SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

Cities all over are mandating masks now, so Georgia bans the whole state from making masks mandatory. And on the same day masks became mandatory in Tulsa where Donnie held his ’rally’.

When Oklahoma is outpacing you on policy, you’ve got problems.
 
Organic Potatoes said:
Cities all over are mandating masks now, so Georgia bans the whole state from making masks mandatory. And on the same day masks became mandatory in Tulsa where Donnie held his ’rally’.

When Oklahoma is outpacing you on policy, you’ve got problems.
Click to expand...

Kemp is doubling down on his continuing bad decisions. To allow cities to mandate masks he is "bowing to crazy liberal mayors", admitting his reopening plan was a disaster, and contradicting dear leader. Besides, it took him 2 extra months to learn that the virus can be transmitted from person to person, so he may not have realized that masks work yet.
 
gormless said:
Surely they’re just assuming they haven’t contracted it earlier?
But if true, good thing. Would mean less presymptotic spreading
Click to expand...

They are just about 100% sure because a single person brought it up from Victoria and went to a pub during his journey and gave it to 10+ people who attended that pub at the same time who then passed it on to their contacts. It shows how infectious this is and I'm wondering if the cooler winter weather is a big factor.
 
RedFish said:
There will be a need for several vaccines as one company does t have a chance in hell of supplying all the vaccines needed worldwide. so obviously good news there seems to be good progress us being made on both sides of the pond.
Click to expand...

The Oxford vaccine already expect to be able to produce 2 billion doses by the end of the year with more manufacturing deals expected to be announced soon.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...ntial-vaccine-doses-astrazeneca-says-12000631
 
Wibble said:
The Oxford vaccine already expect to be able to produce 2 billion doses by the end of the year with more manufacturing deals expected to be announced soon.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...ntial-vaccine-doses-astrazeneca-says-12000631
Click to expand...

Thats amazing. Still, its highly unlikely they'll be the sole source. Just doesn't work like that. Multiple vaccines is a good thing and going forward depending on duration of protection conferred, new vaccines will have to be developed.

Edit: these are obviously deals done on the assumption pjase 2and 3 go as planned. Which they should, but you never know. Rushed is a understatement but a necessity clearly.
 
zing said:
Says end of next year in the article?
Click to expand...

Yes - no way they could make 2 billion by the end of this year even if it gets approval in September. I'd guess that 2 billion samples will be boosted significantly with more manufacturing deals so with other vaccines arriving we can hopefully have herd immunity by the end of 2021 in most countries.
 
The top ten countries for cases, according to the John Hopkins University tracker:
  1. US: 3,576,157
  2. Brazil: 2,012,151
  3. India: 1,003,832
  4. Russia: 751,612
  5. Peru: 341,586
  6. South Africa: 324,221
  7. Mexico: 324,041
  8. Chile: 323,698
  9. United Kingdom: 294,116
  10. Iran: 267,061
(From The Guardian)

The UK "wins" for Europe, it appears.
 
Penna said:
The top ten countries for cases, according to the John Hopkins University tracker:
  1. US: 3,576,157
  2. Brazil: 2,012,151
  3. India: 1,003,832
  4. Russia: 751,612
  5. Peru: 341,586
  6. South Africa: 324,221
  7. Mexico: 324,041
  8. Chile: 323,698
  9. United Kingdom: 294,116
  10. Iran: 267,061
(From The Guardian)

The UK "wins" for Europe, it appears.
Click to expand...

I wonder where the difference is coming from, the worldometers data has Spain with far more cases for some reason:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Either way, our response has been beyond shambolic. Whichever way you look at it, the surrounding countries on that list are not exactly paragons of good governance.
 
Wibble said:
They are just about 100% sure because a single person brought it up from Victoria and went to a pub during his journey and gave it to 10+ people who attended that pub at the same time who then passed it on to their contacts. It shows how infectious this is and I'm wondering if the cooler winter weather is a big factor.
Click to expand...
It is a lot warmer now in Melbourne than it is in April in the Nordic countries. And Finland's hospitalisation numbers started to decline already in the beginning of April, so I wouldn't call it big factor. But depends on the definition of "big" in this case.
 
New cases on the rise in Belgium.

Tweeted by a virologist:

Monday 13/7 there were 216 new cases.
As a reminder, on March 15, we had 214 new cases. March 17 was the start of the lockdown.
 
africanspur said:
I wonder where the difference is coming from, the worldometers data has Spain with far more cases for some reason:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Either way, our response has been beyond shambolic. Whichever way you look at it, the surrounding countries on that list are not exactly paragons of good governance.
Click to expand...

I don't trust worldometers for Spain. If you check their daily figures against the source document they cite (official government daily document), they never tally any more and haven't for months. Spain's just shy of 260k cases, I think.

