SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

Apologies if this question has already been asked, but with most of Europe confined to their house / home and facing fines or jail if they leave it, why do TV Channels keep showing the weather forecasts every hour or so.

Adisa said:
Think the Ebola experience is helping Nigeria. Everyone that has come in in contact with a confirmed case being bundled into isolation.
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We've just closed our office in Port Harcourt last night and sent everyone home as one of our Loaders there has symptoms although we have no way of knowing whether he has or hasn't been with someone who has subsequently tested positive. In a city like Port Harcourt, that's just impossible. But we're taking no chances.

Our Lagos and Luanda bases are working normally but we have very reduced volumes arriving, especially from Europe, and we're expecting these to drop even lower now that most European airlines have shut up shop until further notice.
 
Full bodied red said:
Apologies if this question has already been asked, but with most of Europe confined to their house / home and facing fines or jail if they leave it, why do TV Channels keep showing the weather forecasts every hour or so.
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Weather isn't cancelled just because everything else is.
 
The strategic and tactical part of me is finding the decisions and discussing of the timing of lockdowns fascinating.

The negatives of going into lockdown too early should not be underestimated. This crisis has shone a spotlight on just how dumb and selfish far too many human beings are. Lockdown is never going to be a "one and done" type deal and for every implementation you are going to lose (even further) the obedience and cooperation of a decent % of the public who will be of the mindset of "well it didn't work last time".
 
TMDaines said:
People forgetting that South Korea never locked down. A solution for one country is not simply the solution for the next.
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Actually, I'd say the solution for one country, South Korea, is the solution for every country. What has South Korea done?

They all wear masks, there are free masks on the bus if you don't have one, every store has hand sanitizer at the entrance and everyone uses it or wears gloves.

Once we smash the infection rate back down the whole world can get back to work as soon as we can provide masks and hand sanitizer for everyone in every country. Imho this is what each country needs to do like it's WWIII.

In reality, the rich countries will accomplish this first and I suspect they'll cut off travel from the developing world until a successful vaccine is in wide use everywhere. Rich countries will still import products from developing countries, of course, disinfected if you will by the slow boat ride.
 
Nogbadthebad said:
Even the Nisa round the corner from me has chequer tape marking out 6 foot boxes to stand in both inside and out.

I think at this point any of the big stores not doing this have no excuses.
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At my local row of shops, the chippy, newsagents, pet shop have it. It's the co-op at the end that doesn't.

They recently had a refurb to fit in an extra aisle by making all the other aisles narrower, so it's a total nightmare in there now.

The chippy are also limiting people going in and spacing the queue out outside. Co-op don't give a shit. Everyone's piling in.


I always thought co-op were one of the good chains, but they seem to be one of the few big stores that aren't setting up shopping times for key workers and vulnerable people, or adopting new opening hours to help their staff.
 
Beans said:
I'll admit I like a good conspiracy theory, but it's been pretty disappointing to see people so sure of themselves who have done so little research to reach that opinion.

Of course, the US has done itself no favors with its creeping fascism, that seems to be most people biggest concern, additional loss of liberty.
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Yeah I in no way believe the virus or the crisis is fake, but I definitely am keeping a close eye on what sort of measures/laws are brought in as a result. One thing I have learned about governments is they are as sly as they come, and if they can strike while the iron is hot, they will strike.
 
Alabaster Codify7 said:
Yeah I in no way believe the virus or the crisis is fake, but I definitely am keeping a close eye on what sort of measures/laws are brought in as a result. One thing I have learned about governments is they are as sly as they come, and if they can strike while the iron is hot, they will strike.
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The Liberal Canadian government tried to sneak in unchecked, unlimited power to act until the end of 2021 in their $82 billion support bill.

Thankfully the opposition parties called them on that and were able to ensure that there is some oversight of the government's activity.

I can only hope that the voters remember what sly cnuts they are going forward.
 
11101 said:
Perhaps we are discussing separate things here. I am talking about what is most useful in tracking the progress of the virus, you seem to be talking about assessing the impact on the country.
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I think impact on county and progress of virus are kind of the same thing but appreciate we’re splitting hairs! Both sets of data are obviously important.
 
Full bodied red said:
You mean they're telling us the forecast so that we'll know what we're going to see through our windows ??

Makes sense, I suppose....
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We're not confined to our houses.... I'm out at least an hour each day getting a bit of air and doing some shopping, as are most people..

Life hasn't stopped.
 
