It's nice to see there is still attempts at discussing the obvious.
The season will be voided, simple.
I have spoken.
The season will be voided, simple.
I have spoken.
Could they void the PL due to the Coronavirus? | No | Resuming June 17th
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What does everyone make of this?
1) Season to be finished behind closed doors
2) To reduce impact all games to be played at a few neutral venues
3) All games televised
What does everyone make of this?
1) Season to be finished behind closed doors
2) To reduce impact all games to be played at a few neutral venues
3) All games televised
Lots of the players and staff will be Covid positive still, like the rest of the population. Government now saying this could go on for 18 months. So don't see how they'll be able to play matches?
Not its not. The worst case scenario is trying to finish a season in the midst of a pandemic, and just saying we can finish it June July August, or whenever, it is clear we don't know the future and just "hoping" despite the evidence that this could go on for a while, doesn't make it fact.
In any event, when April 4th comes around they will probably announce the way forward to give more light to the many theories so fiercely advocated for on here.
Exactly, can't understand why people think there is a possibility to finish the season this year.
Those in quarantine now, 14 days, another player, quarantine again, another 14 days again, and so it will go.
It will never happen BCDs until there is not a single player, staff, family member of players/staff that have been tested and cleared as negative.
Not the worst idea.
Started watching Breaking Bad again the other day. It's still as great today as it ever was
I rewatched it leading up to El Camino
The thing that really struck me second time around was just how terrible it constantly was for Jessie. I don’t remember being quiet so aware of it first time around.
seems completely nonsensical given the current situation, almost as if a Mail journo plucked it from his arse
That's because you didn't read the previous posts I made:
Your bad, because nowhere did I insinuate that matches should be played in the midst of the epidemic. Regardless, how would it make any sense to play even though public gatherings are being outlawed? The assumption in this thread has always been when it is safe to play again. Nobody is asking anyone to put their life on the line for football. You're just very eager to cancel the season for some reason.
Obviously no and once again nobody argued that utterly ridiculous straw man point. The assumption was always when it is alright to play again.
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Sure but I can’t see them not playing any football / sporting events for months on end. There’s too many sporting clubs who need the money from TV revenue and Attendance. You’ll pretty much wipe out every club in league one and below if you go too long without football. and that’s just one sport in one country
I know people on here want us believing sport and normal life will be gone for the foreseeable future but they aren’t considering the effect that has.
A way will be found forward even if it is in the peak. They’ll up security and safety measures etc. Keep a space in between seats, have sanitizer everywhere. Something. They’ll learn more about it day by day and find ways to deal with it
Nobody is arguing about finishing the season or starting a new season in the midst of a pandemic. The choices were to void the season and start the subsequent season OR finish the remainder of the season and then start the subsequent season. Both cases assume football will start when it's not a health risk to play. It's simple stuff.
Isn't the claims that Italy, Spain and Germany will be null and voided ?
In terms of point 2, even if clubs agree to modify the window we can still end up losing players to other countries. ziyech is already set to join Chelsea
This is all so much bigger than football. I feel pretty confident you won't see a sporting event of any great note before the summer, and even then I still have huge doubts. You just don't seem to grasp that as much as those businesses will suffer, and many clubs will sadly die, they still have to put keeping people healthy first, and rightfully so. The government will have to help money wise, because we won't be seeing football for a long time unless there's a real big shift in whats happening with this virus.
I don't think anyone wants to believe sport and life is gone for the foreseeable future? That's a weird perspective, it's sadly just people being realistic and looking beyond their love of football.
Liverpool FC briefing the media in attempts to drum up support I reckon.
There is also another dangerous aspect to all of this, If the season was even played behind closed doors I would imagine there would be a huge crowd of Liverpool fans outside the stadium cheering the team on. Can we allow such a mass gathering regarding public safety and social distancing?
It would be nice to have some football to watch, even if it did ensure Liverpool won the title. I still don’t see how it will be manageable though.
By the time it’s safe to play again we will be well into when next season should start.
I’m dead against Football behind Closed doors. People need to remember football is for fans, not for millionaires to make more money. No fans, no football. Simple.
This season is a write off already, yet people want to write next season off or changes just to accommodate this season. So instead of one fecked up season they want a knock on effect of fecked UK seasons for years.
This thread is a clusterfeck. I can’t wait for the season to be voided
I've never seen any credible sources state the seasons in any of those leagues is about to cancelled. What I have seen is many leagues are in danger of going bankrupt, which makes cancelling or not cancelling the season irrlevant.
Like I said before the terms of these expiring contracts can be renegotiated/amended due to these once in a lifetime circumstances. In your Ziyech example, (or any player who is supposed to join a PL club) he can't be registered so it doesn't matter for the club he's moving too.
