Unsure but it felt like LVG had over 10 the one season.
Premier League Gameweek 3
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
So erm, is everyone gonna start cry wanking about Leicester getting 3 pens today, or is it just when United get one?
Just realised Son has picked up an injury and will miss the game against us next week. Terrible news for the lad but good news for us.
Also a fair distance between where the foul happened to where the free kick was taken
Hahahaha. Berties.
Just been on Twitter. Did Jose actually say this?
I think a few sports economists have run the numbers on home advantage and come to the conclusion it was almost entirely down to fans influencing the referees in small ways that tipped the balance. Take that away there wasn't much to home advantage.
Is there a link to the postmatch Jose video?
Sounds hilarious.
Sounds hilarious.
Anyone else got some weird sound coming out their TV?
I'm a scientist but not an expert on this subject by any means. In short, though, yes. There's definitely a significant (in the strict statistical sense) interaction in that crowds influence refs' decisions in their favour. I'm not sure exactly how big the effect is but it's "big enough".
Now you've piqued my interest too because I'm not sure if or how researchers control for the effect of the ref on mediating the relationship between crowd and results in general. It could be a significant confound. I'm probably gonna go research some more.
Bit harsh on the commentators.
Nah I just broke wind
Hahaha seriously though. Its sending me bonkers!
Kek
Why the Feck are you watching West Ham?
6 of 24 home games won seems to suggest there‘s potentially a new dynamic going on though.
you know the answer already. Leicester's 2-5 win had nothing to do with the three penalties whereas when United win by 4 goals, its everything to do with the one penalty.
Nothing else on. That said, im tempted to tune in to family fortunes at 8.
It's a very small sample size compared to what they're used to dealing with but, as you say, this is also a whole new paradigm: long consecutive stretches of elite games being played with no crowds whatsoever. You'd have to control for general start-of-season unpredictability, among other factors, but I agree that it's not nothing.
It'd certainly be worth conducting more research on the post-CV games, and I'm sure that will be done in due course. Probably as soon as the crowds are back to normal capacity to maximise the sample size of games (the intermediate phases may be useful in themselves if they can show e.g. a linear scaling of effect size with crowd size).
Michail Antonio is a player reborn. Always a handful up front and is keeping £40m Haller on the bench.
Pretty sure that similar happened in Germany when the started their season again after the first lockdown.
The 'heritage' rinse and repeat
One Man And His Dog is on...better than the cockney cnuts
Yeah, I remember some news articles about that. As I say, I think you're right that there's something there. I'm looking forward to a rigorous academic analysis so we can hopefully learn something new.
I think it's quite hard for football fans to accept that they may actually have very little effect on the outcome of matches, even when they sing their hearts out in the stands. I hope there's a larger effect size discovered but we'll see.
Of the 24 games it looks like away teams were generally the better teams on paper, so the starting assumption would be it's those two established factors working together: better teams generally win, home or away, and refs tip the balance in tight games in favour of the home team. It's 3 rounds of a random fixture list after all. The general premise underlying the analysis should remain the same, in that there's little evidence that home teams "play better" at home, it's just the small margins of official decisions that make it seem that way. In a game like footy a game can flip on a couple of marginal decisions. You can find all kinds of statistical quirks from small sample sizes too, e.g. just two draws seems unusual at this stage. Then regression to the mean starts to play a role.
Haha family fortunes it is.
I quite like Soucek, he's a destroyer who's quite handy on the ball and able to be a constant threat in the box. Felliani vibes.
2-0 West Ham
Wolves another side suffering
Wolves another side suffering
You pay that sort of money for a supposed wonderkid, I'd want him to start if I was Wolves fan.
Yeah, it's sad but true.
3-0
Moyes won't be allowed back into the stadium on a match-day ever again on this evidence 
All these sides falling
It’s going to be one of those surprise seasons again isn’t it?
I am enjoyin this
Wolves long season from last season and no proper pre-season looks to be catching up with them. Lost their shape and organisation a bit.
It’s going to be one of those surprise seasons again isn’t it?
Setup for your lads to win it. Good transfer window, no Europe and got the rest before the start of the season to make a strong start. It would be kind of poetic for Everton to take the title off Liverpool too. If there’s a surprise winner Everton are a good shout.
Watching Wolves in the last few games is simliar to Man United. Much better than what they are showing but lack of fitness and sharpness after no real pre-season.
I have to admit that they have that Ranieri Leicester aura. At the start of PL. Who knows how far it will take them.