Full bodied red said:
Apologies if this question has already been asked, but with most of Europe confined to their house / home and facing fines or jail if they leave it, why do TV Channels keep showing the weather forecasts every hour or so.
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I need to know if it's alright to hang the washing out. It's a fecking ballache pegging everything to the line if rain is coming.
 
Dwazza Gunnar Solskjær said:
The Liberal Canadian government tried to sneak in unchecked, unlimited power to act until the end of 2021 in their $82 billion support bill.

Thankfully the opposition parties called them on that and were able to ensure that there is some oversight of the government's activity.

I can only hope that the voters remember what sly cnuts they are going forward.
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Governments across the world are ruthless and opportunistic; if they can manipulate this crisis in the background to benefit themselves, they will. That's not to say that they're not doing anything of good of course, they are.
 
Full bodied red said:
You mean they're telling us the forecast so that we'll know what we're going to see through our windows ??

Makes sense, I suppose....
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The weather forecast is vital for many essential trades and industries that haven't stopped working.

Farmers haven't stopped farming.

Fisherman haven't stopped fishing.

Many workers make decisions and plans based on the weather forecast, it's not just to tell people whether or not it's good leisure weather.
 
antsmithmk said:
That will come in time I think, either as a vaccine, and so infected with inactive virus, or the lockdown and social distancing will just stop being followed.
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That's already here. Took the baby and dog out this afternoon and was almost overtaken on the kerb by two jakey looking folk who were in a hurry as one was coughing their guts out. Started off about fifty paces behind me and gradually got closer. Eventually I just turned around and told them to feck off across the road because I didn't want her coming any closer to my kid or me.
 
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This is the dream scenario! But again, why so many negative tests if more of the population would have had the illness.

Even with a regard for testing not being accurate, why would such a high proportion of people that felt they needed testing, be negative?

Surely that doesn’t fit into this argument.
 
Ian Reus said:
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I don't think this is all that wrong. The government's advice isn't that clear. They said you can get about an hours exercise in provided that you practice distancing measures unless those people live with you. People seem to be more distanced here than they would at a local park or shop.

Did the government set any limits on how you could go from your house?
 
horsechoker said:
I don't think this is all that wrong. The government's advice isn't that clear. They said you can get about an hours exercise in provided that you practice distancing measures unless those people live with you. People seem to be more distanced here than they would at a local park or shop.

Did the government set any limits on how you could go from your house?
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They probably couldn't get the drone into the bushes where the dogging event was taking place.
 
horsechoker said:
I don't think this is all that wrong. The government's advice isn't that clear. They said you can get about an hours exercise in provided that you practice distancing measures unless those people live with you. People seem to be more distanced here than they would at a local park or shop.

Did the government set any limits on how you could go from your house?
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Damn right. If you can walk for hours away from other people then good for you. How do the rozzers know how far these people live from there. If it's twenty miles or so then that's fine. It's safer than a municipal park.
 
Alabaster Codify7 said:
Governments across the world are ruthless and opportunistic; if they can manipulate this crisis in the background to benefit themselves, they will. That's not to say that they're not doing anything of good of course, they are.
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We are fortunate that they have a minority government otherwise it would have passed.
 
Ventured out into the outside world this morning for the first time for a week to go supermarket shopping. Well stocked including toilet paper, only thing missing was fresh milk so got long life milk, people behaving well, keeping distances, no queues, no problems.
 
I'd also like to know why you can't buy giant feckoff tubs of peanut butter like you get in America? Crappy little servings here.
 
onemanarmy said:
Wow, the difference between some European countries is crazy. 15.9 ICU beds in Belgium (and capacity has been increased massively in the last 2 weeks), only 6.4 in the Netherlands. Does anyone have an explanation for that?
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ICU beds, wards and the equiptment they contain are expensive to maintain and aren’t a great investment in desiring people to live longer and healthier lives. It’s pretty much a given that your classic healthcare infrastructure is only a small proportion of the factors that decide an average individual’s overall health. Investment in prevention gives a far greater return etc.
 
Grinner said:
Damn right. If you can walk for hours away from other people then good for you. How do the rozzers know how far these people live from there. If it's twenty miles or so then that's fine. It's safer than a municipal park.
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Exactly, the footpaths/hills I trek in every evening/late afternoon have the odd dog-walker or jogger but if a policeman stopped me I could be on my 10th walk of the day for all he knows! I'm not, of course, but I'm just saying, it's impossible to police. They know they can't stop people going outside, its the pisstakers they are targeting - the gatherings, the groups and those who are clearly just outside socialising rather than getting their allocated fresh-air.
 
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