SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

Masks now mandatory on public transport from the 15th in England.

That is incorrect.

Facial coverings have been made compulsory. Facial coverings consist of anything to cover the face, which includes masks but also includes things like scarves, bandanas etc.
 
I know, right? I think people also forget that proper flu is horrendous too. It’s much rarer than you’d think to catch influenza. Bad colds are often called flu but the real thing can feck you over for months. So covid must be a whole other level.

I got it in 2009 with added pneumonia - should have been hospitalised but hung off as I worked for myself. It was not at all good.
 
What's going on in Brazil?
930k tests. 606k positive. 33.5k deaths..

the worst hit country at the moment.. and those are some really weird test/positive numbers.
 
Timeline of blundering incompetence

https://appeasement.org/

Interesting to see a detailed timeline. It looks like the faffing around in the week leading up to March 20th really sealed the UK’s fate. Shocking to think how many lives were lost due to the indecision and time-wasting. They’re ploughing towards the exact same foolhardy brinkmanship with Brexit too.

Turns out that what worked for BoJo in blagging his way through university and his career to date won’t cut it when you’re dealing with complex issues of national importance. Who knew?
 
What's going on in Brazil?
930k tests. 606k positive. 33.5k deaths..

the worst hit country at the moment.. and those are some really weird test/positive numbers.

Low levels of testing so mainly done on already sick people.
 
What's going on in Brazil?
930k tests. 606k positive. 33.5k deaths..

the worst hit country at the moment.. and those are some really weird test/positive numbers.

The president is even worse than Trump (in many ways). Not only don't want to enforce lockdown but goes against the decisions of the state governors that try to enforce as much as they are in their power. He encourages people to go out and continue with their life like is just a flu

That translates on no federal effort on testing or anything that can help contain the virus

Many more will die. In the last 24 hours brazil had 1349 deaths. At this rate, and not enforcing lock down, will surpass the US on maximum daily deaths record easily as they are doing nothing to stop it.

Mexico surpassed the 1000 daily deaths also today, but they are more concerned and trying to stop the spread
 
India and Brazil both still testing at around 3000 people per million of population. Incredible really. The scale of the hidden outbreaks will be colossal.
 
@Dumbstar this sadly reminded me of you, how's your wife and daughter getting on, any signs of improvement ?
Edit..I could be thinking of @Klopper76 sorry for the confusion.

Racist!! :mad::p

They're getting better thanks. The wife is further ahead in recovery, the daughter's chest pain has subsided but it's moved to other symptoms like dizziness, headaches, etc. This article is spot on and it's useful for people who are learning about the long-haulers (as the victims are calling themselves in social media circles) for the first time.
 
Racist!! :mad::p

They're getting better thanks. The wife is further ahead in recovery, the daughter's chest pain has subsided but it's moved to other symptoms like dizziness, headaches, etc. This article is spot on and it's useful for people who are learning about the long-haulers (as the victims are calling themselves in social media circles) for the first time.

:lol:, good to hear they are on the mend.
 
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They were saying that because they were struggling to source enough for key workers and knew if the entire country started using them the front line staff would likely go short.

So yes, they gave bad advice to the entire country and likely kept the infection rate higher than it needed to be because of their absolute logistical shit show. .

Not really.
The requirement now is for a face covering. Not a face mask.

But you are right. The government advice has been close to dangerous and there is little doubt that their mishandling of this pandemic has been catastrophic.
 
Thankfully I’ve not followed UK Governments advice at all on covid19 and was always more interested in what scientists from Korea, China and Singapore had to say.

You are right to take a broader view.
Sadly, the majority have not and that is why the death rate in the UK is significantly higher than it should have been.
 
India and Brazil both still testing at around 3000 people per million of population. Incredible really. The scale of the hidden outbreaks will be colossal.
Really hope our situation doesn't escalate further. We've rapidly gone from 3-5K cases per day to nealy 10K cases per day now. My biggest fear, as you say, is that our testing has been far too low, and my only hope is that the lack of frequent travelors here is lower than the West, and that I read somewhere that the strain of the virus that's come here is weaker than others (could be wrong here).
 
Just call 111, they can dispatch tests from there on the phone.

I did. They said they couldn’t send any test without an address verification.

I’ll try again today with a different operator to see if there’s any difference.
 
