I saw a bellend family friend doing similar on instagram. 10 mins later I tried to show someone and noticed the person had deleted their story. Absolute idiots.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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I saw a bellend family friend doing similar on instagram. 10 mins later I tried to show someone and noticed the person had deleted their story. Absolute idiots.
The public can’t influence things like PPE, the amount of testing being done, airports being open without screening, not shutting down sporting events quick enough. Blaming the public is a weird angle to take. There’s always going to be people that don’t listen, but in no way is that as serious as the issues I mentioned.
Are you fking serious? Our PM boasted on live TV about shaking the hands of infected people!
Where was the leadership? The responsibility once deemed essential for a position such as his? He spent the first weeks talking about flu. His stupidity landed him in hospital and there can be no doubt at all, also contributed to the blase attitude of too many people. Mixed messages, bad planning and politicking from the top have caused many unnecessary deaths.
Today was bad even for Patel. Disgusting stuff from the tories again and again.
The local ice cream van has just turned up outside my house!
Imagine you're neighbours and don't even know it.
I heard first hand from a few reliable people that parts of cork had English reg cars and caravans everywhere and Donegal was the same. Surely if we want to be serious we stop that non essential travel?
the vaccine will be for people who are older or have weakened immune systems, it's probably going to take a while before we can even think about the global rollout that would be needed for your average serb to get it
You can find studies for everything, I'd take them with a pinch of salt.
What they meant by studies is probably a small and untested observations on a very limited samples.
Tata Steel saying they need £500 Million support from the government due to losing orders because of coronavirus. That's a lot of pennies for one business but it's also 8,000 employees.
I am aware of that, this was not my point.
Wasn't they on the verge of collapse beforehand ?
Screwfix have been open all through this. Click and Collect only. Orderly spaced queuing strictly enforced. They've been brilliant. Well, the Royton one anyway.
Yeah well that's one of the main factors being conveniently ignored at the moment...the main way this will be spreading now is via hospitals and people needing treatment. It's not only one of the main places where social distancing doesn't apply but it's the one place where you can guarantee the virus always is...so at this point the lack of PPE is actually quite fundamental to the whole problem. I'd be willing to guess it's one of the main factors in why the numbers haven't declined as much as they should have yet. It's the most logical and scientific explanation available.
Basically one or more person in the government is responsible for a LOT of people dying who didn't need to. We've heard from various people now that PPE and testing equipment was offered to the government at various different stages. THere are Universities who've even been offering to make it for free, and the government just hasn't bothered pulling it's finger out. So it makes me really angry to see some moron MP blaming literally the entire country, when literally everyone one of us either through choice or not has made huge lifestyle changes and sacrifices. The irony is that even if people aren't listening, it's because they don't trust the government enough to listen to them
This sort of thing annoys me too. Why are the police patrolling acres of empty forest land? Even if they find some random wandering about, what harm are they doing? They're wandering about in the middle of nowhere which means one less person wandering about in a built up area where it's harder to avoid each other. Surely they should be concentrating purely on areas where there can actually be a build up of people? Yet I've seen no sign of them on my runs or when getting shopping. I genuinely don't get how people's brains work.
I find him honest. Grim forecast though.
B & Q here have operated that way I think. Order online as Click and Collect, except the things are brought out to your car.
I like him. He has been pretty spot on on many things, without sugarcoating stuff.
- He has been warning for a pandemic for a long time, also specifically what i would look like if it started in China, and he nailed it pretty much.
- He has been warning about outsourcing medical supplies to china.
- He warned about worldwide shortage of IV bags due to 85%of the saline was made in a town in Puerto Rico. It happened.
- He said early on 800,000 deaths in the US with mitigations, and one month has given 50k deaths, there are 12-18 months left.
I have not seen him make a fool out of himself and he has been trying to wake up the world for many years now.
Maybe he is an attention seeker, with good reason though, but for me he is a guy that is credible and trustworthy, and is very good at explaining the science to us mere humans
The state of those youtube comments...
Here's New York State vs the rest (cases and then deaths)
Don't think it can do US minus NY.
B&Q have actually opened in-store now as of yesterday.
Right. Didn't know that. Thanks.
What is a wave? Find the definition confusing. There’s already loads of people saying it’s not going to abate during summer, otherwise we wouldn’t even have the disease spread in countries like India. So there’ll be just one extended continuous death toll. What am I not understanding?
Sorry jojojo meant to say aswell that I'm sorry to hear about your friends and family. I don't know anyone who's died from it yet but do know one or two who've been quite seriously ill and luckily recovered.
Looks like it has gone crazy.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/crowds-flock-bq-reopen-coronavirus-pandemic-a4424066.html
Can't say I'm champing at the bit to spend my Sunday there!
Same here. Not going near.
I like him. He has been pretty spot on on many things, without sugarcoating stuff.
- He has been warning for a pandemic for a long time, also specifically what i would look like if it started in China, and he nailed it pretty much.
- He has been warning about outsourcing medical supplies to china.
- He warned about worldwide shortage of IV bags due to 85%of the saline was made in a town in Puerto Rico. It happened.
- He said early on 800,000 deaths in the US with mitigations, and one month has given 50k deaths, there are 12-18 months left.
I have not seen him make a fool out of himself and he has been trying to wake up the world for many years now.
Maybe he is an attention seeker, with good reason though, but for me he is a guy that is credible and trustworthy, and is very good at explaining the science to us mere humans
Yea totally agree. He has been honest and spot on with his predictions.