Unless all the rules about isolation, quarantine and limiting the spread change by then, no chance.
If we were a dictatorship would probably agree with you, can't see any elected politician sentencing 100-500k people to death though. To them, economic damage looks secondary to being called the covid "butcher" or whatever.
Bingo. The pragmatic, and right, call, would be to feck this season to preserve the future of football.
Not really your choice what even if you are dead against it. Football needs money to run and if temporarily playing behind closed doors can ensure the survival of clubs I think any rational fan would take that.
Nobody is saying write off the next season. You are completely making that up. Domestic competitions are the lifeblood of football. If anything a shortened, condensed, or extended season would happen, along with the cancellation of domestic cups and/or a shortened transfer window. The moving of Euro 2020 also helps facilitate this. There are plenty of options to explore that don't entail the legal nightmare of voiding the season.
I did read your posts. All your bold parts are:
They are better off waiting to see what happens.
even if it is condensed to 4 weeks and runs into August, let contracts run out, and delay the transfer window and subsequent season.
Considering English is not my first language. Could any natural speaker here tell me the above has anything similar; or any part of those would mean "when it's fine to play" please? Because I'm still unable to see it.
By writing off, I meant more adjusting, altering and fecking about with more than outright cancelling it.
So what team’s will not fold by playing bcd? Certainly not going to help lower league teams, they need gate receipts.
The point of bcd is to satisfy the bigger teams who may be able to play bcd to finalise euro positions etc? That may benefit one or two clubs.
And saying it’s not my choice made me laugh, I wish it was
I'm seriously worried for the status of the game up here. A lot of clubs are already in financial difficulties and this crises could end seeing the end of some clubs, which would be such a shame. It's already happening with Barnet, I can certainly see it happening up here over the next wee while.
I have fortunately just got the Witcher 3 for my Xbox so I'm quite pleased that my free time will be spent productively at least.
I can see the players reaction to this amazing plan. S*d off. Typical greed from the premier league. Doesn't even mention about all the other leagues in the country. Me me me, that is all they care about.
BCD is so crap though. I’d almost rather have no football at all than watch BCD games. The LASK game was one of the most depressing games of football I’ve ever watched, and we won 5-0!
i know, it really is. but it's still better than having no sport at all. but i think this is all a non-starter anyway, i don't think the premier league and co realise that we're in this for a long while yet.
No chance at all of this season being completed in my opinion.
I don't understand how anyone other than Liverpool fans / ex players could genuinely support awarding the title before all matches are played. This goes against the very value and ethos of competitive, professional sports. And it is not sportingly for Man City or anyone else to just concede title. It is unsportingly or anti-sporting.
Imagine a scenario where there is no corona virus. We would have just beaten Spurs and will play LASK tomorrow, with a 5-0 lead. Lingard scores a hat trick in the first half, and it is 8-0 on aggregate at half time. Suddenly there is a "suspect parcel" in one of the stands, and the match is abandoned out of public safety concerns, just as the Bornemouth match under LVG. The match then can't be rescheduled in a couple of days because we have FA cup and LASK have their Austrian league fixture. Rescheduling to the international week may not be feasible for various reasons, and the next round of Europa League happens in three weeks. Inter Milan fans would need to know whether they are travelling to Manchester or Austria. So what does UEFA do?
No team in the history of European football overturned an eight-goal deficit, ever. United never even conceded a goal to Austrian oppositions in the last eight matches (I could be wrong on that but I heard from some commentators), let alone 8 goals in 45 minutes. The odds of United not qualifying after 180 minutes from an 8-0 lead is as low as anything in football. But would anyone even suggest that LASK should just forfeit the last 45 minutes of the tie?
Award QF place to Man United? "If you are 8-0 down after 135 minutes you are as good as lost. You should have done better up till now." (The same theory as "Man City / Norwich should have done better in those 28 matches before".)
"Man United deserved to go through because they have been the better team by far" (from the "neutrals").
"I wouldn't mind letting Man United go through" (from the "reasonable LASK fans").
I think anyone could see that the only way for Man United to progress regardless of 8-0 lead or 10-0 lead is to reschedule and finish the match. Anything else is just absurd, and anti-sporting.
Why would the league be any different? If the league is not played out, no award or relegation can be sportingly given out. As for European places, that is UEFA's concern in the main. No self-interest, financial incentives or disincentives, pride or hatred, should get in the way of fair, competitive, sporting competition. Taking away the chance of a team because they are eight goals behind is unfair. Taking away the chance of a team because they are eight matches behind is unfair, too.
