Protests following the killing of George Floyd

Abizzz said:
I don't think it gets 'solved'. The best solutions would be for communities to develop their own police forces to protect themselves from the government hooligans, but they won't ever allow that to happen.
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So same again when the next man gets lynched? Same rinse repeat as gun violence?
 
Just when you think it can’t get worse: Reminds me of British beating up the non violent Ghandi.

Forces have been instructed to bring this to a close through brutal force.

China global reputation still suffers for Tianamen Sqaure over 20 years later. And not much VDO evidence of that night of brutality exists.

Surely it’s cant just be back to Normal after all this?


 
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sammsky1 said:
Just when you think it can’t get worse

Reminds me of British beating up the non violent Ghandi.

Forces have been instructed to bring this to a close through brutal force.

China global reputation still suffers for Tianamen Sqaure over 20 years later. And not much VDO evidence of that night of brutality exists.

Surely it’s cant just be back to Normal after all this?


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It’s been worse here before, but the current fresh hell is being almost broadcast in real time to virtually everyone. We are in somewhat uncharted territory.
 
In Durham, there was two protests today with hundreds, if not over 1000 people, this afternoon and a later one tonight downtown. The protests were entirely peaceful, and the organizers emphasized that they weren't going to damage their own city. The primary involvement of the police and sheriff's office was to block traffic and give the protesters space to move and be heard. The organizers, protesters, and police all did an admirable job in managing the events.

It won't get the attention of cities where more damage and violence have occurred, but it's how both police and protesters should operate. Cops don't need to instigate confrontations with protesters who are peacefully marching or demonstrating just to assert control. Or driving huge armored vehicles around just as a show of force.
 
calodo2003 said:
It’s been worse here before, but the current fresh hell is being almost broadcast in real time to virtually everyone. We are in somewhat uncharted territory.
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When has it been worse before? Surely not all over the country and with so many vicious police transgressions?

I vaguely remember Rodney king riots but don’t remember those being so nationwide nor brutal.
 
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roseguy64 said:


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What an absolute shithole, Fayetteville.

There are hundreds of thousands on the right tonight pearl clutching over the burning down of a slave auction house, a lovely bauble left over from the Confederacy. Can’t wait to see how this is spun by the right.
 
sammsky1 said:
Yeah. Am in Uk but feel like am living this live with all in US! Am sure 100s millions like me all over.

When has it been worse before? Surely not all over the country and with so many vicious police transgressions?

I vaguely remember Rodney king riots but don’t remember those being so nationwide nor brutal.
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The 60s. The 60s were a shitshow. Riots everywhere after MLK was assassinated. Detroit is in its current situation partially because of riots in 1967 and 1968. Lots of cities in the Northeast and Midwest took years or decades to recover with businesses and (mostly white but anyone who could afford it) people leaving the areas.
 
This very smart young lady nailed it. Really worth listening to her to acquire some empathy

 
sammsky1 said:
When has it been worse before? Surely not all over the country and with so many vicious police transgressions?

I vaguely remember Rodney king riots but don’t remember those being so nationwide nor brutal.
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1992 was bad, especially out west, but there were protests / riots all over the country. There were fatalities within hours of the verdict. It was basically over after four days. So, we aren’t there yet numerically in some statistics, but the current shit seems to still be escalating after five days.

The riots in the 1960s were far & away more deadly & destructive.
 
Abizzz said:
Yes, she is great. Can go back about 20mins on the stream I posted earlier to see it in full view/length.
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That’s where I saw it! But thought it was live so looked for it to share! Thanks for sharing
 
sammsky1 said:
That’s where I saw it! But thought it was live so looked for it to share! Thanks for sharing
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You welcome. I'll try to tag the time once the live stream ends for others. She really had a powerful message.
 
sammsky1 said:
Ah! Of course. . Before I was born but have of course seen movies and read about it.

Worse than this? Wow! Then again we still don’t know when this ends.
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Some inner cities are still feeling the adverse effects of the 1960s riots. Like @Sir Matt said, they were culturally transformational on many levels.
 
calodo2003 said:
Some inner cities are still feeling the adverse effects of the 1960s riots. Like @Sir Matt said, they were culturally transformational on many levels.
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Those 60s cops literally got away with murder during those riots!

Unlike the 60’s or 90’s, the crazy volume of VDO evidence means it will take lawyers and courts forever and a lot of $ to sift through the huge volume of crimes committed by police and civilians.

How long did it take for America to sort itself out in 60s after such an emotional trauma.

This time last week, it was just covid19. I can’t imagine what happens next.
 
Sir Matt said:
In Durham, there was two protests today with hundreds, if not over 1000 people, this afternoon and a later one tonight downtown. The protests were entirely peaceful, and the organizers emphasized that they weren't going to damage their own city. The primary involvement of the police and sheriff's office was to block traffic and give the protesters space to move and be heard. The organizers, protesters, and police all did an admirable job in managing the events.

It won't get the attention of cities where more damage and violence have occurred, but it's how both police and protesters should operate. Cops don't need to instigate confrontations with protesters who are peacefully marching or demonstrating just to assert control. Or driving huge armored vehicles around just as a show of force.
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Well said mate. Similarly, I don’t know how wise it is on the part of the protesters to hurl projectiles at cops/cop cars. I acknowledge the anger but yes, as you say, it’s a shame it has descended into violence. Hopefully some sort of meaningful change comes from all of these protests - not sure how optimistic I am, though.
 


he supposedly died from his injuries. video clip only showed half the story though. Allegedly had a sword and was threatening to use it on looters of his store or something. Anyone in the dallas area confirm this? Be safe all, shit ain’t worth your life.
 
choiboyx012 said:


he supposedly died from his injuries. video clip only showed half the story though. Allegedly had a sword and was threatening to use it on looters of his store or something. Anyone in the dallas area confirm this? Be safe all, shit ain’t worth your life.
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He was running at people with a giant sword, there are pictures and videos of it on Twitter.
 
choiboyx012 said:


he supposedly died from his injuries. video clip only showed half the story though. Allegedly had a sword and was threatening to use it on looters of his store or something. Anyone in the dallas area confirm this? Be safe all, shit ain’t worth your life.
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All that attacked him should be jailed for a long time!
 
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