I like him. He has been pretty spot on on many things, without sugarcoating stuff.
- He has been warning for a pandemic for a long time, also specifically what i would look like if it started in China, and he nailed it pretty much.
- He has been warning about outsourcing medical supplies to china.
- He warned about worldwide shortage of IV bags due to 85%of the saline was made in a town in Puerto Rico. It happened.
- He said early on 800,000 deaths in the US with mitigations, and one month has given 50k deaths, there are 12-18 months left.
I have not seen him make a fool out of himself and he has been trying to wake up the world for many years now.
Maybe he is an attention seeker, with good reason though, but for me he is a guy that is credible and trustworthy, and is very good at explaining the science to us mere humans
Interestingly enough he put the death rate at between 0.5 and 1% when calculating the 800,000 deaths. It seems like a low number but a small number of a large number is a large number.
I dunno man. There are Uk reg cars and caravans in Cork and Donegal permamently. The whole thing felt a bit hysterical.
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There will be a continuous death toll but with the lockdown you will get the amount of daily deaths and new cases down. At some point you loosen the restrictions and likely get a "second wave" which really just means another great increase of new daily cases and thus daily deaths. So in between the waves the virus is never actually gone and people still die but at a far slower rate.
When everyone says Vaccine I hope you all understand that it will be a nano microchip.
Chinese company Jingye brought British Steel in March for £70m and had agreed to invest £1.2bn to revive the business, whose £1m-a-day losses have been supported by a government indemnity since last May.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/mar/02/sale-british-steel-chinese-firm-jingye-finalised
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...over-jingye-promises-new-chapter-for-industry
You may be right to an extent but my cousin was one of the ones I heard from in Donegal and she was raging that there was suddenly an influx
We're waiting in Italy for the Government to make an announcement about the details of Phase 2 of the lockdown, which was expected this week (although there are of course competing interests, so no doubt there's a balancing act being considered). It looks like there will be some loosening for some industries as early as next week (the manufacturers of agricultural/forestry equipment), but it's the 4th May that will really be the start date.
Papers predict that the textile and fashion industries and construction sites will be allowed to reopen first, followed by clothing and other shops a week later, then restaurants, bars and hairdressers last of all - but all of this with strict social distancing still in place. No-one's sure of the dates yet, but the figures continue to go in the right direction so it looks hopeful.
Of course, most people are probably more interested in when they'll be able to go out of their homes freely and leave their own municipality, and whether the paperwork we have to carry now will still be required. I suspect there won't be any rapid lifting of those restrictions, but at least businesses will be able to get back to work.
(Details from thelocal.it, although widely-discussed in the Italian media, of course).
Papers predict that the textile and fashion industries and construction sites will be allowed to reopen first, followed by clothing and other shops a week later, then restaurants, bars and hairdressers last of all - but all of this with strict social distancing still in place. No-one's sure of the dates yet, but the figures continue to go in the right direction so it looks hopeful.
Of course, most people are probably more interested in when they'll be able to go out of their homes freely and leave their own municipality, and whether the paperwork we have to carry now will still be required. I suspect there won't be any rapid lifting of those restrictions, but at least businesses will be able to get back to work.
(Details from thelocal.it, although widely-discussed in the Italian media, of course).
First it was hydroxychloroquine, then remdesivir, then nicotine (in france). Now it is:
https://www.foxnews.com/media/dr-jacob-glanville-antibody-neutralize-coronavirus
Says he hopes to begin trials in September.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/dr-jacob-glanville-antibody-neutralize-coronavirus
Says he hopes to begin trials in September.
Poor feckers. Dealing with the sort of obnoxious cnuts who verbally abuse service staff would be bad enough in normal times, let alone now.
Those 'hidden defects' like cardiomyopathies etc generally tend to prevent people from reaching the absolute elite in any physically demanding sport. A colleague of mine has written a dissertation on sudden cardiac death and thinks that routine heart ultrasounds among elite athletes are somewhat off the mark, since most deaths are from myocarditis. Presumably, this guy would've been healthy if he reached the absolute top of the game, apart from non-debilitating asthma or something like that.
With the level of medical control these players are under, what's the most likely scenario? That he had some uncovered medical condition that made him vulnerable, despite playing at an elite level, or that a healthy person died from the virus? I'd guess that it's the latter. We've had a bunch of healthy people in their sixties die, so one young healthy individual dying doesn't seem so unrealistic that you'd immediately have to jump to the 'hidden condition' conclusion.
That isn't actually a bad thing. Because whatever the treatment/drug/vaccine is will take a long time to validate, so the last thing you want is to put your eggs in only a few baskets and for them to all fall apart at one stage or another.
Throwing as much shit at the wall as you can (obviously qualified scientists doing it - rather than idiots like trump with their stupid suggestions), and hoping one of them sticks is the way to go with this.
Just finished watching Contagion. Very scarily accurate.
So far I don't think there has ever been a virus that our immune system didn't respond to. There are odd edge cases e.g. HIV which attacks the immune system and Dengue fever, where a second infection sometimes occurs and is then worse than the first infection. In the later case this is not because there is a lack of immune response. It is because sometimes, much later, when a person's immunity has begin to reduce the antibodies aren't enough to defeat the virus in a second infection but do bind to it enough to help spread it. This is the only virus that we have seen this for and there is now a vaccine that will make this irrelevant anyway.
What WHO is warning against most recently is issuing certificates to people who have had COIVD as if they are immune for life before we know what the immune response actually is. A very responsible and appropriate course of action IMO.