore list you go, not least because of you spouting bollocks in this thread, by parroting everything Vallance said, whom was picked by Johnson and Cummings. Bye now.
This is prime time for them, just like when the transfer window opens in football.
Why are you so intent on believing every word from a newspaper(s) anyway?
How long before The Walkin Dude makes his appearance?
Ah yes the Daily Mail has a vest interested in bringing down this tory government. Come on you're just shit posting, right now(Well at least I hope you are)
The Tory government is in for 5 years, they don't care. It's full on selling newspapers at this point.
Pretty much every outlet is censored by the government in Russia. It doesn't mean they give false information at all times. Sure, it's censored but again I've no reason to disbelieve, my close friends and family.
Are you seriously suggesting we should use the Daily Mail as a source?
Well your friends and family will only know what is going on around them and also will likely only be fed news from state funded outlets, i.e. news the government approves. So whilst your friends/family seem to be safe (which I am glad about) it doesn't really mean much about the current state of Russia. Like I said, its hard to say either way, they could be doing very well or could also be struggling like many other countries.
FFS, even if this really works, it is absolutely tragic. And there are so many assumptions there for this to work, if just one of them is incorrect, the entire house gets burned.
It’s about timing. I imagine the government’s preferred strategy was to hold out longer, but they have been undermined by various institutions making unilateral decisions and the domino effect has started. There’s no consideration that the FA and PL have a better handling on this. They are just self protecting their staff, their stakeholders and their reputation, which is understandable.
I am 90% certain the leading minds behind the government’s strategy will have plotted out key milestones for when they want to take certain measures based on the estimated number of cases from sampling. Some of these may come very quickly, some more slowly. We could all sit here and list the messages. They aren’t going to be big surprises. It is impossible for them to say with certainty exactly when these messages will be deployed though, because it is all based on the modelling and then how quickly or slowly the virus spreads in reality.
Do a lockdown now, and probably you won't ever reach hundreds of thousands of people getting infected, or you reach it much slower, giving the medics and the scientists a chance.
China had 80k cases a few weeks ago. They have 80k cases now. It can clearly be managed (up to some degree and some time).
Everything in science is assumptions. The battery in your phone/laptop will be assumed to last a certain period of cycles for example, based on rigious tests of other batteries. The assumptions are usually not the issue, its whether you understand the implications of your assumptions and take those implications into account. I remember some worst case scenarios being discussed early in the thread so it seems that those implications are at least being acknowledged and discussed.
Batman gambit.
What a loss. Now I am going to miss out on links to sources on how Russia is perfectly handling the coronavirus crisis published by entities openly funded by the Russian government.
You gotta be very naive to believe reports from Turkey and Russia. We would've probably still have Iran on that "no cases" list if it wasn't for their full of shit government getting the bug themselves to the point they couldn't even lie properly.
I posted a tweet on the last page showing the Daily Mail praising Johnston and the tories while they were telling their staff the government advice is no longer adequate(Basically lying to their readership who are mostly likely to die from this virus). When the Daily Mail is saying it's a u turn then you know the tories have fecked up.
It will come back in China as soon as the restrictions are lifted, the UK are trying to make sure most of the cases happen over summer.
I know this. What I mean is that, if this plan works, 1 million British people die (66.4m * 0.7 * 0.02 = circa 1m). If it doesn't, several million more die.
And there is still hope that it does not need to be as bad. China and Korea at the moment are still able to manage this, despite that they have more cases. If we delay the spread for a year, there is a hope for vaccine, or anti-virals.
This is not a plan. This is a surrender.
I will make a bet with you of Italy reaching assumed millions of cases. It won’t be confirmed cases because obviously testing won’t keep up, and it isn’t already. Make it ethical and £20 to a relevant charity. This is one bet I hope I lose.
The situation is far worse in Europe now than Hubei. Hubei you could work outwards from a core of initial cases. Europe the cases are everywhere and the whole continent is almost infected with hotspots growing.
Not necessarily. What if they keep the restrictions for a month after no new cases are confirmed, and then gradually start lowering them, while still keeping a closed border?