What's going on in Brazil?
930k tests. 606k positive. 33.5k deaths..

the worst hit country at the moment.. and those are some really weird test/positive numbers.

Since we don't have a lot of informations about Brazil, Guyane could be a loose example. Currently it's the only french territory with a R0 above 1 and it's at 2.95. Imports from Brazil are deemed responsible in many cases.
 
That is incorrect.

Facial coverings have been made compulsory. Facial coverings consist of anything to cover the face, which includes masks but also includes things like scarves, bandanas etc.

England hasn’t made anything compulsory. Which is half the problem. Less than 20% will wear a face covering.
 
R level in U.K still between 0.7-0.9. Interesting considering all the mass gatherings on beaches and City centres in last week unless there's a lag on that figure aswell?

It was about 3 in March wasn't it so shows how much difference it can make if you take out attendances at sports games and gigs.
 
Roadmap being accelerated in Ireland. There will now be four phases instead of five.
 
Please tell me whose guidance I broke on that occasion? I’ll be waiting. Thanks

Of course to go shopping was the advice given by those wonderful Korean, Chinese and Singapore scientists that you are following. Jeez did not realise they were advocating herd immunity. Evidently you and BoJo are following the same scientists. :D
 
Roadmap being accelerated in Ireland. There will now be four phases instead of five.

Was always going to be an option. And our stats have been excellent recently. So I guess this is good news.

I’d be lying if I said it didn’t make me nervous though. There’s a fine line between six people meeting up in someone’s gaff and a house party.
 
Was always going to be an option. And our stats have been excellent recently. So I guess this is good news.

I’d be lying if I said it didn’t make me nervous though. There’s a fine line between six people meeting up in someone’s gaff and a house party.
4 phases instead of 5 phases won't make a blind bit of difference to the sort of person who'll have a house party. They were already going on when we were in full lockdown.

I'd say most people who were sensible enough to social distance during the lockdown will continue to keep it up as restrictions ease. I'm glad our government are finally putting a bit more faith in our overall populace as opposed to listening to gobsheens posting photos of isolated incidents and claiming we're all too dumb to move out of lockdown.
 
4 phases instead of 5 phases won't make a blind bit of difference to the sort of person who'll have a house party. They were already going on when we were in full lockdown.

I'd say most people who were sensible enough to social distance during the lockdown will continue to keep it up as restrictions ease. I'm glad our government are finally putting a bit more faith in our overall populace as opposed to listening to gobsheens posting photos of isolated incidents and claiming we're all too dumb to move out of lockdown.

Yeah, I agree. I think enough people are sensible for this to be ok. Still nervous though!
 
Yeah, I agree. I think enough people are sensible for this to be ok. Still nervous though!
yeah me too, we're supposed to be getting a puppy at the end of July, going back to work early scuppered all my feckin' plans for being at home to mind it!

oh and y'know covid-19 is dangerous etc.
 
Just hope nothing changes in the meantime to make them scrap this upscaled plan. This is better, obviously, but the pessimistic conservatism of the original plan spoke to me.
 
R level in U.K still between 0.7-0.9. Interesting considering all the mass gatherings on beaches and City centres in last week unless there's a lag on that figure aswell?

It was about 3 in March wasn't it so shows how much difference it can make if you take out attendances at sports games and gigs.

You've got to asume the effects of the mass gatherings this week would only begin to influence numbers as of next week?
 


Link to some of the modelling in R split by region and age. Might have some regional lockdowns by looks of it.
 
The problem coming around the corner is the countries now undergoing major outbreaks. The top 10 by new cases yesterday:

Russia
Mexico
Pakistan
USA
India
Iran
Bangladesh
Brazil
Saudi Arabia
Qatar

All well and good China and the EU having the infrastructure to get this under control and find everybody a hospital bed, but a good chunk of those countries stand no chance of doing either. I dread to think what it will be like in places like Bangladesh.
 
The problem coming around the corner is the countries now undergoing major outbreaks. The top 10 by new cases yesterday:

Russia
Mexico
Pakistan
USA
India
Iran
Bangladesh
Brazil
Saudi Arabia
Qatar

All well and good China and the EU having the infrastructure to get this under control and find everybody a hospital bed, but a good chunk of those countries stand no chance of doing either. I dread to think what it will be like in places like Bangladesh.
Also, I read somewhere that one of the provinces with the highest rate of increase in Iran is hitting 38C/100F highs, which is further bad news.