I think worldometers are counting cases more than once for us, maybe because of the cack handed way we're announcing the numbers now.
 
africanspur said:
I wonder where the difference is coming from, the worldometers data has Spain with far more cases for some reason:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Either way, our response has been beyond shambolic. Whichever way you look at it, the surrounding countries on that list are not exactly paragons of good governance.
Click to expand...
That was my thought, too. Putting the USA to one side because it's run by a crazy man, it's a disgrace for the UK to be in that list. The Government had plenty of warning from Italy and Spain.
 
Penna said:
The top ten countries for cases, according to the John Hopkins University tracker:
  1. US: 3,576,157
  2. Brazil: 2,012,151
  3. India: 1,003,832
  4. Russia: 751,612
  5. Peru: 341,586
  6. South Africa: 324,221
  7. Mexico: 324,041
  8. Chile: 323,698
  9. United Kingdom: 294,116
  10. Iran: 267,061
(From The Guardian)

The UK "wins" for Europe, it appears.
Click to expand...
Come on everyone, the team is falling down the table! Get out and drink more coffee, get your hair done, get to the pub and your gym.
 
Penna said:
That was my thought, too. Putting the USA to one side because it's run by a crazy man, it's a disgrace for the UK to be in that list. The Government had plenty of warning from Italy and Spain.
Click to expand...

Yep, for sure.

I know it might be a slightly over the top response but literally every day I see Johnson or Patel or Hancock or Gove or Raab or any of those twats, I genuinely feel sick to my stomach. Not just at their initial response but everything since then, their rhetoric, the other things they've done in the meantime, Brexit, the way I'm sure an 'independent panel' will scapegoat others later on.
 
Drawfull said:
I don't trust worldometers for Spain. If you check their daily figures against the source document they cite (official government daily document), they never tally any more and haven't for months. Spain's just shy of 260k cases, I think.

I think worldometers are counting cases more than once for us, maybe because of the cack handed way we're announcing the numbers now.
Click to expand...

That's a shame, it kind of throws off any trust I have in the rest of the site's figures for Covid then.
 
onemanarmy said:
New cases on the rise in Belgium.

Tweeted by a virologist:

Monday 13/7 there were 216 new cases.
As a reminder, on March 15, we had 214 new cases. March 17 was the start of the lockdown.
Click to expand...
Couldn't a part of that in Belgium and other similar countries be due to the fact that they are testing far high numbers per week, now though?
 
africanspur said:
That's a shame, it kind of throws off any trust I have in the rest of the site's figures for Covid then.
Click to expand...

I only really look at Spain UK and US, and the latter two seem to match up. As I said, Spain's numbers are released in a weird way nowadays - e.g., deaths are 'from the last 7 days', so technically deaths reported today could have occurred 6 days ago, with none actually happening in the last 24 hours.

I think we have issues with cases too: Yesterday, there were 500 odd positive PCR tests, mostly in and around Barcelona, but Worldometers uses the 1200 figure. Yet that figure includes people who are NOT ill, but have antibodies in their system from having had the illness in the past. There is confusion within municiplalities as to whether these people have already been counted as positives months ago or not.

I'm getting confused writing it to be honest.
 
Drawfull said:
I only really look at Spain UK and US, and the latter two seem to match up. As I said, Spain's numbers are released in a weird way nowadays - e.g., deaths are 'from the last 7 days', so technically deaths reported today could have occurred 6 days ago, with none actually happening in the last 24 hours.

I think we have issues with cases too: Yesterday, there were 500 odd positive PCR tests, mostly in and around Barcelona, but Worldometers uses the 1200 figure. Yet that figure includes people who are NOT ill, but have antibodies in their system from having had the illness in the past. There is confusion within municiplalities as to whether these people have already been counted as positives months ago or not.

I'm getting confused writing it to be honest.
Click to expand...

There is also a problem with what each countries are reporting, some countries are still only reporting hospital deaths or France for example only reports PCR tests and not rapid tests. So we can't really use Worldometers to make comparisons.
 
Dave_MUFC said:
Think that's the end of it for my comfy WFH set up, goodbye to feeling a lot more happier mentally, energetic, not wasting the whole weekend doing chores etc...
Click to expand...

Welcome back to day to day drudgery and hell like the rest of us.
 
He says football stadia could be back open to fans in October yet still no mention of when you can hug a relative/friend? Despite seemingly most ignoring that rule anyway now.
 
RonaldoVII said:
He says football stadia could be back open to fans in October yet still no mention of when you can hug a relative/friend? Despite seemingly most ignoring that rule anyway now.
Click to expand...

So drunkenly hugging a stranger ok.

Hugging grandma not so much.

Sound about right.
 
RonaldoVII said:
He says football stadia could be back open to fans in October yet still no mention of when you can hug a relative/friend? Despite seemingly most ignoring that rule anyway now.
Click to expand...

I genuinely think BoJo and friends have ignored that rule for so long they genuinely forgot they made it.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.