I don't care what the Daily Mail says though.
Oh, it will most certainly will. Just that it will reach slower than the current projections.
Keep the money. You will need them to buy toilet paper.
Except my granny, literally none of my friends or family watch mainstream news. Mostly, follow stuff on social media, vk and Instagram being primary platforms. And thank you. My grandmother has hypertension and heart disease so she's a high risk so I hope to God the news coming out of russia is true. I'm mean by the looks of things, eastern European countries are actually doing a good job. Poland has been proactive. Romania have been very good.
If there was a way to get it, recover and move on id do it. At least id know im not a threat when delivering goods to my parents
So stopping mass gatherings is on the cards soon, seems inline with first steps others took when in our current position. When we get to around 2000 cases and 30 deaths or some significant shift in the data perhaps schools closures will come into force here.
I don't think other countries have done significantly more testing, they don't give out numbers. We have UK and Italy numbers and these were very similar, UK had about 24/25k tested with 300 cases and 4-5 deaths while Italy had 2500 cases and 70 odd deaths out of 24/25k in the same week, that's a lot of tests for the mild situation. You might find some countries below and you can speculate the real number for all the countries.
Spain, from searching, announced closing a lot of schools in hard hit regions 5 days ago, this move was off the back of large increases doubling and trebling of new cases and it hasn't stopped since. They actually resisted but changed when the sitatuion dramatically worsened, they weren't pro active like some want to make out.
https://www.ft.com/content/b91c1de6-6246-11ea-a6cd-df28cc3c6a68
I don't think other countries have done significantly more testing, they don't give out numbers. We have UK and Italy numbers and these were very similar, UK had about 24/25k tested with 300 cases and 4-5 deaths while Italy had 2500 cases and 70 odd deaths out of 24/25k in the same week, that's a lot of tests for the mild situation. You might find some countries below and you can speculate the real number for all the countries.
Spain, from searching, announced closing a lot of schools in hard hit regions 5 days ago, this move was off the back of large increases doubling and trebling of new cases and it hasn't stopped since. They actually resisted but changed when the sitatuion dramatically worsened, they weren't pro active like some want to make out.
https://www.ft.com/content/b91c1de6-6246-11ea-a6cd-df28cc3c6a68
So you use the daily mail as your sources of information and have the cheek to say other people are shitposting
Here's the government's actual plan, as defined on 3 March 2020:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...-a-guide-to-what-you-can-expect-across-the-uk
And a helpful infographic:
We're on the same course we set out on 11 days ago. These aren't u-turns. They're pre-determined progressions from phase to phase. The 'limit large gatherings' stage was always in the pipeline.
When we get to the 'close schools' stage and later on the 'delay non-urgent care and employ retired medical staff' stage, those won't be u-turns either. Even if the message beforehand is that we're not ready for that yet.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...-a-guide-to-what-you-can-expect-across-the-uk
And a helpful infographic:
We're on the same course we set out on 11 days ago. These aren't u-turns. They're pre-determined progressions from phase to phase. The 'limit large gatherings' stage was always in the pipeline.
When we get to the 'close schools' stage and later on the 'delay non-urgent care and employ retired medical staff' stage, those won't be u-turns either. Even if the message beforehand is that we're not ready for that yet.
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It was a internal email and reported on by a FT journalistSo you use the daily mail as your sources of information and have the cheek to say other people are shitposting
Again the Daily Mail has vested interest in a giving the public a positive view of the tory party, so when they admit the tory government has fecked up, you know that it's well.......... a feck up. This isn't very difficult to understand.
I almost want people here who unnecessarily stock up on things causing empty shelves to contract it, nevermind an asshat like Trump.
Any other public sector organisations got a “mass working from home day” to stress test next week? We have ours on Thursday. I’ve been somewhat expecting the government to push the working from home aspect further, but it will be the public sector that is least ready to do this en masse out of all big business. I wonder if they’ve been briefed confidentiality that the week commencing 23rd March will be the switch. It feels like it will be necessary well before then though and our organisation is being beyond tardy in only stress testing so late.
Meanwhile, in a locked-down Italian city.