Imagine a scenario where there is no corona virus. We would have just beaten Spurs and will play LASK tomorrow, with a 5-0 lead. Lingard scores a hat trick in the first half, and it is 8-0 on aggregate at half time. Suddenly there is a "suspect parcel" in one of the stands, and the match is abandoned out of public safety concerns, just as the Bornemouth match under LVG. The match then can't be rescheduled in a couple of days because we have FA cup and LASK have their Austrian league fixture. Rescheduling to the international week may not be feasible for various reasons, and the next round of Europa League happens in three weeks. Inter Milan fans would need to know whether they are travelling to Manchester or Austria. So what does UEFA do?
No team in the history of European football overturned an eight-goal deficit, ever. United never even conceded a goal to Austrian oppositions in the last eight matches (I could be wrong on that but I heard from some commentators), let alone 8 goals in 45 minutes. The odds of United not qualifying after 180 minutes from an 8-0 lead is as low as anything in football. But would anyone even suggest that LASK should just forfeit the last 45 minutes of the tie?
Award QF place to Man United? "If you are 8-0 down after 135 minutes you are as good as lost. You should have done better up till now." (The same theory as "Man City / Norwich should have done better in those 28 matches before".)
"Man United deserved to go through because they have been the better team by far" (from the "neutrals").
"I wouldn't mind letting Man United go through" (from the "reasonable LASK fans").
I think anyone could see that the only way for Man United to progress regardless of 8-0 lead or 10-0 lead is to reschedule and finish the match. Anything else is just absurd, and anti-sporting.
Why would the league be any different? If the league is not played out, no award or relegation can be sportingly given out. As for European places, that is UEFA's concern in the main. No self-interest, financial incentives or disincentives, pride or hatred, should get in the way of fair, competitive, sporting competition. Taking away the chance of a team because they are eight goals behind is unfair. Taking away the chance of a team because they are eight matches behind is unfair, too.
The plan for everyone seems to be finish before july, but if that can't be done the claims are that the results will be null and void.
Whats the point ? Even if contracts can be extended, some won't, even if England decides to change the transfer window it needs to be done all over europe in order to avoid PL teams being shafted. Some clubs will depend on selling players in order to survive this.
The way this thing is developing there might not even be a next season.
Rooney will put on his turtleneck and give us another editorial masterpiece
Really though, I do agree with him. Under no circumstances should footballers be made to play games during a time like this. It's literally putting their lives and those of their families in jeopardy.
Season is over definitely. Hopefully it will be safe to commence next season.
After I posted the above it got met with the following:
Interesting turn now with FIFA holding talks over ramifications to the game, including players who may be asked to complete domestic seasons out of contract.
Guess we'll know very soon if my idea was utter pie in the sky bullshit, or if FIFA can enforce it or at least make it extremely difficult for players to say no.
https://www.skysports.com/football/...rus-fifa-reviewing-impact-on-player-contracts
As it stands, I don't even see how next season could start on schedule, much less the chances of this season being completed.
Several countries have already begun closing their borders. Malaysia, Kenya, Canada, off the top of my head have done so. The EU has announced travel restrictions, have they not?
This is way more serious than those who believe the season would be underway by the time April rolls in think.
Several countries have already begun closing their borders. Malaysia, Kenya, Canada, off the top of my head have done so. The EU has announced travel restrictions, have they not?
This is way more serious than those who believe the season would be underway by the time April rolls in think.
The EFL clubs are adamant that the season needs to finish and have agreed on their preferred approach - indefinitely suspend the season to allow players/coaching staff to have time off. Then when the season is ready to resume (by the way this in their estimation is not happening before August at the earliest!) have a short "pre-season" and then finish playing the rest of the season. They will now lobby the EFL board, FA, Premier League and UEFA.
Whatever happens I think the harsh reality is we aren't going to be able to watch football live in stadiums for considerable amount of time.
Whatever happens I think the harsh reality is we aren't going to be able to watch football live in stadiums for considerable amount of time.
30 days everywhere it appears, after that who knows.
I have an extra job in a place where we're often 50-100 or more at the same time, no getting around it. Same with many many professions so I see no reason why football shouldn't be able to start up again BCD in May-June.
I don't see how. They have a contract, it expires. Opening up for short term extensions could be one possible scenario, but the league might not finish for quite some time, so..Loan deal that expires at the "end of the season" ?
Agree, this is probably the most possible scenario I think. It's just against their interests to void the season so imo they would only do so when there is no other option left. For example it's mid August and still not safe to resume the leagues.
We won't hear anything like the leagues are voided anytime soon I think.
Not sure I follow your point?
You say Liverpool shouldn't be awarded the league even though they have a pretty insurmountable lead, but use the example of a team with an unsurmountable lead in a game as being a case where of course they should be awarded the tie!?
Why not void the season and have interviews with Liverpool fans, pundits and players about how they feel about it to fill the broadcasts.