Dave Smith
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Anyone got a link to this but with the Coronavirus instead of Crystanbul?
If it were to hit in October then I don't think anyone would have an issue with the null and void scenario given such a small percentage of the season would've been completed compared to such a large percentage this season.
Can you blame them though? They're protecting their own interests, I don't see anything wrong with that. Belgian festivals knew for multiple weeks that they weren't going ahead this summer yet had to wait for the official government announcement before they could cancel for insurance reasons - their official statements were online only hours after the government decision. You aren't going to shoot yourself in the foot even more by taken a hasty decision on this matters.
Wouldn't surprise me if the PL is already hoping that the UK government would impose a ban on football until the end of August. That way they at least have some certainty and something to work with going forward. You can only kick the can down the road for so long.
This is a point which is being overlooked in any discussion about awarding titles, promotion & relegation.
Any decision made upon the completion of the season is going to set a precedent that will be used in the future, because while we have no way of controlling this virus - it's likely that we'll be hit with a second wave in the winter.
Do we then cancel the season and award champions, promotions & relegated teams based on 40% of games being played? No.
Do we suddenly make a completely different decision on how to end it, even though we're curtailing the season for the same reason as before? Also no.
Simply ending the season as is, is the best decision.
European places are the only unknown at that point, but that's because there's a hope that there will be European football next season, I think the penny will drop on that in the coming weeks too.
Even if it is null and voided at this point, it doesn't eradicate the issue. What if Covid-19 is still a problem in August, September, October. What if it goes away then comes back mid way through another season? Do we null and void again?
Does make you wonder if we'll see Premier League football again in 2020. We probably will but it'll be completely different to any other season.
Anyone got a link to this but with the Coronavirus instead of Crystanbul?
Could work out if there's a downward trend. I mean eventually the economy of everywhere needs to start up again.It's just probabilities I guess. Perhaps they see it as lower probability to have a problem later down the line compared to today.
If anyone asks I liked this post in error, honest.They must also be taking into account the mass fan celebrations that will occur as soon as the title is awarded. Voiding the season eradicates this.
Would that inevitably lead to mass protests?
Probably.
In conclusion, Liverpool fans are idiots.
Here is the real rub, say we halt the league and give Liverpool the title. Next season we start up and close down by December with half the games played and United are top by one point. Are you ok with us being awarded the league, what if its 17 games, or 10? What would the cutoff need to be? Thats why they will not announce the league won this way imo, and it will be done as a vote if anything.Even if it is null and voided at this point, it doesn't eradicate the issue. What if Covid-19 is still a problem in August, September, October. What if it goes away then comes back mid way through another season? Do we null and void again?
Does make you wonder if we'll see Premier League football again in 2020. We probably will but it'll be completely different to any other season.
Why should the cup competitions be shelved!?In that case then couldn't they complete this season in September/October & shelve the cup competitions to ensure there's no fixture congestion ?
Strange for a PM to be involved in sporting decisions of other countries.![]()
Strange for a PM to be involved in sporting decisions of other countries.![]()
I don't think we should be awarded it if it's halted where it's at now. It's not mathematically done so wouldn't be an actual title 'win'.Here is the real rub, say we halt the league and give Liverpool the title. Next season we start up and close down by December with half the games played and United are top by one point. Are you ok with us being awarded the league, what if its 17 games, or 10? What would the cutoff need to be? Thats why they will not announce the league won this way imo, and it will be done as a vote if anything.
The rate has gone back up to 1 with the lifting of restrictions.Important day for German football tomorrow when the Chancellor meets with the Minister Presidents of the 16 states to discuss the proposed restart of Bundesliga 1 and 2. The Ministry of Labour as well as the Ministers for Sport of all federal states have already approved the league's plan to continue in May. Also tomorrow, comprehensive testing of all players in the two top divisions will begin. More than 400,000 available Corona tests went unused in German labs last week which helps the league's case as only 22,500 are needed for players and staff on each matchday. They will also have been boosted by the news that the virus reproduction rate has fallen to 0.75. Controversy remains around how to proceed in case a player tests positive.
