Wait until he gets re-elected
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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Wait until he gets re-elected
Wow!
I wonder if a mass amount of people could ever start standing up to big businesses that don't pay their taxes and cheat the system (and by that I mean a truly massive amount of people and not just a minority). I'm one to talk; I use Amazon and have an iPhone etc. so i'm well aware of my own hypocrisy, but it does sicken me when I hear about this guy and Mike Ashley and these types of people.
I think a) a vaccine is likely to be at least a year away, b) pubs and other businesses aren't going to remain closed for an indefinite amount of time that could also last quite a bit longer than a year and c) at whatever point measures start being lifted pre-vaccine there will still be a lot of people yet to be infected, assuming people can't also be re-infected.
In that sense I'm not sure what "out of the woods" means in this context. Obviously we have to get past this oncoming peak but the problem doesn't go away after that, nor will the world stop until it does. Which means we face some difficult planning in terms of eventually easing current measures.
France take the death numbers past 30k.
New measures are gradually introduced, with the latest being no travel allowed between cities without permission. All private hospitals were made public to cope with any surge in cases, although it doesn't look to have materialized.
Nothing much to report, really. Enough new cases but the death toll isn't anything drastic.
14 dead in Ireland today 
Look at Shakespeare being able to afford a house in an affluent and liked minded community.
FFS can people please remember to include where they are posting from when saying stuff like this? It would be really helpful.
Sorry to single you out.
14 dead in Ireland today
14 dead in Ireland today
Good news is that daily increases in coronavirus cases still seems to be okayish: March 23: 24% March 24: 18% March 25: 18% March 26: 16% March 27: 17% March 28: 14%.
Problem is the ICU cases are jumping more sharply: 39 -> 47 -> 59 -> 67 -> 70+. Given limited capacity in this regard, that seems to have been what's primarily driven yesterday's measures and is more worrying in terms of future deaths.
Come to the UK then feck off once we're done with you
https://www.theguardian.com/environ...es-to-fly-in-farm-workers-from-eastern-europe
https://www.theguardian.com/environ...es-to-fly-in-farm-workers-from-eastern-europe
UK Dates | UK Deaths | Italy Dates | Italy Deaths | Spain Dates | Spain Deaths | France Dates | France Deaths |
March 8th | 3 | Feb 23rd | 3 | March 5th | 3 | March 2nd | 3 |
March 9th | 5 | Feb 24th | 7 | March 6th | 8 | March 3rd | 4 |
March 10th | 6 | Feb 25th | 11 | March 7th | 10 | March 4th | 4 |
March 11th | 8 | Feb 26th | 12 | March 8th | 17 | March 5th | 7 |
March 12th | 10 | Feb 27th | 17 | March 9th | 30 | March 6th | 9 |
March 13th | 11 | Feb 28th | 21 | March 10th | 36 | March 7th | 16 |
March 14th | 21 | Feb 29th | 29 | March 11th | 55 | March 8th | 19 |
March 15th | 35 | March 1st | 41 | March 12th | 86 | March 9th | 30 |
March 16th | 55 | March 2nd | 52 | March 13th | 133 | March 10th | 33 |
March 17th | 71 | March 3rd | 79 | March 14th | 196 | March 11th | 48 |
March 18th | 104 | March 4th | 107 | March 15th | 294 | March 12th | 61 |
March 19th | 144 | March 5th | 148 | March 16th | 342 | March 13th | 79 |
March 20th | 177 | March 6th | 197 | March 17th | 533 | March 14th | 91 |
March 21st | 233 | March 7th | 233 | March 18th | 638 | March 15th | 127 |
March 22nd | 281 | March 8th | 366 | March 19th | 833 | March 16th | 148 |
March 23rd | 335 | March 9th | 463 | March 20th | 1,093 | March 17th | 175 |
March 24th | 422 | March 10th | 631 | March 21st | 1,381 | March 18th | 244 |
March 25th | 468 | March 11th | 827 | March 22nd | 1,813 | March 19th | 372 |
March 26th | 578 | March 12th | 1,016 | March 23rd | 2,207 | March 20th | 450 |
March 27th | 759 | March 13th | 1,266 | March 24th | 2,696 | March 21st | 562 |
March 28th | 1,019 | March 14th | 1,441 | March 25th | 3,434 | March 22nd | 674 |
| | March 15th | 1,809 | March 26th | 4,145 | March 23rd | 860 |
| | March 16th | 2,158 | March 27th | 4,858 | March 24th | 1100 |
| | March 17th | 2,503 | March 28th | 5,690 | March 25th | 1331 |
| | March 18th | 2,978 | | | March 26th | 1,696 |
| | March 19th | 3,405 | | | March 27th | 1,995 |
| | March 20th | 4,032 | | | March 28th | 2,314 |
Whither be affluent and like-minded? Alas, I am not.
This practice run for brexit is going pretty terribly so far
Ah yes, all these jobs the Europeans were taking from British people .....
Whethering Heights.
Hmmm, not sure about this. South Korea are the poster children for extreme testing, is their health system that underdeveloped compared to the UK?
Should be quite a few brits unemployed, maybe they can pick the fruit and veg? Not sure I'd want to endanger eastern Europeans.
Could somebody explain who they are testing in the UK at the moment? Less than 20 % who have been tested actually have it, yet testing must be been restricted to those most at need, and likely to have it.
Ain't we all?Whethering Heights.
Irelands main death source seems to be from care homes, which in being absolutely horrible, gives us a chance with this lockdown
In Italy, the government is giving 4.3 billion euros to the Comunes (there are over 7,000 of them, some tiny hamlets, some massive like Rome). There will also be 400 million euros for the Civil Protection, to be used exclusively to provide shopping vouchers and food supplies to people who have lost their income.
So the number of deaths in the UK has gone up by 43% over the last 2 days. That's both depressing and frightening.
What I mean is that the pubs aren't going to be opened if we are still in a situation where the health service would be overwhelmed by the remaining people in the country being infected.
They'll be one of the last to open. It would have to be closely managed but they could relax the restrictions in less populated areas first say.
If it takes a year then yes I think the pubs will stay closed for that long. The govt's priority is to save as many lives as possible and ensure the health services can cope. I don't think they'll just drop the restrictions if it means all hell will break lose as far as the health services are concerned regardless of how long it takes.
Rich people mainly.
I know you're taking a swipe, but Is there some truth in this? Ie are all the pro sport players that will have been tested be included in the stats, all the ones who pay Harley street type clinics be included? I might be naive, but I just find the positive numbers low when the 'average Joe' test must be been restricted to those most likely to have it.
Will, possibly.
Just had three ambulances up my street in Andalucia. And posts deleted by a 'scout'. Super.
France take the death numbers past 30k.
Wtf is going on with just three people recovered in Netherlands? Especially compared to Belgium who have similar number of confirmed cases.
I think she’s being quoted out of context. When I watched yesterday, she was responding to an implication that all of the WHO’s comments are directed specifically at the UK. The point she was making is that their guidance is very general and cannot possibly be tailored to the current situation in every country.
I wasn't being.
You're in SA yeah? Joburg as well? Be safe man. Remember confirmed does not equate to infected.
Ive absolutely no problem whatsoever with foreign workers and welcome them if we need them, however you’ve got to ask how we can’t fill 90k jobs at a time when businesses are shutting left right and centre.
It wouldn’t work like that with antibody testing - your body develops antibodies 7-10 days at best after contracting most common viruses, so it would effectively be testing if you’re immune or not.
Testing positive would basically mean you’re unlikely to contract the illness, since you’ve already had it. Testing negative (whilst asymptomatic), would just mean you’ve not caught it yet.
Testing negative (whilst symptomatic) would likely warrant another test, as you might just have not developed the antibodies yet.
Once again, this is all assuming we develop a high sensitivity and specificity test.
You've drawn the short straw getting this thread Grinner, I hope you money's gone up.
A lot of people wouldn't want to pick fruit, because it's minimum wage (if you're lucky) and hard outside work. Things may change.
We are only testing possible cases who are being admitted to hospital.
If I think a patient could manage at home, we’re not swabbing them, even if it’s a barn-door clinical diagnosis. This seems to solely be because we don’t have the facilities to run a large amount of tests, and would result in further delays in confirming admitted patients.