Why should the cup competitions be shelved!?
They will also have been boosted by the news that the virus reproduction rate has fallen to 0.75.
Important day for German football tomorrow when the Chancellor meets with the Minister Presidents of the 16 states to discuss the proposed restart of Bundesliga 1 and 2. The Ministry of Labour as well as the Ministers for Sport of all federal states have already approved the league's plan to continue in May. Also tomorrow, comprehensive testing of all players in the two top divisions will begin. More than 400,000 available Corona tests went unused in German labs last week which helps the league's case as only 22,500 are needed for players and staff on each matchday. They will also have been boosted by the news that the virus reproduction rate has fallen to 0.75. Controversy remains around how to proceed in case a player tests positive.
Rates gone back up. That's old news. Today they are considered tightening the lock down again.
On Tuesday, the German government’s disease control agency, the Robert Koch Institute (RKI), announced the reproduction number for Monday 27 April had risen to 1, after having put it as low as 0.7 in mid-April.I don't know where you got this from but a tightening of the lock down is not being discussed. Quite the opposite. And the reproduction rate is 0.75 as of tonight.
Playing football and social distancing doesn’t really go together.
And where do we stop? Will transport communication be ok? Schools? Clubs? Bars? Stores?
Football players are no different to other people in terms of rules. Should The FA or politicians try to start something then regular people will ask why should we be treated differently to players? Soon they would need to open up society. Are England ready for that? In my opinion, No.
My prediction is that we won't have any football any time soon . Maybe 4-6 months from now but doubt anything happens before that
On Tuesday, the German government’s disease control agency, the Robert Koch Institute (RKI), announced the reproduction number for Monday 27 April had risen to 1, after having put it as low as 0.7 in mid-April.
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...nfections-grows-after-lockdown-eased-11980194I don't know where you got this from but a tightening of the lock down is not being discussed. Quite the opposite. And the reproduction rate is 0.75 as of tonight.
Well, lets hope that it will come back but looking at numbers I don’t know if we can expect that without risking lifes. Without risking new wave of infections.Most of those above will be coming back in June anyway (not saying football should btw).
Ultimately it's how you adapt. More carriages on trains, more work from home, more staggered start times if you have to go into the office or workplace every day still will help ease the load on public transport at peak times so social distancing can be given a chance to work.
Contary to popular belief not every single bar or restuarant in a town/city centre is rammed to capacity for 12 hours a day. Many times I've gone into a pub in Birmingham/Nottingham at lunchtime and been in a seating area of about sixty with only 5-6 other people in the pub (2-3pm). I was in a pub in Nottingham that was actually doing table service 12 months ago for some reason so that will have to be commonplace next 12 months for those that can do it.
So again going to have to be different times and also a change of culture/restrictions around binge drinking and bar hopping on Wednesday, Friday and Saturday evenings which are the main congested nights in bars.
Schools with reduced class sizes probably back sometime in June just to give some structure back although the report yesterday of young children getting ill of course needs to be monitored.
Only things football can really do is BCD and isolate/test the players but of course that can only happen when it's safe and also socially acceptable to do so. That point could well be when it's past a practical point to restart the season and all other euro leagues have already voided and planning for 20/21.
Links?And this is old news. They've corrected it to 0.75.
I was hoping for a better title, you know, something more along the lines of "League resumed".Sorted
I was hoping for a better title, you know, something more along the lines of "League resumed".
https://www.espn.com/soccer/english...ourse-with-players-over-restart-plans-sources
Can't really blame the players, health risk isn't worth it for them.
I suspected that was the thinking! Let's scrap the league to allow the cups to be completed!because Liverpool aren’t in the FA Cup.![]()
Well, it shouldn't be up to the players. It should be up to experts on the subject. I guess they are also looking on losing their vacations ..
It seems you are correct. It did rise to 1 but has since dropped back to 0.75.And this is old news. They've corrected it to 0.75.